Older cubers discussions

[Jason Green]

There are more cubers in the US than in Spain, so it's probably that there are like 5 fast unknown oldies there

That's what I was thinking. Maybe if I title my video that and put a link to the list it will draw them out to get added to the list.

 

[Selkie]

@muchacho , @MarcelP , @mark49152 - Yes indeed Roux's comp PB average.

Been doing a lot of 3x3 today. Don't appear to have lost much time Sub 15.5 Ao250. Trying to get a sub 14.5 Ao12 on film but the solves are a little camera shy today

@Jason Green - Yeah great unboxing and definitely includes your lads in future ones, so much different than the norm and better for it

 

[pipkiksass]

Ok, so when I came back to cubing I quickly realised I'd forgotten my J(a) PLL alg. A quick look on the wiki and I found the one that most folk use, although my old one was RUD only, as I hate L turns, they're very awkward for me.

Anyway, given what has been said on this thread recently about getting good algs from the start, I thought I'd try everything on the wiki, and found this absolute gem of an alg. You can all thank me later!

(y) R2 (U' D) R2' U' R2 U R2' D' R2 U R2'


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[Logiqx]

Thank you, be excited to see that! I've been debating whether to title my YouTube video fastest US over 40 average. I probably won't as I'm afraid there are some oldies not in our list. Thoughts?

Just over 60,000 people have competed at 3x3 so if we assume that 2% of them are oldies that's 1,200 people.

2% is a crude guess based on the number of 3x3 competitors in the UK (628) and saying that ~12 of them are over 40. The actual percentage is likely to be higher imo.

There are only 47 people on the current list so I am sure that over 95% of the oldies are missing.

Edit: Rough gauge of the percentage of over-40's on this forum - #145

 

[Logiqx]

@Jason Green - "sub-20 @ sup-40"

 

[mark49152]

(y) R2 (U' D) R2' U' R2 U R2' D' R2 U R2'

D' R U' R U R' D R D' R' U' R2 D R2

All U/D moves with left hand. RUD FTW!

 

[moralsh]

I'm guessing Javier Tirado is most probably over 40. Maybe @moralsh knows?

https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/p.php?i=2009TIRA01

He is quite fast at clock (Spanish NR holder, and WR some years ago).

Yeah, Javier is faster than me at almost everything and he was also the seventh in the world to join the platinium club (all events and averages plus WR, CR and championship podiums) he's almost 2 years my senior so he qualifies.

Luis Iáñez (cubecomps and WCA board) also has faster 3x single and average and is good at Pyra, FM and SQ1, then we have Javier Cabezuelo (world class at FM) and Jesús Masanet (good at clock), there's a bunch of other oldies around who go to comps but they're not that into it. But the ones I've mentioned still get some podiums.

Edit: Looking at our medal ranking (http://www.asociacionrubik.es/medallero) I have missed Diego Millán Otón who got a bunch of podiums in blind events although I haven't seen him around for a couple of years. And Ernesto Fernández Regueira, who is already in the list.

 

[muchacho]

In your country how many Nemesis (cubers that are better than you in every official event) do you have?
https://whispering-headland-44417.herokuapp.com/

In my case, 62... 971 in Europe and 2707 in the World (I expected those numbers to be much higher).

Spoiler

Web tool found here:
http://www.rubikaz.com/foro/viewtopic.php?p=200677#p200677

 

[Selkie]

In your country how many Nemesis (cubers that are better than you in every official event) do you have?
https://whispering-headland-44417.herokuapp.com/

In my case, 62... 971 in Europe and 2707 in the World (I expected those numbers to be much higher).

Spoiler

Web tool found here:
http://www.rubikaz.com/foro/viewtopic.php?p=200677#p200677

Really thought there would be more than that to be fair.

Really fun site I have to say

11 Country, 102 Continent, 228 World

 

[pglewis]

Ok, so when I came back to cubing I quickly realised I'd forgotten my J(a) PLL alg. A quick look on the wiki and I found the one that most folk use, although my old one was RUD only, as I hate L turns, they're very awkward for me.

Anyway, given what has been said on this thread recently about getting good algs from the start, I thought I'd try everything on the wiki, and found this absolute gem of an alg. You can all thank me later!

(y) R2 (U' D) R2' U' R2 U R2' D' R2 U R2'

D' R U' R U R' D R D' R' U' R2 D R2

All U/D moves with left hand. RUD FTW!

I'll throw this hat in the ring: (y) R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L

 

[mafergut]

Nice discussion about hidden oldies that do not show up on the over 40 stats, nemesis and all that. I'm sorry that I still cannot be on that list due to not having ever competed. Will try to fix that next year.

By the way, 2nd best 3x3 Ao5 ever and 2nd sub-16 too:

avg of 5: 15.75
1. (15.26) D2 B' L2 D2 F' L2 F' U F U' L2 B2 D' F D R' F
2. (20.98) R2 B' R2 B' F2 R2 B' D2 F U2 F R' F L' U' L B' R2 B2 R2 D
3. 15.85 L D2 B' L B' R F B U' R2 D F2 R2 U F2 U F2 D' R
4. 15.96 U2 B2 U L2 F2 U' L2 R2 U B2 D2 B' L' R' U' F R' B' L2 F' U'
5. 15.41 F' R2 D2 L' D' L2 B' D' R U2 B2 L' F2 L' U2 D2 B2 U2 L D

 

[One Wheel]

In your country how many Nemesis (cubers that are better than you in every official event) do you have?
https://whispering-headland-44417.herokuapp.com/

In my case, 62... 971 in Europe and 2707 in the World (I expected those numbers to be much higher).

Spoiler

Web tool found here:
http://www.rubikaz.com/foro/viewtopic.php?p=200677#p200677

That looks really interesting, but when I put in my WCA ID it says "Person with WCA id 2016BAIR04 not found!" and the ID is a working link to my WCA profile.

 

[muchacho]

Probably the tool has not been updated recently.

 

[mark49152]

In your country how many Nemesis (cubers that are better than you in every official event) do you have?
https://whispering-headland-44417.herokuapp.com/

That's cool. Four national - the guys who are above me in the UK BLD rankings. 41 continental, and when I try world, the app crashes

Edit: 76 world. Thought it would be more. That just shows how strong Europe is at BLD.

 

[pglewis]

That looks really interesting, but when I put in my WCA ID it says "Person with WCA id 2016BAIR04 not found!" and the ID is a working link to my WCA profile.

Same here, they must be using a snap-shot of the data.

 

[moralsh]

That's seriously outdated, I remember when Cisco did it some months ago, I´ll try to either tell him to update or do something similar.

I had 0 National nemesis (big blind helps a lot) , about 15 european and about 40 world last time I checked.

 

[Jason Green]

Is that better than you in every event you do I guess?

 

[muchacho]

Yes.

 

[pipkiksass]

Different OLL subsets have different levels of benefit. Definitely the top third are a no-brainer and can save lots of time. The next third are worthwhile IMHO. The bottom third are less worthwhile as the algs are typically worse yet they have fast 2-look solutions that pretty much become a single alg once you get used to them anyway.

I've been using the same logic as I did with PLL some 3 years ago - in my average yesterday I had loads of L shape OLLs that I didn't know, and I find the biggest incentive to learning something new is not knowing it screwing up your averages!!! I now know all 6 small L's, up from 2 yesterday. Turns out they're really nice - and I also remembered one of the dot cases I thought I'd forgotten. Used @Logiqx alg page again, tyvm!

D' R U' R U R' D R D' R' U' R2 D R2

All U/D moves with left hand. RUD FTW!

Another nice RUD alg. This may well be what I used to use. I do all the U/Ds with my left as well, but I like the (U' D) at the start, which is simultaneous and so feels like you're saving time!

I'll throw this hat in the ring: (y) R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L

That's the alg I'd been using for the past fortnight. It's nice if you are capable of doing L turns, but I'm L-phobic and for me an L turn in an alg is like a slap in the face! I feel like I'm regripping before and after, its horrible - my awkward, clumsy hands just fail me.

RUD FTW indeed! If it weren't for ease of learning OLL mirrors, I'd probably never use L turns in LL.

 

[pipkiksass]

P.S. I have infinity nemeses.