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I totally forgot that was today, nicely done @Jason Green! Just a sea of orange times, every time you go out it's a PR.
So far I've been spoiled like that for sure! I was right in what I said the strength of the field keeps getting better too. Now it's taking 16 seconds for round two, I feel like if I can get there some day it'll take 12. :)
 
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I was right in what I said the strength of the field keeps getting better too. Note it's talking 16 seconds for round two, I feel like if I can get there some day it'll take 12. :)
The problem is that they only put through 24/73 to the second round. That's a small second round. I would say the distribution of times was fairly typical. In the comps I've been to, the second round threshold has varied between high 20s when they've put through the maximum 75% down to low 20s when they've put through about half. Those would have held for Dallas Fall 2016 too.
 
New 3x3 Mo100 PB, 20.303, it was 20.742 from 5 weeks ago.

Also 4x4 Ao5 PB: 1:54.512, 5 months old PB (4 months break) was 1:56.246.

Are there now better 4x4 cubes than the Guansu? I think I'll try to have everything in stickerless.
Nice improvement. If you want a nice stickerless 4x4 I'd recommend the CB G4. The Yuxin Blue is also good they say but will take some break in, lubing and tensioning, maybe even spring swap, whereas the G4 will only require break in. Both are smaller (60mm) than the Guansu, which for me is a plus. If you want a regular size one (62mm) the KungFu CangFeng can be an option.
 
Anyone fool around with VHF2L? I guess the general consensus is the extra time for the last pair isn't worth it but some of the shorter algs seem well worth knowing. Two of the first three cases I applied it to ended in an OLL skip. I know that was crazy luck but a 1/72 chance still ain't bad plus you're guaranteed a COLL case regardless, if I'm not mistaken.
 
Anyone fool around with VHF2L? I guess the general consensus is the extra time for the last pair isn't worth it but some of the shorter algs seem well worth knowing. Two of the first three cases I applied it to ended in an OLL skip. I know that was crazy luck but a 1/72 chance still ain't bad plus you're guaranteed a COLL case regardless, if I'm not mistaken.
I used to use VHLS in practice all the time. I only use the easy cases some of the time now, and the only split pair case I use is to avoid a dot OLL. I think they're advantageous in OH and big cubes more than 2H. However, very useful for practicing COLL.
 
I used to use VHLS in practice all the time. I only use the easy cases some of the time now, and the only split pair case I use is to avoid a dot OLL. I think they're advantageous in OH and big cubes more than 2H. However, very useful for practicing COLL.

One other thought is it seems plausible that one could influence the easier cases with some edge control in the first three slots, again at the expense of a little slower insertion. As green as I am and going through F2L "boot camp" right now I figure it's worth playing with for the F2L tricks alone. Some insertion techniques there that I've never considered.
 
Definitely a can do. Feliks even has a video on that on his YouTube.
One other thought is it seems plausible that one could influence the easier cases with some edge control in the first three slots, again at the expense of a little slower insertion. As green as I am and going through F2L "boot camp" right now I figure it's worth playing with for the F2L tricks alone. Some insertion techniques there that I've never considered.
 
Anyone fool around with VHF2L?
I have used it in the past, but I don't think it's any better than some basic edge control. My problem with it was that I solve to all four slots and trying to mirror VHLS was just awkward, especially to back slots. Except for the very simplest cases of course, which are really only edge control techniques anyway.
 
I have used it in the past, but I don't think it's any better than some basic edge control. My problem with it was that I solve to all four slots and trying to mirror VHLS was just awkward, especially to back slots. Except for the very simplest cases of course, which are really only edge control techniques anyway.

@pglewis I too once fooled around with VHLS. There were a couple of really useful cases which I occasionally used when solving, but I've totally forgotten! These days I use a little intuitive edge control (i.e. sledgehammer/hedgeslammer) to avoid dot OLLs. As Mark says, these are also easier to flip/mirror.

Once I've finished full OLL I may invest some time in some of the simpler Winter Variation cases or Magic Wondeful. Always nice to skip an OLL, and even better when you know it's going to happen!
 
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