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[MarcelP]

Okay, I have set my mind on getting faster on 3x3. I have been stuck at 19 secs for almost two years. I have been getting comments by younger ones on my cube video's that I need to turn faster. LOL I always say, if I turn faster than I can not lookahead. Well one responded the other day that if I do not increase my speed, I will not learn to look ahead faster... That made me think. So for a while I have been practicing at turning faster. And today I had a streak of 23 solves that where all sub 20. That has never ever happened to me before. Even in my most fastest Ao12 where some solves sup 20.

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I cut a few of.. but you get the idea:
10. 19.08 D' L' D R F R' F' R' U L2 D B2 D R2 B2 R2 B2 D B2 F'
11. 18.03 F2 D L2 D R2 D U2 B2 R2 D2 L2 R' D' L2 R2 B L B F' U2 B2
12. 15.41 F' R2 D2 B R2 B' D2 F2 L2 F2 R2 D F2 L D2 U' F D2 U' R' B2
13. 17.57 F' L2 F2 U' R2 F2 U' L2 F2 D B2 U2 F' R' D' B R F2 R' B U'
14. 17.81 U2 B L U R2 B U R D2 F2 B2 U B2 D2 F2 U B2 R2 B2
15. 18.10 F2 U2 R2 U' R2 B2 U' L2 D F R B' F' D2 U2 R' D U'
16. 18.37 R B2 R F2 L D2 F2 R' F D F R B D' F2 U B L'
17. 19.71 R D2 B2 D2 F2 L' D2 B2 L2 B2 R' D R2 U' F' U R' U B R'
18. 19.86 F2 R L2 F' U B D' B' D' R' F2 U2 F2 D2 R2 L' D2 L' F2 U2
19. 18.45 F' D' F2 R2 B2 R2 D' B2 R2 D' U' B2 R' B L F' D' R' B' U' R2
20. 17.25 L' U B2 U' L' F D' B U2 L' D2 F2 D2 B2 L2 F2 L' U2 R2 F
21. 18.95 U2 B' U R' F L2 F R F L2 D2 L2 D' B2 D2 R2 D R2 U' R2
22. 18.58 F B R F' U B2 D L' F' D' B2 R2 F2 U L2 D' F2 U2 D R2
23. 19.76 D B' U2 F D2 L2 D2 R2 F D2 F U2 D L2 B2 L' B R F R2 F2

Could have been better in frame unfortunatly, and Youtube had a claim on audio content so I removed sound.

Cube: Valk3 (the Ao100 was 18.20 which is damn close to my PB so I guess this cube is allright. I only wish I had done this average with my main ShengShou)

 

[h2f]

Okay, I have set my mind on getting faster on 3x3. I have been stuck at 19 secs for almost two years. I have been getting comments by younger ones on my cube video's that I need to turn faster. LOL I always say, if I turn faster than I can not lookahead. Well one responded the other day that if I do not increase my speed, I will not learn to look ahead faster... That made me think. So for a while I have been practicing at turning faster. And today I had a streak of 23 solves that where all sub 20. That has never ever happened to me before. Even in my most fastest Ao12 where some solves sup 20.

I've broke sub20 when youngster start keep saying me - what about your tps? Why it's so low? And one said: dont matter fluidyity just keep pushing and lookahead will come naturally. And it worked as I mentioned earlier. For me it means: always question the way you practice.

I'm back to 4bld and 5bld. Still no success but I'm closer to it. In 4bld I was off byt 2 twisted corners and in 5bld by few wings. I really like big blindes - they make me relaxed.

 

[mafergut]

Okay, I have set my mind on getting faster on 3x3. I have been stuck at 19 secs for almost two years. I have been getting comments by younger ones on my cube video's that I need to turn faster. LOL I always say, if I turn faster than I can not lookahead. Well one responded the other day that if I do not increase my speed, I will not learn to look ahead faster... That made me think. So for a while I have been practicing at turning faster. And today I had a streak of 23 solves that where all sub 20. That has never ever happened to me before. Even in my most fastest Ao12 where some solves sup 20.

Cube: Valk3 (the Ao100 was 18.20 which is damn close to my PB so I guess this cube is allright. I only wish I had done this average with my main ShengShou)

When I get my PB or close to PB Ao100 (I'm more like high 18s so a bit slower than you) it's always when I can turn a bit faster AND maintain my lookahead. But that does not happen always, sadly. Many times I increase my TPS a bit but lose lookahead, ending up with worse times. But when you're on that sweet spot... well, solves simply flow and that's gratifying.

It seems like you'll convince me to buy the FangYuan if you keep talking marvels of it I have ordered a Big Sail 6.8cm just for fun (it was so cheap and with free shipping so I couldn't resist).

 

[mark49152]

@MarcelP : Nice average. All white and yellow crosses. Have you abandoned full CN?

 

[muchacho]

3x3 Ao5 PB: 17.005 (old was 18.105 from 1 month ago)

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26757 14-sep-2016 18:42:57 00:17.320 R2 U' B2 U F2 L2 U R2 B2 D' U' B' U' R L2 F' R U' L' F L2 D'
26756 14-sep-2016 18:42:11 00:23.023 B2 R2 D2 B2 R2 D' L2 B2 R2 L2 D F' R' L2 D2 U F D2 R2 B' R2 U2
26755 14-sep-2016 18:41:29 00:16.512 L2 B2 D2 R2 D' L2 F2 R2 D' B2 U2 L B U2 R' D U B' F2 R2 F' R'
26754 14-sep-2016 18:40:49 00:16.087 B2 L2 F2 D2 B2 L2 U B2 F2 U' R2 B' U2 R' F L B' D' F' D2 F2
26753 14-sep-2016 18:40:10 00:17.184 R2 D2 R2 D' R2 U L2 D' B2 U' B F2 D' R B2 R F' U F' D2

 

[mafergut]

3x3 Ao5 PB: 17.005 (old was 18.105 from 1 month ago)

Wow! that's improvement!!! Congrats.

 

[muchacho]

Thanks, it was mainly luck, I'm not feeling any improvement in last weeks, probably I won't get a sub-21 Mo100 before the end of this month... my goal (https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/goals-thread.9117/page-133#post-1177474) for that was sub-20 :rolleyes:

 

[mafergut]

Thanks, it was mainly luck, I'm not feeling any improvement in last weeks, probably I won't get a sub-21 Mo100 before the end of this month... my goal (https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/threads/goals-thread.9117/page-133#post-1177474) for that was sub-20 :rolleyes:

Talking about unfulfilled goals... an excerpt from my Goals post (linked in my signature) also for end of September:
3x3: Get globally sub-20 Full CN, Nope. sub-18 Ao50 white/yellow DCN. Nope.
4x4: [...] sub 1min single: Nope, sub 1:10 Ao5: Nope

 

[Jason Green]

Well one responded the other day that if I do not increase my speed, I will not learn to look ahead faster... That made me think.

I guess that's how I've always felt, that's why it's hard for me to practice slow, I just want to get better at recognizing at my fastest TPS. I think for whatever combination of TPS and lookahead you currently have, turning slower will probably be more consistent results. But as you said, you have to push it to improve your look ahead at higher speeds.

There is going to be a comp near here on 10/22, the nearest one I've been to yet! I just happened to check the site today and saw it, and registration opened this evening. It's almost full already so I'm glad I did not miss it. Cubingusa.com has an option to get notifications of new events, but I never get any. Does anyone in the US use that?

 

[newtonbase]

Due to pushing memo speed I'm on a huge 3BLD DNF streak. It's a bit demoralising but I'm determined that my next success will be a PB (although I can't actually remember my exact PB). But this morning I saw 2 cubes together so had a sneaky MBLD attempt and got it easily. My 2nd success from 5 attempts.

 

[mark49152]

Due to pushing memo speed I'm on a huge 3BLD DNF streak. It's a bit demoralising but I'm determined that my next success will be a PB (although I can't actually remember my exact PB). But this morning I saw 2 cubes together so had a sneaky MBLD attempt and got it easily. My 2nd success from 5 attempts.

Nice one Mark. I can't remember who gave me the advice, but if your success rate is not low, you're not practising memo aggressively enough.

 

[newtonbase]

Nice one Mark. I can't remember who gave me the advice, but if your success rate is not low, you're not practising memo aggressively enough.

Yes, it's been said here and elsewhere that 50% is a good success rate for practice. I have been concentrating on letter pairs and some edge comms recently so needed some timed practice ahead of Guildford.

 

[MarcelP]

@MarcelP : Nice average. All white and yellow crosses. Have you abandoned full CN?

No, I do practice CN when I do practice without timer. Slow In High TPS solves I need to pick white or yellow because I have yellow/white filter in my brain that recognises edge pieces without even having seen a corner. In other colors I do not have that filter and then I need to find corners first. It does not differ a lot but I feel more confident at yellow/white at higher TPS.

 

[One Wheel]

Cubingusa.com has an option to get notifications of new events, but I never get any. Does anyone in the US use that?

I checked the box to get notifications of any comp within 250 miles and never got a notification of a comp about 90 miles away. I just figure that doesn't work, and check WCA a couple times a week.

Unrelated, but last night I added to my list of near-second-successes for blind. I've been off by an A-perm before, this time it was just two flipped edges.

 

[newtonbase]

this time it was just two flipped edges.

Bane of my cubing life. Did you forget to do them or not spot them?

 

[One Wheel]

Bane of my cubing life. Did you forget to do them or not spot them?

Not entirely sure. My best guess is that I memorized the wrong sticker on the right piece. If I recall correctly one of the two was my buffer, so I might have just forgotten to execute it, too.

 

[newtonbase]

Not entirely sure. My best guess is that I memorized the wrong sticker on the right piece. If I recall correctly one of the two was my buffer, so I might have just forgotten to execute it, too.

Forgetting to execute was my favourite trick.

Got a timed 3BLD success and I think it was a PB. Memo was sub 50s but then I executed an edge out of order and had to go back followed by a recall pause on the last corner pair. Am pleased with it.

 

[gateway cuber]

Okay, I have set my mind on getting faster on 3x3. I have been stuck at 19 secs for almost two years. I have been getting comments by younger ones on my cube video's that I need to turn faster. LOL I always say, if I turn faster than I can not lookahead. Well one responded the other day that if I do not increase my speed, I will not learn to look ahead faster... That made me think. So for a while I have been practicing at turning faster. And today I had a streak of 23 solves that where all sub 20. That has never ever happened to me before. Even in my most fastest Ao12 where some solves sup 20.

OK, I realize I'm a younger cuber so I don't belong here. but after watching your video, I can say the kid who told you that was right but I still noticed little like 0.4 sec pauses between pairs, which isn't bad. But to get sub 15 you have to eliminate those. also all those other kids were also right about tps, but don't worry about tps during F2L try to execute OLL and PLL as fast as you can. So some practice drills to try and eliminate those small, small pauses and to increase tps during LL include...

1. solve super slowly and solve without any pauses whatsoever and once you can solve at a certain speed without pauses, bump it up a notch then another notch and another notch. but be sure you still do your routine Ao50s to Ao100s. this drill should drastically improve you lookahead (which isn't bad, but when you cut out all thos 0.4 pauses, you're looking at a 17 sec avg versus a 19 sec avg.)

2. Drill you OLLs and PLLs, so drill all you PLLs all the time (especially the more difficult to execute ones such as V-perm, N-Perm, G-Perm, etc) and with OLL I don't think you need to drill easy ones like sune but drill all of your least favorite to execute. I found that when I was struggling for sub-15 that some of my OLLs took up to 3 secs! And once I got those times down It was easy to get sub-15.

Hope This Helped!

 

[One Wheel]

As I think back I might have forgotten to memorize that piece at all. I memorized letter pairs for most of the edges, and at the end of memo I realized that I had two edges in place but flipped, so rather than try memorizing more letters I just visually remembered which two edges were flipped. I wasn't paying attention to the orientation of my buffer, so the other flipped edge probably started that way and I mistook a finger on the piece to hold the cube for a finger to note a solved piece.

 

[mark49152]

Memo was sub 50s

Nice one, that's a huge improvement...