Older cubers discussions

[MarcelP]

I think about Valk or Weilong GTS. Any comparison? Marcel?

Well, my current main is a $7 cube

(unboxing). I also have the Valk3. I think Valk3 is probably the best performing cube out there. It has a very smooth feeling, and cuts everything. It is the size that does not fit my hands (for now). So now I stay with the $7 cube LOL. The ShengShou is very forgiving, turns very light and has exact same size as GAN 356. Perfect for me. I see now that all the cubes that come out are more and more becomming equally good. All just a matter of personal preferences.

 

[h2f]

Well, my current main is a $7 cube

(unboxing). I also have the Valk3. I think Valk3 is probably the best performing cube out there. It has a very smooth feeling, and cuts everything. It is the size that does not fit my hands (for now). So now I stay with the $7 cube LOL. The ShengShou is very forgiving, turns very light and has exact same size as GAN 356. Perfect for me. I see now that all the cubes that come out are more and more becomming equally good. All just a matter of personal preferences.

I saw you wrote it on facebook and I thought I've misred it. Ok. I'll follow your advice and but both - SS and Thv1.

 

[mark49152]

I have had the same main for two years, AoLong v2. Before that, Zhanchi and ShuangRen v2 for a year each. Does anyone else here stick with their mains for that long?

 

[Selkie]

I have had the same main for two years, AoLong v2. Before that, Zhanchi and ShuangRen v2 for a year each. Does anyone else here stick with their mains for that long?

The Lubix Zhanchi was my main for about 3 years mate being replaced with the Weilong I think and I have had about 5 different mains since then.

 

[MarcelP]

I have had the same main for two years, AoLong v2. Before that, Zhanchi and ShuangRen v2 for a year each. Does anyone else here stick with their mains for that long?

I think my longest was Gan 356 for more than a year. Right now I go from one new cube to the next. No practicing a lot does not help in sticking with a great cube. LOL. What is your current main?

 

[JohnnyReggae]

Welcome to all new oldies!

I also learned PLL about 2 months ago and have been looking a bit into OLL lately. My impression is that it is totally worth it. Many of the algs are short, very easy to learn and fast to execute. In fact, with 2-look OLL you would quite often use the first step to set up a case that requires a lot more moves than the OLL would have required with 1 look.

I would recommend spending the time to learn full OLL. In truth it's not that hard and shouldn't take to long. I started off with cases that I started to recognise often, but then I started grouping them in shapes which worked out quite well. A lot of the same shapes can be done with mirror algs and lefty versions of the righty algs which means that you don't need to learn a lot of different algs. In all it probably took me around 4 months to learn full OLL and I am so glad that I did because being able to 2 Look the last layers really does help bring your times down.

 

[h2f]

I have had the same main for two years, AoLong v2. Before that, Zhanchi and ShuangRen v2 for a year each. Does anyone else here stick with their mains for that long?

I used aolong v1 for almost a year and half. And in 3bld for 2 years.

 

[mark49152]

What is your current main?

Still the AoLong v2. I restickered it recently with Cubicle Moyu shades as the old stickers were chipped and the adhesive had gone off. I washed the pieces to get the glue off, and now it feels different.

I don't buy many new 3x3s any more. It got too expensive and I only use them a few times. No Valk, no XMan, no Thunderclap v2, no GTS, no Air. The last new 3x3 I got was YueXiao.

 

[h2f]

Look at this scramble: F2 D2 B2 L2 R D2 L' U2 R' U2 L' F' D B2 U B U2 B' F L' R'
I got PLL skip in 16.04 solve.

I'm trying to do as many 3x3 as I can in one day. I had a very busy week and today I'm home. Finally I got 18.98 ao50 in 104th solve.

 

[mark49152]

Look at this scramble: F2 D2 B2 L2 R D2 L' U2 R' U2 L' F' D B2 U B U2 B' F L' R'
I got PLL skip in 16.04 solve.

Interesting cross, but after that I had no free pairs. Ended in U perm. Didn't time it.

 

[h2f]

Interesting cross, but after that I had no free pairs. Ended in U perm. Didn't time it.

In the second attempt I also had Uperm.

 

[mafergut]

Wow! So many pages since I last posted anything. Replying to the last discussion items. I also have been jumping from cube to cube lately but I still can't get better times with any of them than with two of my oldest mains, the YJ Sulong and Chilong, so I end up going back to them once in a while. From the latest cubes the one that I stick to the most is the Yuexiao, even though I still get catches with it.

My first speedcube (by then I wouldn't talk about my "main") was a stickerless Zhanchi, then Aolong v1, then Sulong, Chilong and after that a lot of cubes one after the other (Huanying, Yueying, Hualong, Tanglong, Yuexiao... I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two). The one I used as main for the longest time was the Chilong (over a year). Also the Aolong v1 was with me for quite some time. Let's see if The Valk can make it to my mains list. The Air has not made it but I will keep trying a bit more to see if after 200+ solves it gets better.

 

[Shaky Hands]

Just had my first 3BLD success ever in the Weekly Comp. Just using OP for everything at the moment. Still very happy with a slow time as I missed out on a success a few weeks back before going away with a corner-twist during execution.

Spending a long time on memo as I've been double-checking a lot of things as I really wanted to get a success at some point. Now that I've managed to get one I can concentrate on making some improvements.

Following reconstruction is mostly for me, just to make a permanent record of the memory. Nothing for M2 gurus to learn here. Hopefully just the first of many successes to come:

Spoiler

Scramble: R2 F' D2 B' D B2 L' U2 F L' U2 R2 B2 D2 F2 R U2 R' D2 L2

z2 // inspection

// edges, memo group 1
l y' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U' y l' // S
d' L R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L' d // F
l2 y' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U' y l2 // U
d L R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L' d' // N
d' L' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L d // P

// edges, memo group 2
y' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U' y // A
d L' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L d' // H
L2 D l' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' l D' L2 // E
L2 R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L2 // X
y' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U' y // A

// corners
F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // C
F' R' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R R F // V
R2 F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' R2 // W
R D' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R D R' // B
F R' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R R F' // D
F2 R' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R R F2 // G
D2 R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R D2 // H
D F' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F D' // X

I suspect I'm missing a better setup for the J-perm swap of the edge in Speffz position E as I'm currently doing L2 D l' (J-perm) l D' L2. Any suggestions?

 

[Selkie]

@Shaky Hands Awesome news Andy, congratulations mate

 

[One Wheel]

Just had my first 3BLD success ever in the Weekly Comp. Just using OP for everything at the moment. Still very happy with a slow time as I missed out on a success a few weeks back before going away with a corner-twist during execution.

Spending a long time on memo as I've been double-checking a lot of things as I really wanted to get a success at some point. Now that I've managed to get one I can concentrate on making some improvements.

Following reconstruction is mostly for me, just to make a permanent record of the memory. Nothing for M2 gurus to learn here. Hopefully just the first of many successes to come:

Spoiler

Scramble: R2 F' D2 B' D B2 L' U2 F L' U2 R2 B2 D2 F2 R U2 R' D2 L2

z2 // inspection

// edges, memo group 1
l y' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U' y l' // S
d' L R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L' d // F
l2 y' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U' y l2 // U
d L R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L' d' // N
d' L' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L d // P

// edges, memo group 2
y' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U' y // A
d L' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L d' // H
L2 D l' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' l D' L2 // E
L2 R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F' L2 // X
y' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U' y // A

// corners
F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' // C
F' R' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R R F // V
R2 F R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F' R2 // W
R D' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R D R' // B
F R' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R R F' // D
F2 R' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R R F2 // G
D2 R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R D2 // H
D F' R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R F D' // X

I suspect I'm missing a better setup for the T-perm swap of the edge in Speffz position E as I'm currently doing L2 D l' (T-perm) l D' L2. Any suggestions?

Are those setup moves right? I don't quite use Speffz, but that looks like it moves the BL edge into position for a T-perm, and that setup could be done with an L move. It also moves LU into position for a J-perm, which I would execute as L' Dw L' [T-perm] L Dw' L.

 

[Shaky Hands]

Are those setup moves right? I don't quite use Speffz, but that looks like it moves the BL edge into position for a T-perm, and that setup could be done with an L move. It also moves LU into position for a J-perm, which I would execute as L' Dw L' [T-perm] L Dw' L.

My mistake. Setup is correct, but should be L2 D l' (J-perm) l D' L2 rather than L2 D l' (T-perm) l D' L2. Now corrected in original post.

 

[h2f]

Congrats @Shaky Hands .

 

[mickael]

Bravo!

 

[Lid]

My mistake. Setup is correct, but should be L2 D l' (J-perm) l D' L2 rather than L2 D l' (T-perm) l D' L2. Now corrected in original post.

R2 B' R' B R' F' U' F R U R' U' (you can do it like x' R2 U' R' U l' F' U' F R U R' U')

 

[mafergut]

Well, my current main is a $7 cube

(unboxing). I also have the Valk3. I think Valk3 is probably the best performing cube out there. It has a very smooth feeling, and cuts everything. It is the size that does not fit my hands (for now). So now I stay with the $7 cube LOL. The ShengShou is very forgiving, turns very light and has exact same size as GAN 356. Perfect for me. I see now that all the cubes that come out are more and more becomming equally good. All just a matter of personal preferences.

Are you really using the FangYuan as your new main? I hadn't even heard about the cube until I saw your post. Has corner cutting improved with breaking in? Have you lubed it? I am tempted to buy one