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[h2f]

That's how I DNFed my skewb attempts.

I'm also happy with my 3bld - this time I was fourth. First solve - DNF - was 1:20 but I did cycles in wrong order. I mean it should be GM - WK but I did WK - GM. It was the first time when I did all algs ok - no mistakes in setups and any other casues. The second solve - I've stucked during memo so decided for safe solve (2:xx). 3rd - just staright ahead. Now I'm gonna to work with my memo time cause all algs are fine.

 

[newtonbase]

That's how I DNFed my skewb attempts.

I'm also happy with my 3bld - this time I was fourth. First solve - DNF - was 1:20 but I did cycles in wrong order. I mean it should be GM - WK but I did WK - GM. It was the first time when I did all algs ok - no mistakes in setups and any other casues. The second solve - I've stucked during memo so decided for safe solve (2:xx). 3rd - just staright ahead. Now I'm gonna to work with my memo time cause all algs are fine.

Well done @h2f

Do you or anyone else here have blind alg lists you are willing to share? I've been working on a few edge pair algs myself today that seem pretty quick but can't see that anyone else uses them. They are all for opposite pairs such as FP, OG, HN etc

 

[h2f]

Well done @h2f

Do you or anyone else here have blind alg lists you are willing to share? I've been working on a few edge pair algs myself today that seem pretty quick but can't see that anyone else uses them. They are all for opposite pairs such as FP, OG, HN etc

Thanks. My results: http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=1724&compid=39

My algs are in the signature but the list need to be renewed - I've changed some of them. The alg list based on M2 and UBL I like is made by Meneghetti: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...VmYleiLUnWuUUIWf4aTPQkj0bg/edit#gid=985782076
Mark, If you translate FP, OG etc on names like BF etc. I can tell you how I do it.

 

[Lid]

Megaminx 1:40.46 a5! [1:37.80, (1:58.32), 1:45.18, 1:38.41, (1:37.52)]

Feeling almost 100% comfortable with the current colour arrangement, cream top, then clockwise around, grey,orange,light blue,pink,light green - white bottom, green opposite light green then clockwise, purple, blue, red, yellow. Now I wish that I could get a side with blacktiles for my Xman's.

 

[newtonbase]

Thanks. My results: http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=1724&compid=39

My algs are in the signature but the list need to be renewed - I've changed some of them. The alg list based on M2 and UBL I like is made by Meneghetti: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...VmYleiLUnWuUUIWf4aTPQkj0bg/edit#gid=985782076
Mark, If you translate FP, OG etc on names like BF etc. I can tell you how I do it.

I like Meneghetti's algs. Signatures don't show on my phone but they can be found.
A couple that I found were
OG (DF-RD-LD) is M' D M D2 M' D M
HN (DF-LB-RB) is x' U' M U2 M' U' x
They are pretty similar.

Edit: errors fixed.

 

[h2f]

I like Meneghetti's algs. Signatures don't show on my phone but they can be found.
A couple that I found were
OG (DF-RB-LB) is M' D M D2 M' D' M
HN (DF-LB-RB) is x' U' M U2 M' U' x
They are pretty similar.

DF-RB-LB - your alg doesnt work. I do: R' U; [M', U L U'] = R' U M' U L U' M U L' U2 R.
DF-LB-RB - I do inverserly. I like the alg you gave Mark but these ones seems to me more natural. I mean - it's a setup to very easy alg which I do when I can with FU as a interechange sticker.
Haven't you made mistake in a letter scheme in the second alg?

Edit: my list
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...ChF2LBSyykfOrfX9CGiJOb-LZM/edit#gid=500082385

 

[bubbagrub]

Thanks. My results: http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=1724&compid=39

Wow -- 10 second cutoff for pyraminx? That's pretty harsh...
Well done on the 2x2 PB. And that final 3BLD result is super impressive...

 

[mark49152]

Congrats on the comp results @h2f.

I like your alg for RB-LB. Setups to FU are definitely a good next step from M2 to comms.

I don't do anything special for these targets, just vanilla M2, but sometimes I will do a wide setup to something nicer. RB-LB can be setup by Uw to FR-BR which is faster with a nice cancellation too.

 

[newtonbase]

I've fixed my alg @h2f

I like FU but I only use it where that's one of the targets so far. I should really concentrate on corner comms but edges are so much easier.

 

[One Wheel]

Also, you are welcome to stay here among us oldies, young punk!

Thanks! I'll try to not make a nuisance of myself.

In other news:

I just got home from my first competition. I was aiming for sub-35 on 3x3, got 35.85. good for 70th out of 87. 3:01.53 Feet single wasn't enough to get a mean (2:15 soft cut), but good for 7th out of 13 competitors. Blind I hit the 15 minute limit before I was done with execution, but I was headed for a DNF even if I'd had infinite time. I'm not sure if I messed up execution or if it was just memo. Probably both. I've only had one successful blind solve, and that wasn't timed, so it's hardly a surprise.

Overall I wasn't blown away. Not to be too harsh, and this may be just me, but I saw lots of kids whose parents seem to be trying to figure out how to spend more money on them. I think I'll wait for another competition that is both convenient AND has a list of events I'm really interested in before I make a final judgment. Maybe by then I'll be able to do BLD then, and hopefully 4BLD and 5BLD, too. And definitely 4x4. In the meantime, I think I enjoy the forum competitions more.

 

[h2f]

I like Meneghetti's algs. Signatures don't show on my phone but they can be found.
A couple that I found were
OG (DF-RB-LB) is M' D M D2 M' D M
HN (DF-LB-RB) is x' U' M U2 M' U' x
They are pretty similar.

Edit: error fixed.

Mark, I've checked speffz and OG is DF - RD - LD. Meneghetti does: [Bw: R2, U' M2 U]. I do setup to FU and it's up which target is first. For OG I do R2 U; [M', U L2 U']; for GO inverserly. Both have nice cancelation and are 11movers.

HN is DF-LB-RB and we have written about it.

Congrats on the comp results @h2f.

I like your alg for RB-LB. Setups to FU are definitely a good next step from M2 to comms.

I don't do anything special for these targets, just vanilla M2, but sometimes I will do a wide setup to something nicer. RB-LB can be setup by Uw to FR-BR which is faster with a nice cancellation too.

Thanks Mark. I'm happy you've discovered the power of Uw/Uw' setup. It solves many cases which in M2 are uncomfortable. For example DF-UF-RF you can do with advM2 setup U' but it needs regrip, but when you do Uw' you got one of the best M2 cases. And your setup for RB-LB is also nice. I guess the first thing I've realized when I've started 3style is that for cases like BR-UR you dont need setup U' but you can do it straight [R', U' M2 U]. In advM2 you would start with U' setup but in fact you dont need it.

 

[newtonbase]

Mark, I've checked speffz and OG is DF - RD - LD. Meneghetti does: [Bw: R2, U' M2 U]. I do setup to FU and it's up which target is first. For OG I do R2 U; [M', U L2 U']; for GO inverserly. Both have nice cancelation and are 11movers.

Oh dear. I had corrected an error on the alg but didn't check that. Sorry.
Your alg is nice and pretty intuitive.

 

[mark49152]

I guess the first thing I've realized when I've started 3style is that for cases like BR-UR you dont need setup U' but you can do it straight [R', U' M2 U]. In advM2 you would start with U' setup but in fact you dont need it.

It's a blurred distinction. To me, your alg is advanced M2 with a cancellation. I haven't started 3-style for edges, but I do use advanced M2 and am familiar with all those cancellations, and the fact that setup/cancellations effectively turn your example into a comm with R exchange rather than M exchange. I guess it's just another example of how well advanced M2 sets you up for 3-style. Once I start using FU as a helper too, and consistently applying setups/cancellations, I expect I will probably be doing 80% 3-style without ever looking at an alg sheet .

 

[h2f]

I guess it's just another example of how well advanced M2 sets you up for 3-style.

I agree with you. For BR UR it's an example how I've started to think about it. When I realized that targets like BL-DL became easy. And yeah, distinction are not necessery. Another example - for DB I do 2 comms - setup to UF for outer targets and [M, D2] or setup to LU or RU for inner targets and [M' U M, D2].

 

[mark49152]

Nice, @h2f

 

[MarcelP]

Definitely. I've bought many puzzles from him, including a delivery that just arrived today:

At first try, that crazy 4x4 seems nigh-on impossible... I can now see why there's been so much fuss about the kilominx, though -- it's really fun to solve...

Awesome! I just got that 2x2 megaminx too. I do not know how to solve it though. But it turns really well

 

[MarcelP]

I just did a sighted BLD solve yesterday. I used OP\OP. I am still amazed how you guys can do it 1) fast 2) with multiple cubes 3) with other methods. 4) without sight. My hat off to you black belt BLD-ers

 

[mark49152]

I just did a sighted BLD solve yesterday. I used OP\OP. I am still amazed how you guys can do it 1) fast 2) with multiple cubes 3) with other methods. 4) without sight. My hat off to you black belt BLD-ers

It's fun and very satisfying - join us

 

[Selkie]

@bubbagrub I do like the look of the Lovebird puzzle Ben. Think I will have too add that to my wants list

@h2f Ah Grzegorz Those DNFs have to be so frustrating. Nice BLD times and so close to podium too.

@Lid Great megaminx times there sir. When you said you were trying for a sub 1:50 Ao12, I didnt expect a nearly sub 1:40 Ao5!

@One Wheel Great to hear you have attended your firs comp. Good times considering your aims but it isnt all about the times. Mixing with other cubers is great for motivation and learning new stuff

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Was trying to get a sub 2 minute Megaminx average on film and kept failing then out of nowhere a sub 1:55 average with a 1:48 single but going to have to get self critical at this point. Thought I would break down the 1:48 as I knew the LL was pitiful:-

Star: 8.75s
F2L (5 Slots): 34.42s
Last 2 Faces Left: 1:13.00
All but LL: 1:27.05
LL: 1:48.00

Thats 21 second last layer with 11 seconds of that just being CP. Think its time I started learning more LL algs!

Here is the average:

MEGAMINX - 1:53.89 Average of 5 Solves
1:55.00, 1:56.35, 1:50.33, (2:25.61), (1:48.00)

 

[bubbagrub]

@bubbagrub I do like the look of the Lovebird puzzle Ben. Think I will have too add that to my wants list

Yep -- it's really beautiful to look at. Fun to solve too (although, like the Tuttminx, I still can't figure out how to do the last layer...), although I discovered that it's quite easy to inadvertently turn one of the hexagonal faces by 60 degrees instead of 120, and then the whole puzzle becomes unsolvable. And I don't just mean logically unsolvable; I mean the faces around the wrong pieces lock up and become immovable. It took me about an hour to fix that, once I realised what I'd done...

Was trying to get a sub 2 minute Megaminx average on film and kept failing then out of nowhere a sub 1:55 average with a 1:48 single but going to have to get self critical at this point. Thought I would break down the 1:48 as I knew the LL was pitiful:-

Star: 8.75s
F2L (5 Slots): 34.42s
Last 2 Faces Left: 1:13.00
All but LL: 1:27.05
LL: 1:48.00

Thats 21 second last layer with 11 seconds of that just being CP. Think its time I started learning more LL algs!

That's a really impressive average, Chris. I'm super-slow at Megaminx, partly because I find the lookahead hard, and spend long periods of time just trying to find pieces, but also because my LL approach is incredibly inefficient. In particular, I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to CO, so I end up just doing sunes randomly, hoping it will get solved...