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First sub-20 ao12: 19.858 (it was 20.226 from 3-jul)

At some point I was expecting to be sub-20 after practicing 3x3 for a year, but at another point I just was hoping for being sub-30, so I should be happy about having a sub-20 ao12 :)

22142 05-jul-2016 16:20:41 00:18.943 R2 D B2 L2 F2 D R2 D' L2 D' F U B' R D U L' D L2 U L'
22141 05-jul-2016 16:19:50 00:19.166 R2 D' B2 F2 U' B2 R2 B2 U' R2 U' B' L F R L' B2 U' B' U' B
22140 05-jul-2016 16:19:09 00:15.788 R2 B2 R2 L2 U' B2 D' R2 D' F2 R2 F' L' U' B F L2 B2 D L' D' U'
22139 05-jul-2016 16:18:14 00:21.078 L2 B2 D' R2 U R2 F2 D B2 L F' R2 D U' R' D' U' B D' F'
22138 05-jul-2016 16:17:25 00:21.575 L2 F2 L2 F2 D' R2 U2 B2 U F2 D F D2 R' L2 D' B R2 B2 D2 R
22137 05-jul-2016 16:16:41 00:21.360 F2 D' B2 R2 D L2 D L2 U B2 U2 F R2 B U' F R' D L D' B U2
22136 05-jul-2016 16:15:56 00:17.680 R2 D2 L2 D' R2 U2 B2 D L2 U R2 B R' L' U' B' D2 R L' D2 F' D2
22135 05-jul-2016 16:15:18 00:19.062 D R2 U R2 D F2 U2 B2 U' R' B R2 L D2 B' D U2 L U R2 U2
22134 05-jul-2016 16:14:36 00:17.382 U2 L2 D R2 U' F2 D2 B2 U L D2 L2 D' R B L F2 D R2 D'
22133 05-jul-2016 16:13:53 00:20.822 L2 D2 L2 F2 R2 D B2 U' R2 B2 R B F2 D F' U2 L D2 L' B2 U'
22132 05-jul-2016 16:13:11 00:21.518 U' L2 U F2 D' B2 L2 D B2 F2 D' L F R2 L2 D B' U' L U' L2 U'
22131 05-jul-2016 16:12:25 00:23.607 D B2 D' B2 D2 L2 U' L2 U2 B2 U2 R' F' U' B L' F D2 R' B' R' U'
Congrats! I looked at my records recently. Took me about a year to get a sub-20 single. And another year to get sub-20 Ao100.
 
Thats nice Vperm. I think your execution goes like: R' U R' U' y x l' U R' U' R2 x' U' R' U R z R x' alg.cubing.net. I'm not sure if it's like you do this but I keep this way to understand your fingertricks. Very nice Vperm. Beginning is like Vperm I use, middle is the other way and the finish the same. I cant figure it out properly but it works...
Ah, that's an interesting variation. I used alg.cubing.net to clean up my alg to look a little more like the way I execute it.
R' U R' U' y x2 R' U R' U' R2 x' U' R' U R U x' y' alg.cubing.net

Edit: upon further review I think your x l' is closer to my fingertricks than the x2 R' in my alg... I think the way I wrote the alg is the way I learned it, then over the years I've improved my fingertricks to do it more efficiently.

@mafergut No worries, I'm sure 3x3 will come back quickly once you shift focus again. If you're having fun with big cubes, focus on big cubes :). My 4x4 times have decreased lately as I've taken a big break from it because I just wasn't enjoying it. I know I'll get back to it, but for now I'm all about 3/5/6 because those are the puzzles I'm having fun with.

I found I had to tighten up my YueXiao a bit to fight the lockups, and when solving with the YueXiao I definitely have a different turning style that takes some time to adjust to each time I switch. I think if you're going to main with the YueXiao, it has to be 100%. I've been in 3x3 limbo for months, unable to pick the 3x3 I like best. I'll find from one day to the next that it changes. Though, I just got the Weilong GTS and I really like it right out of the box. I think, once set up, the GTS has real potential to become my uncontested #1. We shall see. (too bad it's not stickerless)
 
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@mafergut, maybe You need a little break?

It's not like I'm sick and tired of cubing because, to be honest, I cannot practise as much as I used to lately due to being quite busy at work. Also, taking a break has never worked for me, like some people that say "I quit cubing for a month and when I came back I was 1 second faster". Not a chance of that happening to me :(.

I think it makes a big difference for me to feel comfortable with the cube and all this changes between Yuexiao, Tanglong... have messed up a bit my turning. In my pause for lunch I had some time with my Yueying to get the feeling of the cube again after not using it for a long time, tried to concentrate in lookahead and had a short run of good solves, no more than an Ao12, sadly and I even got a 13.62 (with OLL skip) on blue cross, which is my fastest CN solve of all time. But, alas, my lookahead soon went away and I returned to sup-20 times. Maybe I just need more slow solves and forget about the timer for a long while, at least on 3x3.

Nice Ao12, @muchacho, David.

@earth2dan, thanks for the feedback. If I was sure that the GTS was going to be "the one" for me I wouldn't mind paying to TheCubicle for the premium version with my sticker shades already installed, lubed and all. According to CrazyBad Cuber it is great as they lube & tension it. But I'm afraid that it will be yet another 3x3. I agree with what you say about having to adapt to the Yuexiao. That would mean for me to abandon it completely, I don't want to get so used to one cube that it makes me significantly slower with any other.
 
@mafergut It can be tough on a plateau Migual. I found it can knock your confidence leading to what appears to be slower solves. In my humble opinion the slow times are more confidence than anything and hopefully you should see improvement soon.

@h2f Very nice Grzegorz. I have heard other say concentrating on another method has helped others though a better understanding of the cube amongt other things. Excellent :)

@muchacho , Awesome David. Always feels so good to reach a milestone like that :)
 
@mafergut It can be tough on a plateau Migual. I found it can knock your confidence leading to what appears to be slower solves. In my humble opinion the slow times are more confidence than anything and hopefully you should see improvement soon.

Thanks, Chris. Yeah, it's tough and a year ago I was just solving 3x3 and just casually 2x2 but right now I'm into so many events I just can't cope. I'm sure lack of confidence has a lot to do with this and maybe is the underlying reason. The visible effects are, though, lack of lookahead and sloppy turning during LL (even mixing up OLLs for similar cases).
 
If I was sure that the GTS was going to be "the one" for me I wouldn't mind paying to TheCubicle for the premium version with my sticker shades already installed, lubed and all
I've seriously considered ordering one of their premium 3x3's a few times. Though, I think I'm pretty good at setting up my 3x3's, so it's become one of those "when I have an extra $10 to burn on a 3x3" things...
 
I've seriously considered ordering one of their premium 3x3's a few times. Though, I think I'm pretty good at setting up my 3x3's, so it's become one of those "when I have an extra $10 to burn on a 3x3" things...
I thought I was good setting up my 3x3s but I completely failed with the Tanglong and I don't have that much time anymore so I have stopped ordering custom sticker sets and I just adapted to Moyu shades. I will have to clean the Tanglong and try with thicker lube and again that takes time from actually solving. I ordered a Premium one once just to try it but it was the Meiying and, to be honest, it's crazy fast and unstable, even after I tightened it up... a lot.
 
I've seriously considered ordering one of their premium 3x3's a few times. Though, I think I'm pretty good at setting up my 3x3's, so it's become one of those "when I have an extra $10 to burn on a 3x3" things...
I thought they were just like $3 more. Anyway I think I'll get one next time. I'm not great at setting them up, and just having my stickers on is probably worth it for me. My only fear is it will need maintenance and won't be as good, but that's no big deal.
 
I thought they were just like $3 more. Anyway I think I'll get one next time. I'm not great at setting them up, and just having my stickers on is probably worth it for me. My only fear is it will need maintenance and won't be as good, but that's no big deal.
They're mostly $7 more, and with the exchange that's closer to $10 for me :(. I think the Gans 356 is the only exception because it's already so expensive they cut some slack on that one.

I'm sure it's worth it. The stickers will run you $2-3, plus there's the time it takes you to clean/lube/resticker. I'm sure if you give your time a dollar value you're saving money with a premium cube, and it might be set up better than you could do yourself. If I'm happy with my GTS after I set it up, I'll consider ordering a premium one just to see what all the fuss is about ;)
 
David @muchacho, congrats!

@h2f Very nice Grzegorz. I have heard other say concentrating on another method has helped others though a better understanding of the cube amongt other things. Excellent :)

Thanks. Yes, I think my understanding of CFOP is deeper. I start using yellow on bottom and there's no big difference for me. Roux has another type of lookahead but it influences nicely on CFOP - for example it's much easier for me to find first pair even if i didnt track it. And I think it's a kind of mental barrier. I've started to think of myself as "being sub20" and it works.
 
I just tried to tighten up a bit my Yuexiao and with just half a turn of the screw the corner cutting goes away, to the point of it not even cutting 45º so I had to loosen it a quarter turn. It is strange that a cube that still feels kinda loose can change so drastically with just a tiny tension adjustment. It looks like now it locks up a bit less on the corners but the fluidity of it's turning has ben partially lost as now corner cutting requires a bit more effort.
 
I just tried to tighten up a bit my Yuexiao and with just half a turn of the screw the corner cutting goes away, to the point of it not even cutting 45º so I had to loosen it a quarter turn. It is strange that a cube that still feels kinda loose can change so drastically with just a tiny tension adjustment. It looks like now it locks up a bit less on the corners but the fluidity of it's turning has ben partially lost as now corner cutting requires a bit more effort.
I filed down the sharp point of the corners and it locks 95% less than without that mod. It is my current main since it is the best controllable cube I have that also can go very fast if needed.

 
I filed down the sharp point of the corners and it locks 95% less than without that mod. It is my current main since it is the best controllable cube I have that also can go very fast if needed.

Thanks! Did you change tensions and lubed it as well? I was shocked about how delicate was the balance of the cube to tiny changes in tensions. I might end up applying your mod to mine.
Right now I'm playing around with a Hualong. A ver good cube that was probably underestimated because of the flood of good cubes of this last year. I was using it for OH until I got the Tanglong but right now it feels much better than my recently lubed Tanglong.

By the way, fastest Y-perm I could time in like a dozen tries was 1.86. Most of the were sup-2, though.
 
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