Older cubers discussions

[mafergut]

There is no spoon. LOL.. I am sorry.. I had a Matrix moment there..

I wish I could do the Matrix thing like Neo and slow time down... to beat some cubing records, but of course that would not be the first thing I'd do.

By the way, I could not resist and had to place an order today. The culprit? The new SS Megaminx Aurora. The XMD Galaxy is nowhere to be seen on sale yet so I had to try the Aurora instead. And, you know, I had to optimize shipping costs so I ordered a Lan Lan Curvy Copter, a Lan Lan 3x3x2 (my first cuboid!!!! will need to learn some algs here) and the Qiyi skewb (don't need to ask, yes, I got the stickerless variant). I think when I receive all these and the Yuxin 6x6 I will do a video with all my latest purchases ... since the Aofu GT.

 

[mark49152]

@newtonbase, are you now a Hoya expert?

 

[JanW]

and the Qiyi skewb (don't need to ask, yes, I got the stickerless variant).

I placed a Qiyi Skewb in my latest order as well, though I can't remember now if I ended up ordering the stickerless or stickered. Is there some difference that I wasn't aware of?

 

[Logiqx]

While we're doing the film quotes...

"Do or do not. There is no try"

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

 

[newtonbase]

@newtonbase, are you now a Hoya expert?

I wish. 81% turnout ruined any chance of serious practice. Bloody democracy.

 

[muchacho]

Brexin some OH PBs

Single: 38.917 (was 39.350)
Ao5: 45.336 (was 48.069)
Ao12: 49.493 (was 53.308)

I want to continue until reaching decent times, is sub-40 Ao12 good enough (for a 23 seconds 2H solver)?

 

[mafergut]

Brexin some OH PBs

Single: 38.917 (was 39.350)
Ao5: 45.336 (was 48.069)
Ao12: 49.493 (was 53.308)

I want to continue until reaching decent times, is sub-40 Ao12 good enough (for a 23 seconds 2H solver)?

I'd say anything below double your 2H times is very good. My OH average is above 40s... well, I don't practice much to be honest but I consider any sub-40 solve a good one and I don't have but one sub-30 solve. But maybe Roux with a lower movecount can be comparatively faster at OH than 2H, I don't really know.

 

[muchacho]

I guess it can result in less moves/rotations than other methods if you are efficient, but I'm the worst at that

Edit: at least the ratio of GuRoux looks impressive, and h2f so far.

 

[Selkie]

Hi all. Firstly apologies for not being around much. Work has been manic and being summer, Volkswagen festivals (my other passion) are taking a lot of time but having seen @Jason Green 's post on FB about his excellent first sub 20 average in sub race and @MarcelP 's FB post of the medals for his comp thought I would drop by.

Still practicing albeit slightly less but need to get concentration back to try and get to sub 15 globally and comp. Will try and catch up on the thread in the next couple of days and try and get some events fast enough again to warrant some more videos

Missed my elder cubing brethren

 

[mafergut]

We have missed you too, @Selkie

 

[h2f]

Nice to see you back Chris @Selkie. Tomorrow I have a comp - http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=1611. As well as Marcel does but he is also a organizer.

I'm going to have a lot of fun. Every sub25 ao5 I'll take with closed eyes. Every good solve in othe events - 3bld - too. My acc in 3bld is much down due to 3style solving.

 

[mafergut]

Good luck to you both in the comp!!!

 

[odouhaha]

Hi guys, I have a question and hope someone can help me with my times. When i solve my times are always in a range of 20sec or more, so one solve is sub 30 and the next is in high 40s. I do around a hundred solves a day and have a PB of 24.07 but my average is usually around 40s..

Screenshot of ZYX Timer which im using, the graph shows my inconsistency.

Thanks for helping.

 

[muchacho]

Try hiding the times, I sometimes screw up the solve after a good one because of trying (too hard) to get a good Ao5.

But I remember being more inconsistent when I was slower.

 

[odouhaha]

Try hiding the times, I sometimes screw up the solve after a good one because I try (too hard) to get a good Ao5.

But I remember being more inconsistent when I was slower.

I hide it from the app during solving, but it is driving me nuts also i seem to be stuck in same time ranges for a while, although my PB keeps improving regularly my average is slightly improving..

 

[muchacho]

Always try to keep learning something even if it makes you slower in the short term. Don't time the solves if it bothers you, and focus on your weakest points and do untimed part-solves trying to be efficient... that's what I should be doing :rolleyes:

What's your method? How many algs you know?

 

[odouhaha]

Always try to keep learning something even if it makes you slower in the short term. Don't time the solves if it bothers you, and focus on your weakest points and do untimed part-solves trying to be efficient... that's what I should be doing :rolleyes:

What's your method? How many algs you know?

I think it is called CFOP - doing white cross > F2L > 2look OLL (+6 or 7 algs) > 2look PLL

Jah i know that could be better, but the timing is keeping me motivated, even if it isnt consistent.. do you recommend learning all algorithms? I've tried slow solving for a while but it did not improve the inconsistency im having.

 

[Jason Green]

I think it is called CFOP - doing white cross > F2L > 2look OLL (+6 or 7 algs) > 2look PLL

Jah i know that could be better, but the timing is keeping me motivated, even if it isnt consistent.. do you recommend learning all algorithms? I've tried slow solving for a while but it did not improve the inconsistency im having.

I would go ahead and start working on full PLL first. I know learning algs was exciting for me and it can start helping your times. After that you can slowly start learning full OLL. I know I was hesitant to start that, but now that I know them all it does not seem like a big deal. I guess I should start Winter Variation myself, I'm just wanting to learn look ahead better.

 

[mafergut]

I hide it from the app during solving, but it is driving me nuts also i seem to be stuck in same time ranges for a while, although my PB keeps improving regularly my average is slightly improving..

I think that is completely normal. Also, with 4LLL it is reasonable that you would have more variance as just from one solve where you get a cross (so you skip 1st look of OLL) and let's say an A-perm (also doing 1L PLL) compared to another solve where you need 2L OLL and 2L PLL, only for that you might have 6-8 seconds of difference. Once you learn full PLL variance will be slightly reduced. But anyway, there are solves that are just harder than others, a hidden F2L corner in a back slot, difficult cross... or just a small (or not small) fail (like inserting an F2L pair in the wrong slot of with the edge flipped). I can have a 15 second solve and a 25 sec one right after that.
Also, as @muchacho has said, try to do slow, untimed solves to work on efficiency and as @Jason Green said I'd start learning full PLL right now. Watch walthrough solve videos, that will also help you with F2L efficiency.

 

[earth2dan]

Always try to keep learning something even if it makes you slower in the short term. Don't time the solves if it bothers you, and focus on your weakest points and do untimed part-solves trying to be efficient... that's what I should be doing :rolleyes:

This is excellent advice. You will always hit a point where practice alone will no longer yield significant improvement, you must learn more to get better. That may slow you down temporarily, but that's learning . A few pages back someone busted out the old Bruce Lee quote about plateau's, and it couldn't be more true with this hobby.

Like @Jason Green said, learning your PLL's would be good right now. Most of the PLL's set themselves up, so they are really easy to drill over and over again. It may seem daunting at first, but once you start learning algs you'll find it gets easier and easier. When you're around the 40 second mark, learning more PLLs is a good way to shave a good 5+ seconds off your averages. I was around 40s averages when I embarked on the full PLL mission, and I still only know about 1/2 my OLLs.