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I started with 4x4, now 5x5 and, you know, there's still 6x6 and 7x7 that I don't have a clue how to solve yet so this is taking me some time, I guess.

If you can solve 4x4 and 5x5, you should find everything in 6x6 and 7x7 intuitive except the final 2 centres. I learned how to do those from this video:

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Prior to North London I was close to 2 mins on 4x4 I've now added 30s to that judging by my last session. It's meant to be my focus for next comp. Better get cracking with the practice.

It happened to me as well. I was en route for sub 1:30 and all of a sudden I'm back to high 1:3x. I was told that 5x5 practice would help my 4x4 times not make them worse but I'm not sure anymore.

If you can solve 4x4 and 5x5, you should find everything in 6x6 and 7x7 intuitive except the final 2 centres. I learned how to do those from this video:

Thanks. I will check the video. I also will have to buy a 6x6 :) I already have an Aofu GT 7x7 and solved it like 4-5 times, only 3 of them timed. Best time was 20:xx and I had first to learn some trick to finish L2C as in the untimed solves I was having a very hard time with that. Also with L4E. I don't remember the video I watched but I'm sure this one you provided will be very helpful as well.
 
My thoughts on bigger cube practice: Practising 5x5 improves recognition and makes 4x4 seem "easier". However, getting a 4x4 PB also involves turning fast, and going back to 4x4 after 5x5 practice results in slower turning.

So I notice a sort of ping-pong effect, where I practise one and get slower at the other, then see a burst of improvement at the second and get slower again at the first.
 
No, do five moves of a scramble, then toss and spin it, and see how long it takes you to figure out how to undo the scramble.

Gosh. That is kinda hard but I got a result!

I DNF'd when I couldn't do a 5 move solution but I persevered until I got an Ao12.

Results and scrambles... final solves are listed first.

Title: 3x3x3 Cube
Scrambler: 3x3x3 Simple
Session: 2
# of solving: 23
# of penalty: 0
# of DNF: 3
Std Dev: N/A
Best of all: 12.434
Worst of all: DNF
Average of all: N/A
Best Avg of 5: 23.720
Best Avg of 12: 33.746
Avg of Inspection: 27:54.119
---- Generated by KingEn Timer v3.3

Solving times: 51.598 43.797 45.518 16.282 46.073 29.895 1:04.956 23.826 22.150 27.277 24.074 23.260 DNF DNF 40.730 25.053 13.683 49.430 DNF 12.434 33.550 1:18.128 55.677

Times and Scrambles:
1. 51.598 (Inspection: 1:06.379) Date: 2016-06-08 18:04:51
D F B' R U' F2 L2 U B D B' D' R D2 F2 D' F' B U F2 D2 B2 L B2 D2

2. 43.797 (Inspection: 2:32.519) Date: 2016-06-08 18:03:37
U' L' D R L F' L2 F2 U R2 D R' D' F L F' D2 B' U' D2 R' L U2 D R

3. 45.518 (Inspection: 27.960) Date: 2016-06-08 18:01:06
B' L' D' F D' U R L' B' F L2 R D' R' U' L2 D U' R' D2 R L U' D2 R

4. 16.282 (Inspection: 57.667) Date: 2016-06-08 18:00:09
R2 L' D L2 R B' F' L2 D2 B2 F2 R2 L F D' L' D2 F' R2 D' U' R' B L2 B'

5. 46.073 (Inspection: 41.623) Date: 2016-06-08 17:59:41
B' R D B2 F2 D2 L D' U2 F2 D2 U2 L2 B' U' D2 R2 L2 F2 L2 D R F2 B2 D'

6. 29.895 (Inspection: 1:14.367) Date: 2016-06-08 17:58:43
D U' B2 L2 R' U2 L' R D' R L2 D B' L2 D2 F L' R' D B R2 B U2 F B

7. 1:04.956 (Inspection: 34.096) Date: 2016-06-08 17:58:04
U2 F2 L' D F2 L2 R' B' R' D' F U B L U2 B' R U R U B F L' B2 D2

8. 23.826 (Inspection: 32.618) Date: 2016-06-08 17:56:49
B' R2 D2 F B2 D2 R2 U F' R2 F D2 B U D2 L2 U' D' F' D L' D R2 D L2

9. 22.150 (Inspection: 36.562) Date: 2016-06-08 17:56:14
B R2 D' U F D' R' D U' B2 U2 B2 D R F U2 R2 L B D2 R F R2 U' F2

10. 27.277 (Inspection: 34.528) Date: 2016-06-08 17:55:43
B' R2 L F' R F' R L2 B2 U2 L' R2 B2 R D2 B2 U' D F2 U' F' R F' L2 D2

11. 24.074 (Inspection: 40.743) Date: 2016-06-08 17:55:05
F2 R D' R U' F R' U2 L' B' L U2 R' U' F2 D F2 L R2 D2 F R' D B' L

12. 23.260 (Inspection: 1:04.648) Date: 2016-06-08 17:54:24
F2 U2 B F' L' F L U R' B2 D' L B' D' B' D2 F L U B2 R' U R2 B F

13. DNF (Inspection: 2:11.957) Date: 2016-06-08 17:53:48
F L U' R U R2 F2 D' B' R' L U2 D' R2 D' R U2 D' F U2 D' F R' B R2

14. DNF (Inspection: 52.582) Date: 2016-06-08 17:52:44
U L' U2 F' U D2 B R2 D B L' B R' F B' L' R2 F' R2 L2 B R2 L2 F' U'

15. 40.730 (Inspection: 32.598) Date: 2016-06-08 17:50:32
R' F' U2 R' D2 U2 B2 D U' F B D' U R2 F2 U' B U D2 F' L F2 D R2 U'

16. 25.053 (Inspection: 25.264) Date: 2016-06-08 17:49:44
L D2 U B2 R F' B' D2 F2 B R B' U2 L U R2 L F' B' R L2 D R F2 U'

17. 13.683 (Inspection: 1:17.001) Date: 2016-06-08 17:49:07
U' R2 L B' F D2 U2 B' R2 F2 L B' D' R' F U2 R D' L' B' U2 D' B' U2 L'

18. 49.430 (Inspection: 1:45.610) Date: 2016-06-08 17:48:26
L2 B2 U' L' R2 U' F D U' L F' U2 F L F2 D F R2 B D B2 U2 F L2 D

19. DNF (Inspection: 27.037) Date: 2016-06-08 17:47:01
F L2 D2 B2 D' B' R2 B' R' L B' D U' B2 D F2 U' L F2 L2 F' B2 L B2 D'

20. 12.434 (Inspection: 40.888) Date: 2016-06-08 17:45:36
R' D B' D L' D' R' L' D' R' B' F' D B' R D B2 U L' D2 L2 B D2 F2 U

21. 33.550 (Inspection: 1:32.923) Date: 2016-06-08 17:45:16
B' L D B' R L D' L F' D' R2 L D U R' D' R' L' D2 F' R L D2 B2 R'

22. 1:18.128 (Inspection: 1:03.235) Date: 2016-06-08 17:44:28
L' U' B R2 U' L D L R U' B' F' L U2 L2 F2 B2 D F2 U' L R D' L' U2

23. 55.677 (Inspection: 619:51.948) Date: 2016-06-08 17:43:02
R D2 B' F L' D2 F' L B F2 U R' D2 U' B2 D F R' D B2 L U' D' F2 U
 
My thoughts on bigger cube practice: Practising 5x5 improves recognition and makes 4x4 seem "easier". However, getting a 4x4 PB also involves turning fast, and going back to 4x4 after 5x5 practice results in slower turning.

So I notice a sort of ping-pong effect, where I practise one and get slower at the other, then see a burst of improvement at the second and get slower again at the first.
Mmmm, that might explain it. At least I hope it's the case :)
 
Graphs with my first 20000 timed solves.

The peak at 15000 was because I started using an stickerless cube with different shades and some colors swaped. The one around 17000 was when I started using the U CMLL set on timed solves. Not much improvement in 5000 solves but I'm highly optimistic.
 

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@muchacho, @mafergut, @h2f I will probably try to relearn Square-1 to a decent level in the summer and try to get the other missing means and leave the feet decision for the future me. With a bit of luck the WCA will drop the event altogether and I won't have to decide :p

For my competition in 10 days I'll try to get better results in all blind events, as I'm not going to have a lot of practice time.

I've realized i need only 5 events: feet, megaminx, 5bld and sq1, 7x7.

@muchacho , impresssive!
 
Gosh. That is kinda hard but I got a result!

I DNF'd when I couldn't do a 5 move solution but I persevered until I got an Ao12.

Results and scrambles... final solves are listed first.

Title: 3x3x3 Cube
Scrambler: 3x3x3 Simple
Session: 2
# of solving: 23
# of penalty: 0
# of DNF: 3
Std Dev: N/A
Best of all: 12.434
Worst of all: DNF
Average of all: N/A
Best Avg of 5: 23.720
Best Avg of 12: 33.746
Avg of Inspection: 27:54.119
---- Generated by KingEn Timer v3.3

Solving times: 51.598 43.797 45.518 16.282 46.073 29.895 1:04.956 23.826 22.150 27.277 24.074 23.260 DNF DNF 40.730 25.053 13.683 49.430 DNF 12.434 33.550 1:18.128 55.677

Times and Scrambles:
1. 51.598 (Inspection: 1:06.379) Date: 2016-06-08 18:04:51
D F B' R U' F2 L2 U B D B' D' R D2 F2 D' F' B U F2 D2 B2 L B2 D2

2. 43.797 (Inspection: 2:32.519) Date: 2016-06-08 18:03:37
U' L' D R L F' L2 F2 U R2 D R' D' F L F' D2 B' U' D2 R' L U2 D R

3. 45.518 (Inspection: 27.960) Date: 2016-06-08 18:01:06
B' L' D' F D' U R L' B' F L2 R D' R' U' L2 D U' R' D2 R L U' D2 R

4. 16.282 (Inspection: 57.667) Date: 2016-06-08 18:00:09
R2 L' D L2 R B' F' L2 D2 B2 F2 R2 L F D' L' D2 F' R2 D' U' R' B L2 B'

5. 46.073 (Inspection: 41.623) Date: 2016-06-08 17:59:41
B' R D B2 F2 D2 L D' U2 F2 D2 U2 L2 B' U' D2 R2 L2 F2 L2 D R F2 B2 D'

6. 29.895 (Inspection: 1:14.367) Date: 2016-06-08 17:58:43
D U' B2 L2 R' U2 L' R D' R L2 D B' L2 D2 F L' R' D B R2 B U2 F B

7. 1:04.956 (Inspection: 34.096) Date: 2016-06-08 17:58:04
U2 F2 L' D F2 L2 R' B' R' D' F U B L U2 B' R U R U B F L' B2 D2

8. 23.826 (Inspection: 32.618) Date: 2016-06-08 17:56:49
B' R2 D2 F B2 D2 R2 U F' R2 F D2 B U D2 L2 U' D' F' D L' D R2 D L2

9. 22.150 (Inspection: 36.562) Date: 2016-06-08 17:56:14
B R2 D' U F D' R' D U' B2 U2 B2 D R F U2 R2 L B D2 R F R2 U' F2

10. 27.277 (Inspection: 34.528) Date: 2016-06-08 17:55:43
B' R2 L F' R F' R L2 B2 U2 L' R2 B2 R D2 B2 U' D F2 U' F' R F' L2 D2

11. 24.074 (Inspection: 40.743) Date: 2016-06-08 17:55:05
F2 R D' R U' F R' U2 L' B' L U2 R' U' F2 D F2 L R2 D2 F R' D B' L

12. 23.260 (Inspection: 1:04.648) Date: 2016-06-08 17:54:24
F2 U2 B F' L' F L U R' B2 D' L B' D' B' D2 F L U B2 R' U R2 B F

13. DNF (Inspection: 2:11.957) Date: 2016-06-08 17:53:48
F L U' R U R2 F2 D' B' R' L U2 D' R2 D' R U2 D' F U2 D' F R' B R2

14. DNF (Inspection: 52.582) Date: 2016-06-08 17:52:44
U L' U2 F' U D2 B R2 D B L' B R' F B' L' R2 F' R2 L2 B R2 L2 F' U'

15. 40.730 (Inspection: 32.598) Date: 2016-06-08 17:50:32
R' F' U2 R' D2 U2 B2 D U' F B D' U R2 F2 U' B U D2 F' L F2 D R2 U'

16. 25.053 (Inspection: 25.264) Date: 2016-06-08 17:49:44
L D2 U B2 R F' B' D2 F2 B R B' U2 L U R2 L F' B' R L2 D R F2 U'

17. 13.683 (Inspection: 1:17.001) Date: 2016-06-08 17:49:07
U' R2 L B' F D2 U2 B' R2 F2 L B' D' R' F U2 R D' L' B' U2 D' B' U2 L'

18. 49.430 (Inspection: 1:45.610) Date: 2016-06-08 17:48:26
L2 B2 U' L' R2 U' F D U' L F' U2 F L F2 D F R2 B D B2 U2 F L2 D

19. DNF (Inspection: 27.037) Date: 2016-06-08 17:47:01
F L2 D2 B2 D' B' R2 B' R' L B' D U' B2 D F2 U' L F2 L2 F' B2 L B2 D'

20. 12.434 (Inspection: 40.888) Date: 2016-06-08 17:45:36
R' D B' D L' D' R' L' D' R' B' F' D B' R D B2 U L' D2 L2 B D2 F2 U

21. 33.550 (Inspection: 1:32.923) Date: 2016-06-08 17:45:16
B' L D B' R L D' L F' D' R2 L D U R' D' R' L' D2 F' R L D2 B2 R'

22. 1:18.128 (Inspection: 1:03.235) Date: 2016-06-08 17:44:28
L' U' B R2 U' L D L R U' B' F' L U2 L2 F2 B2 D F2 U' L R D' L' U2

23. 55.677 (Inspection: 619:51.948) Date: 2016-06-08 17:43:02
R D2 B' F L' D2 F' L B F2 U R' D2 U' B2 D F R' D B2 L U' D' F2 U

Best Avg of 5: 23.720
Best Avg of 12: 33.746

Race to sub-20 anyone? haha
 
Here's a new game and challenge. 5x5 five move scramble. PB ao12 = 28.93.
(Rules: do the first five moves of a computer scramble, toss and spin it, no inspection.)
That was fun, and challenging. The two that were over a minute I was able to reduce back to 3x3 stage without breaking edges/centers. The other 3 I was able to reverse engineer. The 8 second one was just a really easy scramble...

1:07.78, 40.81, 1:01.75, 8.32, 23.23

I like this game :P
 
@muchacho, David, very nice. Keep pushing!!!

@moralsh, @h2f, Raúl, Grzegorz, and others that have been discussing about completeness of their WCA profiles. I'm so envious that I don't even have one to begin with. I'd be glad to have 2x2 through to 4x4, OH, Pyra, Skewb and Mega. Probably if I ever go to my first comp I will not be as greedy and will go just for 2x2 through 4x4 and little else.

I am trying to make some changes to my 4x4 based upon recommendations to my Mo3 that I posted some weeks ago. I was today trying to change pairing of 3 1st cross egdes from E-slice to M-slice. it definitely feels much more ergonomic but my lookahead is equally terrible. I will change to that but I'm not sure I will become any faster because of it.

I have been recommended (twice) to "not build centers a piece at a time but a slice at a time" but not sure if that means "half centers" or just that my center building can be improved in some other way. I think I will need to do some slow solves to thinkg about that a bit.

Also I popped an internal piece of my G4 while practicing today and it took like 5 minutes to fix it.
 
Also I popped an internal piece of my G4 while practicing today and it took like 5 minutes to fix it.

I had my first 6x6 pop today. As usual, my pops tend to happen when scrambling rather than when solving.

It surprised me that it took less time to fix that 6x6 pop than a 4x4 pop. I guess the extra pieces give it a bit more stability during reconstruction.

Not long after the pop I got a PB single and average on 6x6 in the Weekly Comp, so all is good anyway! :)
 
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