Older cubers discussions

[kbrune]

Hey guys! Boston comp in the books! I didn't have access to wifi at all the whole weekend so I couldn't check in.

Nice job on 5BLD!! @moralsh

Quick recap on my day in Boston

Mega: Beat single with 4:06.xx

Pyraminx: came in 15th with a 10.76 ave. 0.01 off my official average

3x3: 20.08. Beat my official ao5 but missed sub 20 by 0.09

4x4: cutoff of 1;30 again. First solve was 1:30.62 again! lol Second was 1:20.xx so I broke the curse and for
an ao5 which I managed to beat my official by 1 second with a 1:32.xx

5x5: Good solves but cutoff unreachable for me. 2 low 3 min solves.

2x2: Beat both my official single and ao5 with a 5.86 and a 6.99 respectively

3BLD: DNF (4:06.xx), 5:00.77, 3:48.54. third solve beats official time! but I missed a mean by 2 twisted edges

OH: Nothing special as usual

FMC: I was very excited to get a second crack at FMC. I was expecting between 45 and 50 and I ended up with a 39!
very good for me!

Cheers!

 

[h2f]

There I got a better ao100. I took a little break around midway. I was tired towards the end and thought I should finish later, but we will be out of time tonight so I pushed through. It's good discipline I guess to keep those 35 and 40 second solves, and then number 99 was a DNF. Like I saw it after I stopped the timer and felt really ticked. I thought I better not DNF this average!!

It looks like you are before a jump to sub-20. All stackmated I guess? If I'm correct stackmat means 0.3 - 0.5 slower time than keyboard.

 

[Jason Green]

It looks like you are before a jump to sub-20. All stackmated I guess? If I'm correct stackmat means 0.3 - 0.5 slower time than keyboard.

No these were actually on my phone timer. I've never noticed much variance going between stackmat, phone, or keyboard. I guess there should be some. I should try and do an ao100 with the mat tomorrow if I can just to compare. It may be because when I'm using the mat I'm usually at a better set up with better posture, etc. so it makes up for it.

 

[h2f]

@kbrune, great results and so many pb's. Congrats.

 

[MarcelP]

Hey guys! Boston comp in the books! I didn't have access to wifi at all the whole weekend so I couldn't check in.

Nice job on 5BLD!! @moralsh

Quick recap on my day in Boston

Mega: Beat single with 4:06.xx

Pyraminx: came in 15th with a 10.76 ave. 0.01 off my official average

3x3: 20.08. Beat my official ao5 but missed sub 20 by 0.09

4x4: cutoff of 1;30 again. First solve was 1:30.62 again! lol Second was 1:20.xx so I broke the curse and for
an ao5 which I managed to beat my official by 1 second with a 1:32.xx

5x5: Good solves but cutoff unreachable for me. 2 low 3 min solves.

2x2: Beat both my official single and ao5 with a 5.86 and a 6.99 respectively

3BLD: DNF (4:06.xx), 5:00.77, 3:48.54. third solve beats official time! but I missed a mean by 2 twisted edges

OH: Nothing special as usual

FMC: I was very excited to get a second crack at FMC. I was expecting between 45 and 50 and I ended up with a 39!
very good for me!

Cheers!

Wow, that must have been one big smile through out the weekend. Good job.

 

[Logiqx]

With 10 badly oriented edges, I'm now mostly placing the 2 correctly oriented edges on the middle layer (not F or B layer), rotate F and B, then flip the 2 pieces left from the middle layer. I found this to be a very easy way to keep track of the edges that remain to be oriented, which frees up brain capacity to plan movement of the two line edges. This is probably not always move optimal. Is this a good strategy, or should I try to get away from such non-optimal habits asap?

Have you tried y-axis neutrality? It's a good way to make some edges good before starting the solve.

 

[h2f]

New pb while talking with son.

Reconstruction
Scramble: D R2 D2 R2 D F2 D R2 U B2 F D' R' D2 L' U' B' D2 L' F

x' //
U F' R' U' R r B' // FB
r' U R2 U' r2 // SB
U' U2 R U2 R' U' R U' R' // CMLL antisune
M' M U' M' U' M U' M' // EO
U' M' U2 M' U M2 // LSE forced skip UR/UL

alg.cubing.net

35 stm. Possible 32. 35/14.77=2.35 tps

 

[newtonbase]

New pb while talking with son.

Reconstruction
Scramble: D R2 D2 R2 D F2 D R2 U B2 F D' R' D2 L' U' B' D2 L' F

x' //
U F' R' U' R r B' // FB
r' U R2 U' r2 // SB
U' U2 R U2 R' U' R U' R' // CMLL antisune
M' M U' M' U' M U' M' // EO
U' M' U2 M' U M2 // LSE forced skip UR/UL

alg.cubing.net

35 stm. Possible 32. 35/14.77=2.35 tps

Well done. Great reaction.

 

[mafergut]

@kbrune, Ken, fantastic performance at that comp. Great results. You're so fast at pyra!!!!

@Jason, yeah, for my (short) experience with stackmat or keyboard but with proper pick-up and drop of the cube, it's like 0.3-0.5 slower. Maybe practise will make it less than that but for me that's more or less it. I should use the yuxin timer I bought but I'm just lazy to take it out and set it up.

@h2f, Grzegorz, very nice Roux single!!! The doubts and pauses make me think there was potential to sub-12 at least.

By the way, my strategy of waiting and not buying the Aoshi has payed off. Yuxin will sell a 6x6 in a few weeks and it looks great and they will have it in stickerless, same shades as the 5x5. Also they will sell a new 4x4 that looks like it can fight for the throne of the best mini 4x4 with the CB G4.

 

[muchacho]

Very nice single! SB was cool.

@kbrune congrats!

 

[h2f]

@mafergut, if I were more experienced and not asleep (woke up at 5) sub10 possible with 3 tps (it's only 32 stm).

Talking about buying big cubes - every time when I bought new big cube a better one comes out. It was when I bought SS 6x6 (aoshi appeared), same with Aochuang (new Yuxin, Boachuang) and same this time - few weeks ago I bought Aoshi. The good thing is that I broke my Aoshi and it seems fine.

 

[mafergut]

@mafergut, if I were more experienced and not asleep (woke up at 5) sub10 possible with 3 tps (it's only 32 stm).

Talking about buying big cubes - every time when I bought new big cube a better one comes out. It was when I bought SS 6x6 (aoshi appeared), same with Aochuang (new Yuxin, Boachuang) and same this time - few weeks ago I bought Aoshi. The good thing is that I broke my Aoshi and it seems fine.

It will happen to me as well. I'll buy the Yuxin 6x6 and then Qiyi will make a better one

And regarding the Roux solve, yeah, sub-10 could be possible, which takes me to the point that Roux seems to have significantly lower move count than CFOP so... as we oldies can have decent lookahead but meh pure TPS... could it be that for us Roux has potential to be faster than CFOP? Am I wasting my time and should I switch to Roux like... right now? At least for 3x3, not sure that big cubes and Roux mix that well.

 

[Gordon]

If I'm correct stackmat means 0.3 - 0.5 slower time than keyboard.

I have the feeling, that I am faster with stackmat. I think it is because it is better placed than the spacebar in relation to my solving position. Also, I only use the Notebook keyboard and sometimes I miss the spacebar and hit the right mouse button which is right below. Then the context menu opens which I have to click away before I can stop the time... That's why I mostly hit the spacebar slower than the stack timer.

 

[h2f]

It will happen to me as well. I'll buy the Yuxin 6x6 and then Qiyi will make a better one

And regarding the Roux solve, yeah, sub-10 could be possible, which takes me to the point that Roux seems to have significantly lower move count than CFOP so... as we oldies can have decent lookahead but meh pure TPS... could it be that for us Roux has potential to be faster than CFOP? Am I wasting my time and should I switch to Roux like... right now? At least for 3x3, not sure that big cubes and Roux mix that well.

It was proven that Roux has a lower move count than CFOP but is one faster with Roux than with CFOP is an open question. I cant answer. I just like Roux and I have a lot of joy solving with it.

 

[muchacho]

So I tried to roll yesterday's mo100 PB to get rid of a 35 and 42 second solves that were there... but first solves of the day so not so good and it included some bad solves also (38, 37, 33).

When I reached that 42 solve I saw that the next 10 solves mean was 24.771 so I thought I could surely improve that... but what happened was 2 normal solves followed by a DNF (M').

So 22.965 mo100 instead of 22.970... 0.005 improvement Woohoo! o_O

 

[mafergut]

So I tried to roll yesterday's mo100 PB to get rid of a 35 and 42 second solves that were there... but first solves of the day so not so good and it included some bad solves also (38, 37, 33).

When I reached that 42 solve I saw that the next 10 solves mean was 24.771 so I thought I could surely improve that... but what happened was 2 normal solves followed by a DNF (M').

So 22.965 mo100 instead of 22.970... 0.005 improvement Woohoo! o_O

When trying to roll an average I usually do some warmup solves (untimed or timed but in another session) so that cold hands do not get in the middle when trying to improve the average.

 

[h2f]

When trying to roll an average I usually do some warmup solves (untimed or timed but in another session) so that cold hands do not get in the middle when trying to improve the average.

I do the same. I had some free time in the morning and finished my session of 100 solves:

Spoiler

solves/total: 100/100

single
best: 14.77
worst: 38.78

mean of 3
current: 23.79 (σ = 5.48)
best: 20.92 (σ = 5.37)

avg of 5
current: 23.90 (σ = 0.71)
best: 21.67 (σ = 0.56)

avg of 12
current: 25.03 (σ = 3.55)
best: 23.36 (σ = 1.66)

avg of 50
current: 24.93 (σ = 2.69)
best: 24.40 (σ = 2.25)

avg of 100
current: 25.46 (σ = 2.99)
best: 25.46 (σ = 2.99)

Average: 25.46 (σ = 2.99)
Mean: 25.66

All ao's are pbs: ao5: 21.67, ao12: 23.36, ao50 24.40, ao100 25.46, mo100: 25.66
I discovered i got pb ao5 on cam:

 

[MarcelP]

I discovered i got pb ao5 on cam:

I am at work, but can't wait to get home and watch the single and this Ao5. Your video's makes me want to drop CFOP and start all over again with Roux..

 

[muchacho]

Nice, and probably much more CN than me (at least 50-60% of my solves start with blue-white), right?

 

[h2f]

Thank you.

Nice, and probably much more CN than me (at least 50-60% of my solves start with blue-white), right?

I force myself to be CN but when I see nothing I start with green/blue and white on bottom. In fact CN is harder only during SB becasue you plan your FB during preinspection (I force myself to do it as PDF wrote me to plan as far as you can).

I am at work, but can't wait to get home and watch the single and this Ao5. Your video's makes me want to drop CFOP and start all over again with Roux..

Heh. Just do what makes you more joy. I think I wont back to CFOP on 3x3 when I see I'm progressing.