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[sqAree]

What is this half centers for yau everyone is talking about?

 

[Logiqx]

The exercise I like is to take 6 cubes and to this:
1. Prepare every case in proper order from 1 to 6. This forces connection between cases like doing B1 makes C1 etc.
2. Solving them in ordrer from 1 to 6.
When I used to it. I do 2. randomly. Next step is take 12 cubes and do the same but in connection B with C. D with E (T cases with U cases). T with U and H with Pi. And again - right order and random order. I really like this way of remembering it and it works for me.

I grouped the L, U and T cases using a similar principle. I learnt the mirrors and inverses along with cases which have the same colour combinations on top at the same time. Like you say it is helpful in setting up cases for practice and it aids recognition.

I haven't gone as far as setting up 6 cubes at a time but I'm finding real solves really helpful. I'm using the cases I know on big cubes, OH, Petrus and untimed 2H solves. I'm not ready to use them in timed 2H speed solves as I don't want to incur a 1-5 second delay.

 

[Jason Green]

Thanks for the welcomes! Maybe I should get back into the race to sub 30 and stick around.

Obviously!

Wowzers! I just can't keep up with this thread! you guys are great.

I finally received my AoFu GT 7x7! today (along with a few other puzzles).

I'm trying to use half centers more and more, because I really like it. Though in speedsolves I often regress to my bad one center at a time habits.

I would never keep up without my Tapatalk so I can read off and on at work. Speaking of big cubes, who all has tried a Bochuang vs. the Yuxin? I've already raved some about my Bochuang, but I think it is my most enjoyable cube just to feel the way it turns, even compared to the G4 and my Yuexiao! Is the Yuxin that nice?

I'll half to check out half centers sometime!

 

[newtonbase]

What is this half centers for yau everyone is talking about?

I hadn't realised it was so popular.
With cross 3/4 complete and held on left, with unsolved dedge at U, you solve half of 3 centres and put them, in order, on the left keeping U free. You then solve the remaining centres with U and Rw moves only. This video explains it better than I have

I've had a play with it and I like it.

 

[One Wheel]

Does anyone here do half centres for last four in Yau? It looks quite nice.

I've messed with it, and I do pay some attention to preserving bars, but when I try to build bars and then place them to solve my last 4 centers it seems that more often than not I place my centers wrong. Will greater familiarity with the color scheme over time fix that, or is there some other trick I'm just missing? I pay attention to color scheme when I'm building my first three cross edges, and then build centers one at a time (or more like 1-1-2) to match the cross edges. For some reason it's harder to follow matching the cross edges when I use half centers.

 

[Jason Green]

@Logiqx, I created the fork but that's all today. I decided to practice instead of playing with the scripts tonight.

I think I'll make an output option that can be BB, HTML, or BOTH. That way down the road if you or me or whoever wants to generate both outputs we aren't annoyed by having to run the script twice.

 

[Logiqx]

I've messed with it, and I do pay some attention to preserving bars, but when I try to build bars and then place them to solve my last 4 centers it seems that more often than not I place my centers wrong. Will greater familiarity with the color scheme over time fix that, or is there some other trick I'm just missing? I pay attention to color scheme when I'm building my first three cross edges, and then build centers one at a time (or more like 1-1-2) to match the cross edges. For some reason it's harder to follow matching the cross edges when I use half centers.

No need for the centres to match the cross. You just need to get their order correct. Start with a centre which has a bar pre-built. After solving the final cross piece just do an L turn to align everything.

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[h2f]

This happend to me yesterday.

 

[muchacho]

A 2 moves FB, then you tried something strange before saying "No" and then that walk away after a good time... a great European movie o_O

 

[h2f]

Scramble was off hand so no matter and doesnt count. My SB sucks. And in polish "no" means "yes" or "yeah".

 

[muchacho]

Polish is too cool!

 

[Logiqx]

I started doing a bit of 5x5 again this week after a month or so neglecting it.

Milestone session... first sub-3.

# of solving: 5
# of penalty: 0
# of DNF: 0
Std Dev: 8.595
Best of all: 2:38.673
Worst of all: 4:02.552
Average of all: 2:59.237
Best Avg of 5: 2:59.237

Solving times: 3:08.598 2:38.673 3:01.274 4:02.552 2:47.841

p.s. the 4 minutes solve was a complete screwup.

 

[h2f]

It's closer to yeah and you cant say "no" (pronunciation [ˈnəʊ]) in offcial speech. It's something like "aha" or "well". To say no we use "nie" [niː , ˈnaɪ] which is close to Deutsch "nein" but witout "n" in the end].

Back to 6x6 before work I starte right now - first sub6 on cam.

Edit: and next one almost sub6 - 6:01. It could be sub6 but Hperm (I cant do this on big cubes and do 2xUb) and pop during first Ub.

 

[mafergut]

Again I missed a couple of pages just by one day off the forum. Nice Roux solve @h2f, Grzegorz.
I will check that "half centers" video, @newtonbase Mark. I definitely need to try new things to improve my 4x4.

EDIT: Watched the video, it was short but it really looks like it is a better approach at L4C than building them 1 at a time. Do you guys know if the top dogs at 4x4 use this? Anyway I have to try it. Too many times I have seen that I have several bars and I have had the temptation to put them all vertical before starting to build my 1st center in order to avoid splitting them

 

[h2f]

Sorry for spamming - anoher one 5:40.75 with double parity.

 

[Isaac Lai]

One major problem thay I experienced with half centres at first (I don't do it now) is that you have to be pretty efficient and look ahead properly. Otherwise, you will waste a lot of time doing Rw2s repeatedly to find your pieces. The good thing about solving one at a time is that you know which centres are solved and unsolved, so lookahead is somewhat easier.

 

[mafergut]

One major problem thay I experienced with half centres at first (I don't do it now) is that you have to be pretty efficient and look ahead properly. Otherwise, you will waste a lot of time doing Rw2s repeatedly to find your pieces. The good thing about solving one at a time is that you know which centres are solved and unsolved, so lookahead is somewhat easier.

Yeah, but I think it could solve one of my problems, which is having to do a lot of L2 Lw2 when I need to move pieces on the left, which I try to avoid and go for Rw moves when possible.

 

[h2f]

One major problem thay I experienced with half centres at first (I don't do it now) is that you have to be pretty efficient and look ahead properly. Otherwise, you will waste a lot of time doing Rw2s repeatedly to find your pieces. The good thing about solving one at a time is that you know which centres are solved and unsolved, so lookahead is somewhat easier.

When you used to it's not so hard. Often pieces are next to them and it goes quite fast.

 

[Logiqx]

One major problem thay I experienced with half centres at first (I don't do it now) is that you have to be pretty efficient and look ahead properly. Otherwise, you will waste a lot of time doing Rw2s repeatedly to find your pieces. The good thing about solving one at a time is that you know which centres are solved and unsolved, so lookahead is somewhat easier.

Another tip is to complete the half centres in a clockwise direction (e.g. red, green, orange), starting with the colour matching the bottom half centre. This ensures the front face and top face always contain unsolved pieces and it helps lookahead. I used to solve them in an anti-clockwise direction but there is no information on the front face and you are constantly looking at the back of the cube. Changing the direction has really helped my lookahead.

 

[h2f]

Another tip is to complete the half centres in a clockwise direction (e.g. red, green, orange), starting with the colour matching the bottom half centre. This ensures the front face and top face always contain unsolved pieces and it helps lookahead. I used to solve them in an anti-clockwise direction but there is no information on the front face and you are constantly looking at the back of the cube. Changing the direction has really helped my lookahead.

That's the way I do it. Nice to see you find the same idea.

Edit: My first sub6 if you're not get bored yet