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earth2dan
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Aaahhh curse you!If you really don't want to buy anymore 3x3 then really, really don't buy an X-Men Tornado. Its awesome
Currently filling a Cubicle cart with magic, master magic, and clock because I don't have any of them. I fear a Tanglong and a Tornado my sneak their way in before I pull that trigger.
mafergut
Legend
Selkie
Premium Member
Despite the fact I was kidding and trying to get someone else to get somewhere close to the number of cubes I buy, I do love the X-Men Tornado. I changed mains between rounds 1 and 2 of Exeter Open. I have also completely dismantled it this week and lubed the core with 50k diff lube and it is feeling great. I will try and do a review video for it this weekend
earth2dan
Veteran
Haha, I really don't require much arm twisting to buy new puzzles
Nowhere near your collection, but I think I'm approaching 100 now...Did you get the stickerless Tornado? The only stickerless 3x3 I've ever found with shades I liked was a Cyclone Boys puzzle, but it's just not a great speedcube. Looking at the images the Tornado actually looks like it has really nice stickerless shades.
I really have resolved not to buy any more new 3x3's just for the sake of it though. I think the only one I'm seriously considering is a new Gans 356, because they're so very quiet. I have one I keep at the office that's perfect because it's silent enough that I can solve without distracting coworkers. I'd like to have another one to keep in the car or just to have at home for when my wife is sick of the clackity clack
Selkie
Premium Member
Haha, I really don't require much arm twisting to buy new puzzles
Did you get the stickerless Tornado? The only stickerless 3x3 I've ever found with shades I liked was a Cyclone Boys puzzle, but it's just not a great speedcube. Looking at the images the Tornado actually looks like it has really nice stickerless shades.
I really have resolved not to buy any more new 3x3's just for the sake of it though. I think the only one I'm seriously considering is a new Gans 356, because they're so very quiet. I have one I keep at the office that's perfect because it's silent enough that I can solve without distracting coworkers. I'd like to have another one to keep in the car or just to have at home for when my wife is sick of the clackity clack
Yes I have the stickerless and the shades are great. Comparing it to teh Cyclone Boys G4 Stickerless which is my main 4x4 the colours are comparible but the yellow is a brighter shade but all have good contrast unlike the YueXiao stickerless where the green is like lime and close to the yellow.
As for the Gans 356, the v1 was my main and I do have the 356 v2 advanced but do not find it as good. The main thing for the gans for me is they dont do stickerless and I am changing to stickerless for everything
newtonbase
Premium Member
Got my Qiyi Cavs. Only 10 days delivery from Champion's Cube Store. I quite like it. Turning isn't super fast out of the box but for me that equates to fewer mistakes so much more consistent times. Possible main.
Logiqx
Veteran
I noticed a cool video last night (first sub-10 Ao12 for Petrus) so after a quick update to the Wiki, I decided to do a few Petrus solves.
I have never timed myself before so I decided to do an Ao12 which ended up becoming an Ao50. I'm pretty happy with the 41.61 Ao12 considering it's my first timed session.
Method: 2x2x2 (partially CN - W/Y on bottom), 3x2x2, EO, F2L (RU), OCLL, PLL
I have never timed myself before so I decided to do an Ao12 which ended up becoming an Ao50. I'm pretty happy with the 41.61 Ao12 considering it's my first timed session.
Method: 2x2x2 (partially CN - W/Y on bottom), 3x2x2, EO, F2L (RU), OCLL, PLL
Generated By csTimer on 2016-4-16
solves/total: 50/50
single
best: 29.46
worst: 1:13.62
mean of 3
current: 44.53 (σ = 7.20)
best: 39.52 (σ = 1.72)
avg of 5
current: 43.63 (σ = 5.83)
best: 39.62 (σ = 1.61)
avg of 12
current: 42.92 (σ = 5.04)
best: 41.61 (σ = 3.97)
avg of 50
current: 47.11 (σ = 6.70)
best: 47.11 (σ = 6.70)
Average: 47.11 (σ = 6.70)
Mean: 47.56
Time List:
1. 1:13.62 L2 U B2 U R2 F2 D' B2 U' F U R' F2 U B2 F L2 U B'
2. 39.09 L2 R2 B U2 L2 F U2 B' U2 F2 L2 U' L2 F L D U' B U2 F U'
3. 1:06.19 D L F' R2 U2 F' D R2 L' F2 D' F2 U D2 B2 D' F2 L2 B2 R2
4. 40.69 F2 L2 U B2 F2 U' F2 R2 U' R2 U2 F' R U' R2 B' F' L B
5. 1:05.32 D2 B' D2 R2 D2 R2 F U2 F U2 D' L R2 U2 B' D B R F2 D'
6. 51.01 F D' L2 B' U' R' B2 L U' F2 R2 U2 F2 B2 R2 L' D2 L' F2 U2
7. 45.42 D B D2 R F' L' B D F' U' R D2 L F2 L U2 L' B2 L D2 R'
8. 29.46 R2 B2 L2 U2 B L2 D2 F R2 F2 U2 R D' R' U2 R2 D' L B U' R
9. 51.52 D' F D2 B U R L D' R' D' L2 B' U2 F2 B2 R2 U2 B' L2
10. 44.77 F2 R' F2 R2 D L F U' L' F' R L2 F2 D2 R F2 L F2 U2 F2
11. 1:03.39 U B2 L2 U L2 B2 F2 D2 B2 D' R2 L U R F' U' F' R B2 L R2
12. 49.78 L2 D2 U B2 L2 U2 R2 U L2 F2 L2 B' D' L D B D' B F2 U' B
13. 51.80 L2 F R2 U F2 U L' D R' U' D2 F2 R2 B L2 U2 B2 U2 F R2
14. 50.64 F2 L' D' F' U D2 L2 F U R' U2 D2 R B2 R' U2 F2 L' U2 F2
15. 42.21 R F2 L U2 L' B2 R2 U2 L' F2 L' B L' B' U F R' B2 L D'
16. 56.84 B2 U R2 D2 B' U2 R B L2 U R2 F2 D2 B2 D2 B2 D' R2 F2
17. 50.61 F2 U' L2 B2 U F2 D F2 D' L2 D2 R B2 D' L B D R2 F2 U' F2
18. 44.28 R2 F R' D F D2 B' U R2 U' R2 D' L2 B2 U2 F2 U2 L'
19. 44.66 R2 U L2 U2 F2 U F2 U2 R2 U2 F' L U F U B L R D' U' L
20. 42.43 B2 L2 F2 D F2 D2 B2 U' F2 U2 R2 B' D' F U' R B D' R' F2
21. 57.76 U R F' D2 F D B2 D2 F L U2 R2 U2 R2 D R2 B2 R2 D
22. 1:11.05 F U2 R2 F L2 F' U2 F U2 B2 D2 L U B2 R' D U' F2 R' B R2
23. 44.21 U2 B' D2 F' D2 F D2 F' L2 B2 F L D' R F2 U2 B' R' U L'
24. 42.04 L2 U2 F' D2 B' L2 B2 F R2 B U2 D' R' B D R' D2 B2 L' R2
25. 50.57 D' B2 D' L2 B2 R2 B2 U B2 R U' L F2 L' B U' B R' F'
26. 41.37 F' D' F2 R2 F2 D R2 D' L2 D2 B2 U R' B L' U' R B2 F2 U
27. 45.73 F L2 F' L2 B' U2 B R2 B R2 F L' D U2 R' B' R' F2 U F R'
28. 50.09 F2 R2 D L2 F2 R2 D2 B2 F2 R B D R2 B L D2 L' F' U2
29. 48.61 D' U2 F2 U2 B2 R B2 L' D2 R B2 L D L2 B' F R' B2 L2 U R2
30. 48.92 F2 D2 L F2 R U2 F2 D2 R' U2 R U R2 F D2 L2 U' L' U2 F' R
31. 47.16 B' D2 B' F' R2 U2 L2 D2 F L2 F L F D' R' U L' R2 F D2 R2
32. 51.45 B2 D F2 U2 R2 D2 U' L2 R2 U' R2 F D F L B L2 R' U' L2 F'
33. 31.16 B R F' R2 U' R U2 R' B' L' B2 U R2 L2 F2 U' D F2
34. 58.69 F2 L2 F2 D2 L2 U2 L2 D F2 D' R B U' L' F' L' R2 B D' F'
35. 45.36 U2 R2 U B' R L' D' R B' U2 B2 R B2 L' U2 B2 R F2 L2 U2
36. 45.86 F' B2 D F2 L2 B2 D2 R2 D' U2 R2 U' F' U' R' D' U B L' D' U2
37. 38.11 B2 U' B2 D2 F2 D F2 L2 R2 D' B R B' F D' U' L R F2 U'
38. 38.63 L R2 B L2 R2 F' R2 U2 B' F' R2 L B' L R U' F R2 D'
39. 54.53 R' F2 R' F' B' L2 D2 L' U F' L2 B' U2 F' U2 D2 R2 F2 U'
40. 46.76 D' F' U' F U F2 R D L B2 U F2 L2 U B2 U R2 L2 D'
41. 41.46 B U2 B2 D2 L2 F' R2 F' U2 F2 R2 U R' B' R' B2 R' F2 L' D L2
42. 38.84 D2 B2 U F2 D' F2 R2 D2 B2 R2 U' F R2 D B2 D2 B' F U2 R F
43. 38.23 R2 B' D2 U2 R2 B' F' R2 F2 L D R2 B' R2 U2 L D2 R B
44. 42.37 D F' B2 D' B U D2 L U D' R2 L2 F2 U' R2 F2 L2 U' R'
45. 38.53 D2 L2 B2 R' F2 R' U2 L' U2 R2 D B2 U L R F D F2 D F'
46. 49.40 D2 F2 R2 U2 R2 U2 F' L2 B D L2 F' L' B D2 U' L D2 F'
47. 33.64 R2 D' L2 D U' L2 R2 D R2 F' R' B2 F' L B' R D2 U' L2
48. 43.76 D' R' D' L' F D2 F L' U' F R2 D2 L2 F' L2 U2 D2 B2 L2 F'
49. 52.07 L R2 U B2 F2 U2 F2 U2 L2 U' F L' U' R2 B2 U F' D L2 B'
50. 37.73 L' D R2 D' R2 D L2 R2 U B2 R2 D' R' F' R U' L U2 B2 F
solves/total: 50/50
single
best: 29.46
worst: 1:13.62
mean of 3
current: 44.53 (σ = 7.20)
best: 39.52 (σ = 1.72)
avg of 5
current: 43.63 (σ = 5.83)
best: 39.62 (σ = 1.61)
avg of 12
current: 42.92 (σ = 5.04)
best: 41.61 (σ = 3.97)
avg of 50
current: 47.11 (σ = 6.70)
best: 47.11 (σ = 6.70)
Average: 47.11 (σ = 6.70)
Mean: 47.56
Time List:
1. 1:13.62 L2 U B2 U R2 F2 D' B2 U' F U R' F2 U B2 F L2 U B'
2. 39.09 L2 R2 B U2 L2 F U2 B' U2 F2 L2 U' L2 F L D U' B U2 F U'
3. 1:06.19 D L F' R2 U2 F' D R2 L' F2 D' F2 U D2 B2 D' F2 L2 B2 R2
4. 40.69 F2 L2 U B2 F2 U' F2 R2 U' R2 U2 F' R U' R2 B' F' L B
5. 1:05.32 D2 B' D2 R2 D2 R2 F U2 F U2 D' L R2 U2 B' D B R F2 D'
6. 51.01 F D' L2 B' U' R' B2 L U' F2 R2 U2 F2 B2 R2 L' D2 L' F2 U2
7. 45.42 D B D2 R F' L' B D F' U' R D2 L F2 L U2 L' B2 L D2 R'
8. 29.46 R2 B2 L2 U2 B L2 D2 F R2 F2 U2 R D' R' U2 R2 D' L B U' R
9. 51.52 D' F D2 B U R L D' R' D' L2 B' U2 F2 B2 R2 U2 B' L2
10. 44.77 F2 R' F2 R2 D L F U' L' F' R L2 F2 D2 R F2 L F2 U2 F2
11. 1:03.39 U B2 L2 U L2 B2 F2 D2 B2 D' R2 L U R F' U' F' R B2 L R2
12. 49.78 L2 D2 U B2 L2 U2 R2 U L2 F2 L2 B' D' L D B D' B F2 U' B
13. 51.80 L2 F R2 U F2 U L' D R' U' D2 F2 R2 B L2 U2 B2 U2 F R2
14. 50.64 F2 L' D' F' U D2 L2 F U R' U2 D2 R B2 R' U2 F2 L' U2 F2
15. 42.21 R F2 L U2 L' B2 R2 U2 L' F2 L' B L' B' U F R' B2 L D'
16. 56.84 B2 U R2 D2 B' U2 R B L2 U R2 F2 D2 B2 D2 B2 D' R2 F2
17. 50.61 F2 U' L2 B2 U F2 D F2 D' L2 D2 R B2 D' L B D R2 F2 U' F2
18. 44.28 R2 F R' D F D2 B' U R2 U' R2 D' L2 B2 U2 F2 U2 L'
19. 44.66 R2 U L2 U2 F2 U F2 U2 R2 U2 F' L U F U B L R D' U' L
20. 42.43 B2 L2 F2 D F2 D2 B2 U' F2 U2 R2 B' D' F U' R B D' R' F2
21. 57.76 U R F' D2 F D B2 D2 F L U2 R2 U2 R2 D R2 B2 R2 D
22. 1:11.05 F U2 R2 F L2 F' U2 F U2 B2 D2 L U B2 R' D U' F2 R' B R2
23. 44.21 U2 B' D2 F' D2 F D2 F' L2 B2 F L D' R F2 U2 B' R' U L'
24. 42.04 L2 U2 F' D2 B' L2 B2 F R2 B U2 D' R' B D R' D2 B2 L' R2
25. 50.57 D' B2 D' L2 B2 R2 B2 U B2 R U' L F2 L' B U' B R' F'
26. 41.37 F' D' F2 R2 F2 D R2 D' L2 D2 B2 U R' B L' U' R B2 F2 U
27. 45.73 F L2 F' L2 B' U2 B R2 B R2 F L' D U2 R' B' R' F2 U F R'
28. 50.09 F2 R2 D L2 F2 R2 D2 B2 F2 R B D R2 B L D2 L' F' U2
29. 48.61 D' U2 F2 U2 B2 R B2 L' D2 R B2 L D L2 B' F R' B2 L2 U R2
30. 48.92 F2 D2 L F2 R U2 F2 D2 R' U2 R U R2 F D2 L2 U' L' U2 F' R
31. 47.16 B' D2 B' F' R2 U2 L2 D2 F L2 F L F D' R' U L' R2 F D2 R2
32. 51.45 B2 D F2 U2 R2 D2 U' L2 R2 U' R2 F D F L B L2 R' U' L2 F'
33. 31.16 B R F' R2 U' R U2 R' B' L' B2 U R2 L2 F2 U' D F2
34. 58.69 F2 L2 F2 D2 L2 U2 L2 D F2 D' R B U' L' F' L' R2 B D' F'
35. 45.36 U2 R2 U B' R L' D' R B' U2 B2 R B2 L' U2 B2 R F2 L2 U2
36. 45.86 F' B2 D F2 L2 B2 D2 R2 D' U2 R2 U' F' U' R' D' U B L' D' U2
37. 38.11 B2 U' B2 D2 F2 D F2 L2 R2 D' B R B' F D' U' L R F2 U'
38. 38.63 L R2 B L2 R2 F' R2 U2 B' F' R2 L B' L R U' F R2 D'
39. 54.53 R' F2 R' F' B' L2 D2 L' U F' L2 B' U2 F' U2 D2 R2 F2 U'
40. 46.76 D' F' U' F U F2 R D L B2 U F2 L2 U B2 U R2 L2 D'
41. 41.46 B U2 B2 D2 L2 F' R2 F' U2 F2 R2 U R' B' R' B2 R' F2 L' D L2
42. 38.84 D2 B2 U F2 D' F2 R2 D2 B2 R2 U' F R2 D B2 D2 B' F U2 R F
43. 38.23 R2 B' D2 U2 R2 B' F' R2 F2 L D R2 B' R2 U2 L D2 R B
44. 42.37 D F' B2 D' B U D2 L U D' R2 L2 F2 U' R2 F2 L2 U' R'
45. 38.53 D2 L2 B2 R' F2 R' U2 L' U2 R2 D B2 U L R F D F2 D F'
46. 49.40 D2 F2 R2 U2 R2 U2 F' L2 B D L2 F' L' B D2 U' L D2 F'
47. 33.64 R2 D' L2 D U' L2 R2 D R2 F' R' B2 F' L B' R D2 U' L2
48. 43.76 D' R' D' L' F D2 F L' U' F R2 D2 L2 F' L2 U2 D2 B2 L2 F'
49. 52.07 L R2 U B2 F2 U2 F2 U2 L2 U' F L' U' R2 B2 U F' D L2 B'
50. 37.73 L' D R2 D' R2 D L2 R2 U B2 R2 D' R' F' R U' L U2 B2 F
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mafergut
Legend
@newtonbase: Mark, now I will have to include a QiYi Cavs 2x2 in my next order, with that Aoshi Not searching for a main but it could be a backup main for my Dayan. Does it lock like the YJ/Moyus? Of course another option could be a f/s. Anybody has one and likes it and which one? (I think there's a stickered one and a tiled one, and a 55mm also. Because, you know, a second 2x2 does not make the package that much bigger
@Logiqx: Michael, nice Petrus session. I have never tried Petrus. I have tried Roux and ZZ but that's all. And I never was any good at any of the two. Maybe Petrus could help my block building but my "to do" list is already growing out of control and I will only live that many years, you know
Not searching for a main but it could be a backup main for my Dayan. Does it lock like the YJ/Moyus? Of course another option could be a f/s. Anybody has one and likes it and which one? (I think there's a stickered one and a tiled one, and a 55mm also. Because, you know, a second 2x2 does not make the package that much bigger @Logiqx: Michael, nice Petrus session. I have never tried Petrus. I have tried Roux and ZZ but that's all. And I never was any good at any of the two. Maybe Petrus could help my block building but my "to do" list is already growing out of control and I will only live that many years, you know
newtonbase
Premium Member
It's quieter and smoother than my Lingpo and Tangpo which are my mains and feels quite hollow. I doubt it would be quick enough for the fast guys but it's fine for me. But I never liked the Dayan so what do I know?@newtonbase: Mark, now I will have to include a QiYi Cavs 2x2 in my next order, with that Aoshi
mafergut
Legend
I don't need it to be super-fast. If it is smooth, has decent corner cutting and does not catch it might be worth a try. I didn't like the Dayan at first but after breaking it in it's very good (I wouldn't say great).
By the way, Mega PB Ao12 but still no sub 3:30, even if to get there second
It's just 3:39 and my best solve today was 3:29 so, quite regular with my times but slow.EDIT: 3:06 single (not PB) and 3:32 Ao5 (PB). Still not sub-3 single and not sub 3:30 averages.
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Logiqx
Veteran
@Logiqx: Michael, nice Petrus session. I have never tried Petrus. I have tried Roux and ZZ but that's all. And I never was any good at any of the two. Maybe Petrus could help my block building but my "to do" list is already growing out of control and I will only live that many years, you know
It's quite a fun method and relatively easy to pick up. If you glance at the times, you'll see that I was getting more consistent towards the end of the session as I was becoming more proficient and making less mistakes during EO. Oh... and I was starting to get a bit better at block building.
I might start doing Petrus solves regularly as I'm starting to learn COLL (excluding the Sunes) and each case will appear more frequently than they do in CFOP. Using CFOP and partial edge control the typical COLL cases appear ~3 times less often than typically OLL cases. Petrus and ZZ present a COLL case every solve so they're better for practicing COLL algs during real solves.
Jason Green
Veteran
I have a 55mm Fangshi and I like it quite well. A Lingpo I tried at last comp I liked better.
At the KC comp today and pleased with results so far. 21.80 3x3 average with a 20.00 single (actually 20.005). PB 2x2 single of 7.77. And two official 4x4 results of 2:03 and 1:48, an all time PB.
Just 5x5 left and I will not make hard cut probably. Although I came close once last night.
http://m.cubecomps.com/competitions/1482/events
At the KC comp today and pleased with results so far. 21.80 3x3 average with a 20.00 single (actually 20.005). PB 2x2 single of 7.77. And two official 4x4 results of 2:03 and 1:48, an all time PB.
Just 5x5 left and I will not make hard cut probably. Although I came close once last night.
http://m.cubecomps.com/competitions/1482/events
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mark49152
Premium Member
Congrats Jason, and belated good luck to everyone else competing this weekend! I can't keep up with this thread these days. I just checked cubecomps and saw that Grzegorz got 1:28 PB podium 3rd in 3BLD - awesome, congrats! 
Jason Green
Veteran
Yes congrats Grzegorz! Thanks Mark!
Not sure why 4x4 isn't showing, it was the first event today.
Not sure why 4x4 isn't showing, it was the first event today.
Logiqx
Veteran
Congrats! I think you'll be officially faster than me before I make it to another competition. hehe
newtonbase
Premium Member
Well done Grzegorz and Jason.
I got a spare G4 with my delivery today and it feels very different to my other one. Maybe I just don't realise how much I've broken the first one in.
I got a spare G4 with my delivery today and it feels very different to my other one. Maybe I just don't realise how much I've broken the first one in.
Logiqx
Veteran
Second timed Petrus session - 1/5/12/50:
30.581 36.949 38.699 42.147
30.581 36.949 38.699 42.147
Logiqx
Veteran
I've bought two cubes at once on several occasions. I often find they differ slightly... before and after breaking in.
Selkie
Premium Member
@newtonbase - I was considering buying a Qiyi Cavs and that sound like great shipping time to UK. I feel yet another order coming on as I also need a stickerless skewb
@Logiqx - Petrus is a good skill to have, especially for FMC. Learning Petrus, Heise and Comms is a huge stepping stone for FMC
@Jason Green , @h2f - Great results for the older cubers gents
@Logiqx - Petrus is a good skill to have, especially for FMC. Learning Petrus, Heise and Comms is a huge stepping stone for FMC
@Jason Green , @h2f - Great results for the older cubers gents
