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@Logiqx - I wonder what kind of practice did you do to make such a nice progress?

Ok. I don't think I have anything revolutionary to say about practice but I can tell you how my approach has changed and the effects I'm noticing. The past few days, I've been averaging low 17's which is 2-2.5 seconds faster than I was in January! My practice used to consist of an hour in my car during my lunchtime, 4-5 times a week. I used to do some causal solves at other times of day but I'd say 75-80% of my solves were timed and perhaps 20-25% we untimed.

Nowadays, I get to cube about an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening on the train but at least 75-80% of these solves are now untimed and at most 20-25% are timed. The untimed solves are all about "smooth turning" where my goal is to eliminate pauses and create the nicest possible flow and smoothest finger tricks for cross + F2L. I execute my LL algs at 60-70% normal speed to keep the noise to a minimum but I still aim to make them as smooth as possible and minimise pauses!

In a nutshell it's just what people call "slow turning" but I'm forcing myself to track the pieces moving around rather than relaxing and thinking "no need to concentrate at this speed". The net result is that my look ahead and tracking skills are rapidly improving and the speed that I can turn whilst still looking ahead and avoiding pauses is also increasing. I'm also developing some "know ahead" skills whereby I know where the pieces of the next F2L pair are going to land before I've finished the current pair. At the very least, I seem better at knowing where a corner will appear after solving the current F2L pair.

Another advantage of doing untimed solves is the ability to actually stop and consider alternative solutions. I'll sometimes unwind an F2L pair and try something different to see if it makes the next pair any better. If I see a missed opportunity for edge control during the final pair, I'll also go back and use a sledgehammer / whatever to get a more favourable OLL case. When I do something silly or miss opportunities, I make a mental note and try not to repeat it!

I'm putting more effort into my cross planning, eliminating rotations where possible and making them more finger-tricky. I used to incorporate u / u' into my cross a lot but I rarely use them now and use D / D' instead as they are more finger-tricky and I have a better idea about where everything is when I'm starting F2L. I still don't attempt to predict the first F2L pair during most solves but my improved cross planning / execution and general look-ahead skills mean that I often see the first pair during cross execution and transition to F2L without pausing.

I'm also changing a few of my OLLs and untimed solves are the ideal time to practice. There is no temptation to revert to my original alg when they crop up as the time does not matter!

TL-DR - Slow solving, deliberate practice.

I feel there is still a lot more improvement to be made using this approach and I also have a long list of other skills that I'm lacking; x-cross, advanced F2L, two-sided PLL recognition, AUF for all PLL cases, etc.
 
@Logiqx, Thank You. You wrote about things I was thinking in last time but in my case it's a beginning of the road. I just found slow turning makes me joy in cubing but I havent tried the things you wrote. Just slow and pausless. I'll try to implement things you wrote.
 
2 hours of practice a day? I'm turning the opposite of blue with envy. I'm on a mixed practice day in my training plan. My lunch break was spent fetching an outfit so my daughter could go to her forgotten school disco but I did manage to do 15 3x3 solves before my son woke up this evening and watched a keyhole pyraminx video in the bath.
3 days of 4x4 practice starts tomorrow.

We don't get much pyraminx talk here. Does anyone take it seriously? I find the different methods interesting but reasonable times seem very far off.
 
@newtonbase - just get the whole family in on the fun, then everyone cubes all the time!

And though I don't take pyraminx seriously, I do think it's fun. Never looked into anything besides Keyhole, but L4E looks cool.
 
Mike I was just thinking recently how I didn't hear as much about slow turning lately. Of course I was watching more videos on how to improve F2L back then so that's probably why. But I notice a lot of times my first solve of the day will be like 18, I think because I'm not rushing the turning and looking ahead a little. Overall my look ahead is really poor. When I really do it I can feel it and it's nice. I realize "hey there is my next corner or pair, and I'm still inserting this one!" It's almost a surprise still at this point when it happens right.

I do almost no untimed solves but I may start. I might look into better algs for some LL too. I think I may have chosen some based on what was easier to learn instead of what was fastest long term. Like learning a mirror case instead of something with more R U which I like. That would seem reasonable when I was overwhelmed with how much 78 algs is to learn, but seems silly now that I learned them. :)
 
@michael

Excellent post and really like you approach. There has been lots of talk of slow turning in the community but lots and lots of people have probably not implemented that to the same extent. I think I might try a half hour session a day on this. Whilst I do solve slowing in practice and alternate I do not do it as regimented as yourself. Great, great improvement. Very impressed.

More people should try slow turning, it is surprising what can be achieved. I know I posted this last year but there are some more regulars on the thread. This is a sub 19 average of 12 solves I filmed last year with slow turning throughout. You will notice there are still lots of pauses.

 
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Mike and Chris' slowturning is magical. Slow practice helped me to go sub 20. When I practice I also do 80% untimed and solve as slow and pause-less as possible. There is a sub 10 slow turning video of Feliks on a storebought Rubriks cube. Keep in mind that is all comes down to knowing all F2L (optimal) cases and recognise everything incl OLL, COLL and PLL way before executing.
 
I've cut my fingertip while fixing my home made camera head mount (it's attached to a "baseball" cap). I was going to film an ao5 now that I'm averaging less than the previous video I uploaded to youtube. I did manage to film a good average at the first try this time (a bit too good in fact, I was trying to get a 24.xx but I'll upload this 23.77 anyway), but it's the finger that makes M' moves (the cut is exactly where the finger touches the cube) and I can't cube well with a band aid so time for slow solves or megaminx.
 

For a few days now I'm using the Weilong again, it had a damaged spring, I've replaced them with Dayan springs and I like the cube more now, although it pops sometimes.

26.142 B2 D' B2 F2 R2 B2 F2 L2 U' L2 F2 R' B2 D' F' D2 F' R F' L2 F
23.919 R2 B2 U2 B2 D F2 U' L2 B2 L2 B2 R' U R U2 F D' L' B R' L2 U2
22.103 L2 F2 D2 U B2 D' B2 F2 R2 U' L U R D' R2 D2 F' D' U2 R' L2
24.271 B2 D R2 F2 R2 U' F2 U' L2 D2 R2 F D F R D' U R2 F U' L' U'
23.135 B2 U2 F2 D' L2 D L2 D2 R2 L2 D' F' L2 D2 U F' L' B R' F' R' U
 
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Ha ha. :) Here they all are:


Part of the reason why I have so many 3x3's is I picked up several Zhanchi's when starting cubing after taking some out-of-date advice. The Gans will probably get some more action in the future, but I need to tension it correctly and am at a stage where I'm comfortable with the Moyu's at the moment. There's also 4 really stiff, non-modifiable cubes in there from the super-early days.

You'll probably spot the Skewb is a bit of learning-in-progress. :)

Bonus points for the awesome AvP posters!
 
I picked up a 7x7, 6x6, and a sq1 last night on my way home from work. Which means I'm only a clock away from the ability to compete in all official events! Assuming I learn how to solve the sq1.

@newtonbase

I never cared much for Pyra or 2x2 before. But now that I've challenged myself to improve my sum. Pyra was an event that will make a big difference so I've taken it up. Honestly I found it difficult at first. Not because it's complicated but the shape makes Recog and all the visuals veeeeeery different so I spend half the solve searching. When staring I asked method advice from Louis Cormier and Antoine Cantin. They both told me to learn 1-flip. But keyhole is a nice precursor to that so I'm still using that. Until I'm able to start looking ahead. Hope that helps!
 
C'mon guys! Two pages while I was asleep? :)

@Michael: thanks for your post on slow solving. I should definitely do more untimed solves and less timed ones. It's good that you reminded me of that because I tend to forget from time to time.

@Mark (newtonbase): pyraminx is a lot of fun so please, feel free to talk about pyraminx here. I have learned keyhole, basic WO and LBL but I solve 99% of the time with keyhole. L4E, 1-flip and Nutella are in my to do list, as many other things. I'm not what you'd call fast at it (Ao100 around 14-15 seconds). I got a nice sub-5 single yesterday in the 1st weekly comp scramble, which was kind of silly, but I just have like a dozen sub-10 singles so, lots of room for improvement. Alberto (APdRF) was the guy that pushed me into solving pyra, watching his walkthrough solve videos was inspiring (he's the current Spanish champion of the event).

@David: Sorry that you hurt your finger. Not being able to cube is sad. I had a slightly sprained wrist for some days and it was (swear word here) :)

Talking about other things I have solved my new SS Gigaminx for the first time and it was so much fun. I thought I would have problems with pairing the two last tredges but either I was lucky or it's just the way it is and I got no parity on the last edge. As, obviously, the 5x5 alg would not work on a Gigaminx I wouldn't have known what to do in that case. The puzzle is so smooth for such a monster!!! Of course I don't think I'll ever try to speedsolve it, just casual solving. It took close to 1 hour :)

Also, I have taken over the Race to Sub 15 thread, as nobody was taking care of it lately. You are all welcome to participate.
 
The good thing about 1-flip is that you don't need to look ahead at all, just force yourself to do a good inspection and you are done :)

I'm still having a hard time planning 2 edge pieces during inspection lol once I find that easy I'll add the flipped edge and work on the next step too.
 
For a few days now I'm using the Weilong again, it had a damaged spring, I've replaced them with Dayan springs and I like the cube more now, although it pops sometimes.

Very nice. Hope your finger is on the mend soon :tu

I picked up a 7x7, 6x6, and a sq1 last night on my way home from work. Which means I'm only a clock away from the ability to compete in all official events! Assuming I learn how to solve the sq1.

@newtonbase

I never cared much for Pyra or 2x2 before. But now that I've challenged myself to improve my sum. Pyra was an event that will make a big difference so I've taken it up. Honestly I found it difficult at first. Not because it's complicated but the shape makes Recog and all the visuals veeeeeery different so I spend half the solve searching. When staring I asked method advice from Louis Cormier and Antoine Cantin. They both told me to learn 1-flip. But keyhole is a nice precursor to that so I'm still using that. Until I'm able to start looking ahead. Hope that helps!

I am ok on pyraminx but I find skewb difficult to plan much on during inspection but I have only been solving it less than a month. Square-1 is great fun, a twisty puzzle with a real difference. Lid is the 'faztest' mature solver of that :D

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Have to say the puzzle for me with the most recent improvement is 5x5. Just did an ao30 and think I can just about call myself sub 2:15. PBs for single, ao5 and ao12 in here too :)

number of times: 30/30
best time: 1:52.45
worst time: 2:29.22

current avg5: 2:09.80 (σ = 0.77)
best avg5: 2:09.57 (σ = 4.10)

current avg12: 2:15.87 (σ = 5.74)
best avg12: 2:11.00 (σ = 6.27)

session avg: 2:14.69 (σ = 5.21)
session mean: 2:14.17

2:14.58, 2:19.98, 1:52.45, 2:11.93, 2:06.25, 2:16.94, 2:14.15, 2:08.30, 1:56.48, 2:18.27, 2:11.34, 2:14.79, 2:21.22, 2:11.54, 2:09.00, 2:13.76, 2:22.82, 2:25.11, 2:25.13, 2:15.50, 2:29.22, 2:10.02, 2:21.21, 2:17.73, 2:20.68, 2:09.04, 2:08.32, 2:10.58, 2:18.99, 2:09.78
 
@selkie

Agreed on skewb. I currently try to plan for 1 or 2 corner atm. If im lucky I get both easily. My practice time is spread quite thin these days so skewb is going to take a casual back seat for now.

I haven't touched the sq1 yet. It looks scary lol

Nice progress on 5x5! I'm looking forward to gaining some ground on 4x4 and 5x5
 
Nice going Chris, not a single solve over the UK soft cut :)
Nice progress on 5x5! I'm looking forward to gaining some ground on 4x4 and 5x5
Well done Chris. Those are similar to my 4x4 times, but you've got relative consistency on top of that. Great.

Thanks all. Strange as I have not practiced 5x5 as much as some other puzzles but the MoYu Bochuang is a great cube

@Mark ... Funny you should mention that sir. After the post I decided to continue with the session as was on course for another possible PB Ao12 and got a 2:31 so stopped :D
 
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