Older cubers discussions

[ryuusei86]

Belated happy 800 page-i-versary!

I just got the second of two orders from cubezz. It contained a void cube and a 3x3x2, both by LanLan, and this thing which I had been quite excited about. I've restickered both LanLan puzzles and spent about 45 minutes solving the void cube, which I'd never have been able to do if I hadn't found an ancient thread on this forum about an edge parity fix. The 3x3x2 turns the best of all three puzzles. The "Super Square-1" is just weird and noisy, but perhaps it will grow on me. I was thinking that it might actually be easier to solve than a normal square-1, but perhaps I was wrong.

The FastTech order with three Dayan 3x3s (I think a ZhanChi, a LunHui, and a GuHong v1) is supposedly on its way and should be here any day now. I have yet to touch the Meffert's Fisher cube from the Cubicle and the 2x2x2 mirror blocks from the first cubezz order, because they frighten me.

 

[h2f]

Yeah memo is huge. Mine still accounts for >50% of solve time, typically. More like 60-70% on 4BLD.


Each OP corner takes me seconds with no pauses in between, so a corner comm has to be <5 seconds including thinking time, for it to be worthwhile for me. That's actually pretty difficult. I would need a huge amount of practice with comms for it to pay off. My plan is to introduce a few really easy/fast/obvious ones very slowly and blend them in with my OP (like for example using A-perm for UBR-UFR).

I agree with that point of view. My memo is between 30 - 50% of the solve.

 

[MarcelP]

Edit: That parcel contains my Tanlong Marcel, look forward to trying it after your endorsement :tu

My Tanglong was great out of the box, but after 1000 solves or so became smoother and faster.. So... hang in there..

 

[mafergut]

My Tanglong was great out of the box, but after 1000 solves or so became smoother and faster.. So... hang in there..

My Tanglong is also growing on me with every solve. After I beat my PB Ao50 & 100 last week with it I have declared it my new main, even on top of my beloved Chilong
This week, during my commute I have been breaking in my Yuexiao. It's very nice and all that but I still prefer the Tanglong. I will have to break in the Tornado as well but, for now I don't particularly like its feeling. Too similar to the Yuxin 3x3 for my taste it deforms due to the enormous holes between pieces and also tends to release with a bit too much force when corner cutting (not sure if I can explain this well but when you try to cut it looks like it won't turn, then you force it a bit and then bam! it turns and it completely breaks the flow of the alg).

 

[muchacho]

Mine was slow, and a bit catchy.. well, maybe that was because of my bad turning accuracy... but it was definitely slow for me (especially M moves), and it didn't become faster with solves... I'll try it again.

 

[mafergut]

Mine was slow, and a bit catchy.. well, maybe that was because of my bad turning accuracy... but it was definitely slow for me (especially M moves), and it didn't become faster with solves... I'll try it again.

Yeah, it's definitely on the slow side and M slices may not be the best out there so, for Roux it's perhaps not the ideal cube but it's so stable... so, for me it compensates that. Regarding the catching it completely went away after some hundreds of solves.

 

[Selkie]

The star of the show is the Guoguan Yuexiao. (Does the name remind anyone else of Father Ted?) It had me at the first turn. The feel and the sound are luscious. It's easily the nicest cube I've ever held. There are issues with controllability and catching but a little practice and an Older Çuber (was MarcelP) mod should sort that...

I completely agree, it had me at the first turn too and as a 3x3 I 'prefer' it to anything else, I just cannot solve as fast on it as my Gans 356 v1

My Tanglong was great out of the box, but after 1000 solves or so became smoother and faster.. So... hang in there..

My Tanglong is also growing on me with every solve.

My Tanglong should be here with my Cubicle order today, Im looking forward to solving on it :tu

Edit: No parcel today

 

[muchacho]

For the megaminx I'm starting to build pairs instead of inserting one piece at a time, how should I approach this? just (really) slow solves trying to match the pieces intuitively? would help trying to learn it first on a 3x3? any tips?

 

[Selkie]

For the megaminx I'm starting to build pairs instead of inserting one piece at a time, how should I approach this? just (really) slow solves trying to match the pieces intuitively? would help trying to learn it first on a 3x3? any tips?

I used the same F2L algorythms on Megaminx, well sort of but don't take my word for it, never was very good at Megaminx

 

[kbrune]

Are you all from eastern countries? I know Marcel is. Seems like there isn't much activity when I post. Then I wake up in the morning and I'm 2-3 pages behind in dialogue lol. I'm in Canada btw

@muchacho
I solve everything up to LL with pairs. Although middle layer would be pair plus 1 edge I suppose. I'm new at mega though so I'm sure I'm no where near optimal solving. My pb is 5:57.xx

 

[muchacho]

I think I'll go through all the F2L algs and see what each one does, it may be the faster way.

Almost sub-4 single: 4:01

I'm liking megaminx, I'll try to get "fast"... what I don't like is the Yuhu, I'm buying a Shengshou and I'll try to mod it.

Are you all from eastern countries? I know Marcel is. Seems like there isn't much activity when I post. Then I wake up in the morning and I'm 2-3 pages behind in dialogue lol. I'm in Canada btw

@muchacho
I solve everything up to LL with pairs. Although middle layer would be pair plus 1 edge I suppose. I'm new at mega though so I'm sure I'm no where near optimal solving. My pb is 5:57.xx

Not all, but I think there are more from Europe.

My problem with making pairs is that I use Roux, I've never learned CFOP (so also no F2L), it's a bit different, it will take me some time to "master" F2L on the megaminx.

 

[Isaac Lai]

I think I'll go through all the F2L algs and see what each one does, it may be the faster way.

Almost sub-4 single: 4:01

I'm liking megaminx, I'll try to get "fast"... what I don't like is the Yuhu, I'm buying a Shengshou and I'll try to mod it.


Not all, but I think there are more from Europe.

My problem with making pairs is that I use Roux, I've never learned CFOP (so also no F2L), it's a bit different, it will take me some time to "master" F2L on the megaminx.

Some algs need not necessarily done the same way on megaminx as on 3x3 because you can use more layers on the megaminx to solve pairs more efficiently. Also, Artur Kristof uses Roux and is sub-1 on megaminx.

 

[muchacho]

Thanks Isaac!

 

[mafergut]

For the megaminx I'm starting to build pairs instead of inserting one piece at a time, how should I approach this? just (really) slow solves trying to match the pieces intuitively? would help trying to learn it first on a 3x3? any tips?

I'd recommend you to start intuitively and, if you find it difficult you can always watch intuitive 3x3 F2L tutorials like badmephisto or others. You will soon get the hang of the basic cases that can appear on a Megaminx.

 

[h2f]

Some algs need not necessarily done the same way on megaminx as on 3x3 because you can use more layers on the megaminx to solve pairs more efficiently. Also, Artur Kristof uses Roux and is sub-1 on megaminx.

Artur Kristof used CFOP before he switched Roux. And he was good at it.

 

[muchacho]

ok, I'll try to do it intuitively at first, but I'm pretty sure I'll cheat sooner or later.

 

[MarcelP]

Edit: No parcel today

I unboxed the GuanSu 4x4 and TangPo 2x2. It was a bit out of frame so I am not uploading it. Both seem great cubes.

 

[kbrune]

@muchacho

Makes sense! F2L pairing is the only reason I can solve a megaminx. Was any of roux transferable for you?

 

[mafergut]

I think I'll go through all the F2L algs and see what each one does, it may be the faster way.

Almost sub-4 single: 4:01

I'm liking megaminx, I'll try to get "fast"... what I don't like is the Yuhu, I'm buying a Shengshou and I'll try to mod it.

My problem with making pairs is that I use Roux, I've never learned CFOP (so also no F2L), it's a bit different, it will take me some time to "master" F2L on the megaminx.

ok, I'll try to do it intuitively at first, but I'm pretty sure I'll cheat sooner or later.

Yeah, you definitely should start with intuitive F2L as most algs will not directly transfer to Megaminx, so I don't think you will be able to cheat even if you wanted to

You are now faster than me. My PB single continues to be the 4:04 I got last week but, of course, I still have to solve this week's comp scrambles and maybe some warm-up ones, so I'm really expecting my first sub-4 soon.

I unboxed the GuanSu 4x4 and TangPo 2x2. It was a bit out of frame so I am not uploading it. Both seem great cubes.

Tell us about the GuanSu. Mine is starting to break in but my solves are still not fluid. It's lighter to turn (less resistance) than my AoSu but it still catches a bit more, even though I loosened it a bit.

Regarding the TangPo I have heard that it is just a LingPo with bigger stickers but with the same internal catches as that one (and the YuPo). But very recently YJ has released ANOTHER 2x2, the GuanPo and if it is as good value for money as the GuanSu I think I will try it. It's less than $3 in cubezz and zcube. I'll get one with my next order but I don't think it will retire my dayan.

 

[muchacho]

@muchacho

Makes sense! F2L pairing is the only reason I can solve a megaminx. Was any of roux transferable for you?

Not much I suppose, in Roux I make pairs, but using the middle layer (a lot). It feels weird, but I'll be fine.

Yeah, you definitely should start with intuitive F2L as most algs will not directly transfer to Megaminx, so I don't think you will be able to cheat even if you wanted to

You are now faster than me. My PB single continues to be the 4:04 I got last week but, of course, I still have to solve this week's comp scrambles and maybe some warm-up ones, so I'm really expecting my first sub-4 soon.

I'm at 4:30 on average, I stopped solving the megaminx just two days, I like it too much, I wanted to try 5x5 but it'll have to wait.

I've just watched badmephisto F2L videos, that's enough for a start.