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[EvilGnome6]

My best attempts from AZCubing Winter 2016.

In order of the events of the day:

5x5: 2:15.60 (Yuxin 5x5)
2x2: 5.11 (MoYu LingPo)
3x3: 20.05 (QiYi Thunderclap)
4x4: 1:14.20 (Cyclone Boys G4)
3x3 OH: 40.35 (MoYu Mini WeiLong)

 

[Jason Green]

My best attempts from AZCubing Winter 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-b02tTFRDg

In order of the events of the day:

5x5: 2:15.60 (Yuxin 5x5)
2x2: 5.11 (MoYu LingPo)
3x3: 20.05 (QiYi Thunderclap)
4x4: 1:14.20 (Cyclone Boys G4)
3x3 OH: 40.35 (MoYu Mini WeiLong)

Good job Mike! The venue looks nice, I really want to come out some time.

 

[Selkie]

That 16.216 is my new PB, not sub-Jason but happy to beat my previous one (it was 16.328 from Dec 4th), but I can't reconstruct it past the first block

Very Nice

I made it through AZCubing Winter 2016 in one piece.]

Some great results

Also Raúl (moralsh) got some PBs: http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=1402&compid=28

That 4x4BLD is good, congrats!

Wow some great results this weekend :tu

Got my 1st success at 3BLD for the WC. I don't know whether to be happy or ashamed because the time was above 17 minutes

Time does matter its a great achievement

@Chris: What method do you use for SQ-1 cube shape?.

Nothing very scientific I am afraid, I know a few cases and use intuitive but complicated cases can take me 10-15 seconds so I really should learn the cases in time. The link you posted looks good :tu

@Miguel, I found this viedo to be helpfull: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkvl1xQhTu0&index=14&list=PLJ1BFt1hZm2pzkDBx-KvOVnuOpX9zOfNN

I know case 1 and 2 from your list.

Yeah helpful video

 

[EvilGnome6]

Good job Mike! The venue looks nice, I really want to come out some time.

The venue was really classy. It was way beyond my expectations. I will give you a heads-up as soon as we set the next date.

 

[Lid]

@Chris: What method do you use for SQ-1 cube shape?

Nothing very scientific I am afraid, I know a few cases and use intuitive but complicated cases can take me 10-15 seconds so I really should learn the cases in time. The link you posted looks good :tu

I can recommend Brandon Lin's video, but most of all do alot of solves, and all cases should sooner or later be easy to solve optimally. And I don't see them as algs, more like paths. And practice^3 of cause. (Also Check the link in my sign.)

 

[mafergut]

I can recommend Brandon Lin's video, but most of all do alot of solves, and all cases should sooner or later be easy to solve optimally. And I don't see them as algs, more like paths. And practice^3 of cause. (Also Check the link in my sign.)

Thanks for your feedback. By the way, the links for SQ-1 EP/Shape on your sig do not work.

 

[newtonbase]

Got my 1st success at 3BLD for the WC. I don't know whether to be happy or ashamed because the time was above 17 minutes

Be very, very happy. It's a great achievement that most cubers, never mind real people, never manage. Times are irrelevant at this stage.

Did you not feel happy? I was ecstatic. Same as 1st solve, first sub 1 min and first (and only) multi.

 

[mafergut]

Be very, very happy. It's a great achievement that most cubers, never mind real people, never manage. Times are irrelevant at this stage.

Did you not feel happy? I was ecstatic. Same as 1st solve, first sub 1 min and first (and only) multi.

Yeah, I felt happy but also I realized the amount of work needed to get better (learn a proper edge method, as this was done with OP, improve my tracing, my memo...). In fact I had a success like 2 years ago but it was untimed and the scramble was fairly easy and it probably took like half an hour. This one had parity, one twisted corner, two flipped edges and, if I remember correctly two corner cycles and two edge cycles... just saying all this I'm feeling even happier

 

[Lid]

Thanks for your feedback. By the way, the links for SQ-1 EP/Shape on your sig do not work.

Links fixed!

 

[Selkie]

I can recommend Brandon Lin's video, but most of all do alot of solves, and all cases should sooner or later be easy to solve optimally. And I don't see them as algs, more like paths. And practice^3 of cause. (Also Check the link in my sign.)

Heh thanks Lid. I just got sub 40 in the last couple of weeks on Square-1 and should really invest some time to improve. I will take a look at those resources and try and learn some more after Exeter comp in 4 weeks :tu

 

[moralsh]

Thanks again guys, and also congrats to Miguel Ángel for making the first of many successes and to Mike for organizing the first of many competitions and surviving

I might have the 1:50 BLD on video but nothing else, I really should start recording on and off comps. 29 OH single was a pauseless F2L, T with blocks OLL and an A PLL I'll try to get the scramble and reconstruct. Doing mega on the comp was inspired by the race in this thread I'll try to push it to sub 3 this summer if I get some time and a good Mega xD but 4:01 is quite Ok for me right now

3BLD was my first podium on the event and my worst round lately, I think the pressure to win made me underperform, last scramble should have been a 1:20, I wouldn't have won either way, but it would have been nice

I need to relearn SQ1 and maybe try an all events relay (all but feet, I mean xD)

 

[newtonbase]

Yeah, I felt happy but also I realized the amount of work needed to get better (learn a proper edge method, as this was done with OP, improve my tracing, my memo...). In fact I had a success like 2 years ago but it was untimed and the scramble was fairly easy and it probably took like half an hour. This one had parity, one twisted corner, two flipped edges and, if I remember correctly two corner cycles and two edge cycles... just saying all this I'm feeling even happier

That's a tricky scramble well done.

I have a couple of blind questions. I currently use OP corners and treat twisted corners as 2 targets. That's a lot of moves. How do you guys deal with these?

Also, commutators. Is there a decent written guide out there? I've watched all I can find on YouTube and still don't properly understand them. People rave about Noah but I don't think we're on the same wavelength.

 

[h2f]

For twisted corners try a trick like R U R' U' twice, next L' nexe U R U' R' twice and L. Do it inverserly, do it with setup F, undo setup etc. just play around. It's hard to me describe fully that trick but I use it a lot. For comms - if you want list of algs I got couple of them linked for DF and UF buffer. Have you seen Noah's series about transition to 3style?

 

[newtonbase]

For twisted corners try a trick like R U R' U' twice, next L' nexe U R U' R' twice and L. Do it inverserly, do it with setup F, undo setup etc. just play around. It's hard to me describe fully that trick but I use it a lot. For comms - if you want list of algs I got couple of them linked for DF and UF buffer. Have you seen Noah's series about transition to 3style?

Thanks. I'll play around with them. I do have lists of algorithms and I'll look at yours but I really wanted to get a proper understanding of the rules behind comms. I've seen Noah's series but I struggle with them. I had trouble with his M2 stuff too.

 

[Lid]

After all this Sq1 talk I did an avg of 50.

number of times: 50/50
number of parities: 25 = 50.0%
best time: 12.746
worst time: 27.567

best avg5: 17.887 (σ = 2.19)
best avg12: 19.196 (σ = 2.08)
current avg50: 19.945 (σ = 2.19)

Spoiler: Times

18.506, 19.451, 22.175, 22.655, 26.008[p], 18.470, 16.419, 24.113[p], 21.634[p], 18.608, 15.979, 22.292[p], 20.381, 18.878, 24.632[p], 19.813[p], 20.514[p], 18.347[p], 27.567[p], 19.811, 12.746, 15.504, 18.714, 24.841, 20.438[p], 19.858[p], 15.541, 22.386[p], 20.500[p], 19.657[p], 20.115, 20.057[p], 17.669, 15.901, 20.623[p], 21.590[p], 20.309, 14.343, 24.713[p], 18.307, 19.964[p], 22.391[p], 17.817, 23.253[p], 20.144[p], 19.987[p], 17.700, 18.620, 18.792[p], 19.855[p]

Spoiler: Best time + solution

12.746 (3, 5) / (3, 0) / (-5, -5) / (2, -4) / (1, -2) / (6, -1) / (3, 0) / (2, 0) / (1, 0) / (3, -2) / (-4, 0) / (0, -4)

z2 -2,-2/2,0/1,0/-4,0/3,0/ :: CS
-2,0/0,3/3,-3/-1,-1/ :: CO+EO
0,6/-3,0/3,3/0,-3/ :: CP (JJ)
/1,1/3,0/-1,-1/3,0/1,1/-4,-3 (Z/-)

 

[mark49152]

Congrats to both.

@Raul: Nice 4BLD result, that's a big jump from last PB. Good job!

@Mike D: Great job on all the PBs and I note you've edged past me in the elderly rankings for 4x4 average, which gives me a bit of extra motivation for my April comp

 

[h2f]

Thanks. I'll play around with them. I do have lists of algorithms and I'll look at yours but I really wanted to get a proper understanding of the rules behind comms. I've seen Noah's series but I struggle with them. I had trouble with his M2 stuff too.

You are on a good way - comms need to be understood. What problem with M2 do you have?

 

[ryuusei86]

Wow, like 40 more pages have been added since I last posted. I don't want to lower the level of conversation too much, so suffice it to say my collection has grown a bit after deliveries from Cubicle and Cubezz. The Cubicle delivery contained a Fisher cube and three 3x3s: a GuanLong, a Thunderclap, and a YuXin Fire. Oddly I liked the GuanLong the best! I hadn't felt anything quite so light and airy yet. The Thunderclap was every bit as good as everyone here says, but I prefer my Cyclone Boys 3x3 now that I've solved its problems. I'm returning the two 3x3s to the Cubicle, which I know is a bit silly but I do have three DaYan 3x3s on the way from elsewhere.

The Cubezz order contained a Shengshou Skewb (which along with the Fisher cube I haven't played much with yet), a GuanSu (which is amazing and beats my Cyclone Boys 4x4, which in turn is quite decent after sticking with it as many of you advised me), and a cheap YJ YuPo (which was, in a word, awful until I disassembled it, removed the flash from the core, and reassembled and retensioned it). There is also a clock puzzle and 2x2 mirror blocks, which turn nicely but again I have yet to play much with it.

I am still working on the Roux method and am sure I'll have a breakthrough on the last six edges if I keep at it. Up until then it makes tons of sense to me.

 

[mafergut]

For twisted corners try a trick like R U R' U' twice, next L' nexe U R U' R' twice and L. Do it inverserly, do it with setup F, undo setup etc. just play around. It's hard to me describe fully that trick but I use it a lot. For comms - if you want list of algs I got couple of them linked for DF and UF buffer. Have you seen Noah's series about transition to 3style?

Woah! Nice! So this twists the corner at UFL cw (and the buffer at UBL ccw). So with a setup of the twisted corner to UFL and this alg or its inverse... voilà! Thanks a lot. I will try to use this next time. Of course, saving some seconds off my 17 minutes solves might not seem much right now but every bit counts. In my success from yesterday (the 3rd 3BLD scramble in the WC) the twisted corner was UFL so "setup" couldn't be easier If in understand this correctly this must be done at the end, when the buffer already holds the correct corner (but maybe twisted or not, depending on how many other twisted corners and directions remain), right?

Wow, like 40 more pages have been added since I last posted. [...] Oddly I liked the GuanLong the best! I hadn't felt anything quite so light and airy yet.

We are a very active community. If you go offline for some days that's what you should expect The Guanlong feels nice and stable but it's a bit too slow and soft plastic so, in the end my times with it were not great.

 

[h2f]

Woah! Nice! So this twists the corner at UFL cw (and the buffer at UBL ccw). So with a setup of the twisted corner to UFL and this alg or its inverse... voilà! Thanks a lot. I will try to use this next time. Of course, saving some seconds off my 17 minutes solves might not seem much right now but every bit counts. In my success from yesterday (the 3rd 3BLD scramble in the WC) the twisted corner was UFL so "setup" couldn't be easier If in understand this correctly this must be done at the end, when the buffer already holds the correct corner (but maybe twisted or not, depending on how many other twisted corners and directions remain), right?

Yes, I do it in the end. And almost always I twist coner and a buffer. But the main thing is that every rotation inverses the twist. I mean if you need to twist DFL and and the at the F (I mean in my color scheme white is at FDL) I need to do setup F. This means that instead doing U R etc. I start with RU (inverse of previous). This rule is also applied to x/y/z rotations. I dont know if my explanation is clear?

For UFL twist you dont need setup if the buffer is UBL.