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So nice, Raúl! Good luck today! I will have to just do Weekly Comp :p
The idea of organising a comp in Valladolid is not taking off for now, but one day I will go to Madrid for the real deal :)
 
Missed 4BLD PB by 0.05 with 10:01.45. Had to undo a mistake mid-execution, so not only could it have been PB, but also sub-10! Argh! Also had a couple of DNFs at 7/8 mins so definitely getting faster, although my success rate is still ~20%.

Also had a 35 minute 5BLD DNF by two swapped wings! Argh again!

Edit: Finally! 8:58 - first sub-10 is sub-9, yay! :D
 
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MarcelP said:
sub 18 Ao50 in there,, That is pretty cool ;)
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Sub-18 Ao100 today. :)

Generated By csTimer on 2016-2-28
solves/total: 100/100

single
best: 10.56
worst: 22.91

mean of 3
current: 17.37 (σ = 2.18)
best: 15.25 (σ = 4.06)

avg of 5
current: 17.27 (σ = 2.05)
best: 16.39 (σ = 0.56)

avg of 12
current: 17.53 (σ = 1.74)
best: 17.05 (σ = 0.77)

avg of 50
current: 17.68 (σ = 1.50)
best: 17.68 (σ = 1.50)

avg of 100
current: 17.92 (σ = 1.45)
best: 17.92 (σ = 1.45)

Average: 17.92 (σ = 1.45)
Mean: 17.91

Time List:
1. 18.94 U' B2 R2 U' B2 U' R2 U L2 D B U F' L D' R' F2 D' U L'
2. 18.64 D2 U2 B2 D2 U2 R2 F D2 R2 F2 U' B U B2 U' L' R2 D F2
3. 18.74 L' B2 R2 D' F2 U2 B2 L2 R2 D' F2 U2 B L' F L B2 R' F' U2 B'
4. 14.73 F' U2 L2 B' L2 R2 D2 F D2 F' R2 L F2 L2 R B L' R F2 U' L2
5. 15.13 U' D2 B2 D2 L' F2 L' F2 D2 L' D B2 F U' F R D' L' F
6. 20.13 D2 B2 D' L2 F2 U' F2 U' L2 B2 U' B F R' F' R' B2 U L B R'
7. 20.78 U2 D' F D2 R B D L U F2 U2 F L2 D2 F2 D2 B' L2 B U2
8. 16.98 F2 D' B2 L2 D2 L2 R2 F2 U F2 U' B' L' F2 D' B' D2 B' L' D2
9. 16.48 L2 R2 U' L2 F2 D L2 B2 F2 D2 U' L D2 U' B L F D' B F2 R2
10. 17.17 L2 U L D F' B' L' F' R D' R2 B L2 F2 R2 B' D2 B U2 L2
11. 18.72 U2 R' B2 D2 R' F2 U2 R D2 L D' B' D L2 D R B D B2 R'
12. 18.82 L2 F2 L2 B' F2 U2 L2 F U2 F' D R D2 U R2 B' R U L R2
13. 18.90 L2 F' R2 B' D2 F' U2 F D2 B L F' D R' U' F R' U2 R2 B
14. 18.74 B2 U F2 U2 L2 U B2 D2 B2 L2 U' F' R2 U2 R2 U2 B L F' D' U'
15. 16.16 R2 U B2 U' B2 U B2 F2 R2 D' U' B F2 L F' R B2 U L' R' U'
16. 18.27 U2 F2 R2 B R2 F' U2 F L2 F' L2 R' D L2 U' B F U2 F' D R2
17. 16.35 D' F2 D F2 D' R2 F2 D2 R2 F' R' U2 B' R' B2 D2 U' L D'
18. 20.49 D F L' B D2 L U L' U F2 R2 F2 U' F2 U F2 L2 D'
19. 17.61 U2 B F D2 L2 F2 L2 U2 B D2 F' D L B L' U L D2 U2 B2 L2
20. 20.13 B2 L2 B' L2 B' D2 L2 R2 B' D2 F2 D' L2 R' F' U B U2 L' F2 D2
21. 17.31 L' D F2 D2 B2 L2 B2 U R2 B2 F2 D L D' B2 L2 F D' L' B2 D2
22. 16.22 R' F2 U2 R D2 B2 F2 L' U2 F2 U2 B' L' B' R2 F D R U' B2
23. 16.86 B2 F2 L' D2 B2 R2 B2 R2 F2 R U2 B' R2 D F2 U R' F L F' L
24. 16.86 L2 F2 U' B2 U R2 U2 L2 U B2 U' F' L2 R D' F2 L D F L F2
25. 17.67 D U2 B2 L2 B2 U' F2 L2 U' B2 L' D F' L' R' B' U2 B F2
26. 20.01 R F2 D B U L B U' R' F2 L F2 R' B2 D2 L2 F2 R D2 B
27. 17.49 U B' L2 D2 U2 B' U2 B2 L2 R B' L B U B' F2 L' F2
28. 18.97 B' U2 L2 F U2 F' U2 F D2 B2 U2 L B' U B2 R F' L R2
29. 17.11 U2 R' D2 R2 B2 L F2 U2 R B2 R' D' F L' U B2 U2 R2 B' R2
30. 19.95 U2 F2 U' L2 U2 F2 L2 D U' B R' D U' F2 D2 B U2 L' D'
31. 14.89 F' B2 R2 B' D2 B' D' F U2 R D2 R' U2 R2 U2 R2 B2 U2 R' U'
32. 18.77 R2 U F2 B2 R B' D' F' R U2 F2 B2 L2 B D2 F R2 L2 B' U2
33. 17.46 U' L2 D L2 F2 D' F2 U2 F2 U2 R' F2 U R' B F' R U F' L'
34. 21.34 F2 B R' D L F2 U B U2 L' U' L2 F2 U2 D B2 R2 D' L2
35. 15.91 D2 L U2 B2 U2 R2 B2 L' F2 U' R F R' B' D L' B' R' U'
36. 19.36 D F2 L' B' R B2 L' U L B' D2 F' L2 B2 U2 D2 B' R2 U2
37. 17.32 U L D2 R U' L D' L' D2 B D L2 B2 R2 U' L2 U' D2 B2 L2
38. 16.45 F2 D2 L F2 R' U2 R' B2 D2 B2 D' L D' L' B' F D' F2 L2 D'
39. 19.50 B2 L' B2 U2 F L' U L2 D U2 L2 F L2 U2 F' B2 D2 F' U2 R2
40. 21.23 F' L2 D2 R2 F L2 F' U2 F2 L2 R B2 D' B' L' U L' R2 D L'
41. 18.10 R' B2 L' U2 R' D2 U2 R' U2 D B F' R D' L' D2 U R2 F2
42. 15.98 F' U2 B2 U' R2 B2 U L2 D2 U' F U2 R' U' L' U F2 L2 D2
43. 18.23 U L2 D2 B2 L2 D2 B2 U2 F' R2 B L' U' F' D L R B' U2 F
44. 18.94 F2 B' R D' R' L F U' B2 D2 L' B2 L2 B2 L' U2 B2 U2 L
45. 17.92 F2 L2 B' L2 B' U2 L2 B2 L2 B' F' D' R' D2 U' L B F D F2 L'
46. 19.98 D' F2 D2 L2 B2 F' R2 F' D2 B L' D' B' L2 B2 F L2 D'
47. 18.99 D L B' U D B2 U2 R2 B U D2 R D2 R2 B2 L' D2 R U2 B2
48. 19.36 R B2 D2 F R2 F L2 D2 B D2 F2 L' D B2 D F L' U2 L2 D2
49. 18.31 B2 L B D' R2 B2 R' U L' B' U2 R2 U2 F2 L2 D2 B D2 B
50. 18.70 R' B2 U2 R2 B2 U2 L2 F' U2 F' D2 F L B' L' R F2 U' F' R U
51. 17.28 R2 F2 R' D2 L2 B2 U2 R' D2 L' R' U' F' D' B U2 L R D F
52. 15.97 R D' R2 F2 U' R2 B2 R2 B2 D2 F2 U R' B L B L D' R2 D' F
53. 19.63 R B' L2 D R U B' D2 L' R2 U2 D2 F' R2 B2 D2 F2 B' L2 B2
54. 22.91 F' D2 F U2 B2 F' R2 U2 B2 L' F' U' B2 R2 D' R F' L2 R
55. 18.58 F2 D2 L2 D2 L2 U2 B2 F U2 L2 B' L' B R U R2 D F' D2 L F2
56. 15.75 D' L2 B2 U' L2 U F2 L2 D L2 D' B L F U F U2 B' D' L2 B2
57. 16.80 R2 B' R2 F2 L2 B' D2 U2 F U2 B' U B L B L2 B2 F' D' F R'
58. 16.62 L2 R2 U2 B2 D F2 L2 R2 U' L2 D' L D2 R' B2 L F' D2 L2 R' F'
59. 16.83 D2 L2 F L2 F R2 F L2 D2 B2 R2 L D2 R D' B' F2 R D2 B2 L'
60. 14.77 L2 U' R D' L2 D2 F U L2 D F2 D R2 D2 R2 D L2 F2
61. 19.75 F' L2 F2 D2 B' R2 F2 L2 F' U2 R2 D L R F L2 B' R D' B' R
62. 19.69 B2 U2 L' D' F2 L2 D B' D L2 B L2 F' L2 D2 B U2 F2 U2 D2
63. 19.78 D2 B2 L2 U2 R B2 U2 L U2 B2 R2 F' D U' B D' R' D2 F R2 D2
64. 20.50 U' R2 D2 U2 L' B2 L B2 R' B2 R2 U2 F' U' B U' L' D' L2 U' L'
65. 16.76 F2 L' D2 R2 U2 R F2 U2 R2 F R' B U' R' B2 F2 D' U
66. 17.85 D2 F2 L2 F2 L' D2 B2 L' U2 B2 U2 D' R2 F L2 B' D U2 F R F2
67. 16.56 R2 B F2 L2 U2 R2 D2 R2 B F2 L2 R D2 B F' D2 B D' R2 B R'
68. 16.48 L D' R F' L U R2 U B' D2 F2 U2 R2 B R2 B' R2 U2
69. 18.69 F' U R U2 R' D2 B' U L U L2 D' F2 R2 D L2 D B2 D2 F
70. 16.51 U B2 R2 D2 U L2 U F2 D' F R2 F2 U2 L D' U L' R2 B'
71. 17.87 U' R F' B2 U' B2 U D2 L' U' L2 F B' L2 F D2 L2 B D2 B'
72. 18.30 R U2 B' F L2 B' F2 U2 L2 U2 L2 D' R' B U F2 R' U F
73. 16.12 D' R' L2 D2 F' U' L F D F2 D2 B2 U2 B2 L2 F' U2 R2 D2 F
74. 17.58 D L D2 F2 L' D2 R F2 U2 R' F2 D' L F' U R B R2 D U' R2
75. 16.47 U' L2 U R2 U2 L2 D L B D' B U' F D' L2 B' R'
76. 15.76 B' L2 U2 L2 D R2 D' R2 F2 D B F U' R D' U' L' D U
77. 21.62 U' L2 F' D2 R2 B R2 F' U2 L2 D2 F' U' L R B2 U L2 F R2 U
78. 16.95 L2 F2 U' B2 U' B2 D2 F2 D' F' U' F2 U L R' F2 D2 F R'
79. 15.98 U' F L2 B' R2 F' R2 B2 D2 B' L2 D2 U' L U2 F' L' B' L' F2 D
80. 20.60 B' F' R2 F' U2 F' U2 L2 F2 U2 R2 D' B' F' U' R2 U F' R' D U'
81. 18.75 L2 F' L B2 L2 F' B R2 U' L2 U2 R2 B' D2 F2 R2 U2 L2 B
82. 14.36 U' B2 U' B2 U R2 D2 B2 R2 B' D' U' L' U2 R U2 B L
83. 19.63 R L2 B2 F U2 R2 F' U2 F' L2 D2 F L' B' D U F D' L' D' F2
84. 16.71 R2 B' D2 B R2 D2 B D2 R2 F' U' B2 R D U' F' D' L B2 R'
85. 18.34 L' B L2 B' L F B R D' L F2 L2 U' B2 L2 U2 L2 U2 B2
86. 16.26 B' D2 R2 B2 U' L2 F2 U' B2 U' B2 L2 B' D2 U' R F2 U' L F
87. 18.44 L F2 D' B L' B R' L2 D B' L2 B' U2 F R2 F U2 D2 F' U2 R'
88. 18.38 U2 L' B2 R' F' D' R' L F U2 F2 U D F2 R2 F2 U R2 U'
89. 17.64 U' B' L2 R2 B2 D2 B U2 F' L2 R' B2 L U' L' B2 L2 D R
90. 10.56 U' L2 R2 B2 U B2 D2 L2 U' F2 R' U R D U' F2 R' B' F' R2
91. 17.53 R F' B R' U' R B2 L' F U2 D2 R L F2 L' D2 F2 U2 L'
92. 17.88 D B2 D' L2 D2 B2 D' R2 F2 L2 R' D L B' U2 B2 U B' F2
93. 16.43 F' D2 L B R' F B' D U2 L2 B U2 L2 F2 R2 B L2 F D2 U'
94. 19.85 D' B F2 L2 F D2 U2 B' U' R' F2 U L' B D2 B2 R2
95. 21.94 U' F2 B D' R' B2 R L D' R' L2 F L2 B' U2 B R2 B D2 B2 R2
96. 19.17 D B2 R2 D' L2 D F2 R2 U L2 U L' U' L2 F U L R' B' U' L2
97. 14.65 D' U2 L2 R2 B L2 U2 R2 U2 B F' R' U' F2 L R B' D' U B'
98. 19.44 L2 F' D2 B2 D2 F' R2 B F2 D2 F' L' B2 D2 R D' R' B L2 B'
99. 17.55 U2 F U2 B' D2 B' D2 L2 U2 R D' U B L R2 B D' F' R
100. 15.10 D B2 U B2 L2 R2 D2 L2 D' L2 D' L D' B U B2 R F' U B2 U2

Nice Ao12 on camera... 17.05:

 
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@Michael

A nice single, despite the +2 and a lovely consistent average. Your turning style seems so effortless. I like the way you adapt TPS to maintain look ahead :tu



Still no news on the dispatch on my large Cubicle order but I did notice that the UK Cube Store is now stocking the Guoguan Yuexiao so I have ordered one from there too. I may very well have a spare Yuexiao at Exeter if anyone wants one as I am very likely going to replace the UK bought one with the Cubicle premium one when it is delivered. Hmm, might have a spare 2 as I just recall ordering a stickerless one as well from Cubicle Haha.

Will definitely do an unboxing video for that Cubicle order but it will be my first so will apologise in advance if I mess it up :D
 
I'm Physically and mentally exhausted. Organizing a 2 day comp is demanding you can't stop doing things on the Venue and off the venue. I'm glad it's over and I'm sorry it's over. Now a little recap:

2x2: never practice, but the least you can do with a R U2 R' face + sune + U is a 3.68 :) the rest can be forgotten quietly
3x3: No real practice, not good but not so bad, an 18 PLL skip yesterday and a 16 full step today
4x4: broke my average PB twice in 2 rounds and almost sub 1:20 almost as close to that as my 3x3 avg PB is to sub 20 :p
5x5: sub 3 average and sub 2:30 single, quite happy with that. I had 2 center pops, fortunately on the same solve :)
6x6: Messed up a sub 5:30 by doing the last edge parity wrong, after redoing last 4 centers and edges, I had the same parity again, and the OLL and PLL ones. You can guess what solve it was :P. Very happy with the mean
7x7: I would have agreed to a sub 9, was hoping for a low 8 average and got a sub 8 one. Very, very happy
Skewb: results all over the place, Need to practice it or stop registering :p
OH: 41 average and 37 single, not good, not bad

Blind

Multi: had no time to even attempt it
3BLD: I forgot one edge target, that kept me from doing a 1:53 mean. 1:44 and 1:51 being the non DNFs. A twisted corner that I didn't memo had the same effect on the final round to a possible 1:55 mean, all solves where sub 2
4BLD: 1st off by 2 centers an edge and a nonexistant parity, second one of by some more pieces, last one by 2 centers and 3 edges because I forgot to execute a pair. Times were 12:30, 13:30 and 12:30 (or around that)
5BLD: 1st of by many edges and a couple of centers, some setup undoing went bad, I guess. Second one by...

Sorry I need a new line for this

second one off by forgetting to execute the midges. after stopping and realizing what had I done, I put down again the blindfold and executed the midges. Result: success. What a stupid DNF :(

third one of by some centers and few more pieces, another wrong setup, I think. Times where 29 30 and 35

last 2 4BLDs and last 5BLD were all done right after finishing the previous attempt in around 1 hour. Some concentration there :P

I'll try to read the thread last 2 pages tomorrow and comment on your PBs. Not today :P
 
Selkie said:
@Michael

A nice single, despite the +2 and a lovely consistent average. Your turning style seems so effortless. I like the way you adapt TPS to maintain look ahead :tu
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I've only just tried to re-construct this solve (easy for once) and it turns out that there was only one 4 move F2L pair and an OLL skip.

Solution = 50 moves (HTM) = 4.73 TPS

That's nearly on par with Faz's slow turning. lol
 
You guys were talking a little bit back about lifetime goals, I meant to answer but forgot. When I started cubing again I thought it would be cool to be under 1 minute. That happened so quick that I thought I'd like to average under 40 seconds, 30 seemed a little possible, but 20 only seemed possible because of people talking about it. I thought if I ever did get to 20 that would surely be my max. This based more on what people said about speeds than my experience.

Right now 20 is still my goal. Even though I'm close it seems far at the moment because improvements are so small. At the same time I doubt I'll ever be satisfied with where I'm at. I can't imagine averaging 15, over a second under my PB, but maybe in the years to come?

I guess also I could say life goals of 6 for 2x2 and 1:30 for 4x4. Again just based on numbers that seem good since I have not put much time in practice yet.

BTW, I did get a new PB today of 16.156. :) I have also gotten just under 3 mins on 4x4 and I think a 5.8 sec 2x2? Finally I have finished a few OH solves at about 2 mins. Haha
 
@Raúl - Great analysis of your comp there, lovely to see so many Personal Bests and so, so close for BLD mean, sure you will get it next time.

@Michael - They all count sir. To be fair, more often than not, if I get an easy scramble I usually mess it up so congratulations on such a calm solve under the circumstances. To be honest you have improved a lot since the last video I watched of yours. Looking really promising :tu

@Jason - Congratulations on the PB, very nice. If you keep setting attainable goals you would be surprised at how quickly you have to set a new one. Even when you feel that improvement is coming in very small amount or as was my case for a couple of years, when you feel no improvement, the practice always pays off. Can surprise yourself at times :)

.....

Well up very early to fly to Manchester and back for a business meeting today and I have decided to practice some 5x5 during the flights. will let you know how that goes hehe

Lots of talk of goals coupled with great results from Grzegorz and Raúl over the weekend had persuaded me to set my goals early for Exeter Open 2016 in just over a month an to set them in front of you guys, those people I am most motivated to succeed by.

Single/Average
3x3: Sub 16/Sub 16.5 - Realistic goal here though would be delighted with a sub 15 average but that is a lifetime goal in comp so not going to be greedy :)
4x4: Sub 1:10/Sub 1:05 - Need some practice here, where I was sub 1:10 globally, two ao12's in last few days have been >1:12 so in reality I would be happy with PBs for single and average. I also seem to have the most amazing ability at the moment to get double parity on what feels like 90% of solves ;)
5x5: Sub 2:15/Sub 2:20
6x6: Sub 4:30/Sub Cutoff
7x7: SubPB/No! - Cutoff for 7x7 average used to be 7:00 a few years ago and I never made that so will not make 6:00. Need to practice this event a lot more to have a chance of getting anywhere close
Clock: Sub 14/Sub 16
Square-1: Sub 30 (Probably a bit hopeful, will need an easy cube shape case)/SubPB
Skewb: PB/PB - New event for me so best chance of a couple of PBs hehe
3BLD: Success would be nice but for now will be happy just to get to a stage where I am happy to attempt one
All Others: No Goals
 
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@Raul, congrats of all achievements you made on last comp. It's impressive.

@Jason, new Pb, just "wow". Next - sub-14, you will see. :)


Monday is a good day to back to practice again. Talking about goals: sub-20 ao100 as soon as it's possible. This means - practice. My practice looks like this: PLLs for warmup and I do some practice with my worst PLLs (Gb, Na, Nb at the moment). Some slow solves and if I feel comfortable - ao30 or ao50 if I have time. In the weekend I'm gonna look through my OLLs to see which ones are bad and good.
 
h2f said:
@John, @Marcel Thanks. And yes - there were few nice singles. I'm also glad with my skewb ao5 - I think I'm gonna to practice it more.
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I did a Skewb solve this weekend, because I registered for Skewb in May this year. I understand the part where you do U turns with slegde hammers. What I do not get is how to make a quick first 4 corners. Are there any good sources for learning that? The Skewb cross equivalent?
 
Back from a weekend away. Congrats to everyone on their PB's and other achievements.

Selkie said:
Yes, unfortunately the cutoffs in UK are quite severe and need to be given the skill level of the average cuber at comp. It may well be the same in other countries but we have an amazing level of ability on average. The average cutoff for 4x4 has been 1:30 and for 5x5 been 2:30 for the last five years. I think it is a good goal to be sub cutoff :)
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mark49152 said:
Yeah I agree. At first I found it frustrating but when I accepted it as a challenge, I actually really enjoyed working to beat the cutoff and when I did, it was a great feeling. It's nice to have a goal that carries a real reward as opposed to an arbitrary time goal.
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Yep, that's all I'm really aiming for. Can't beat the hard cut for 5x5 at the moment, so have a long way to go. Hoping practice will pay off. If I can envisage every second off 3x3 as 4-7 seconds off 4x4 and 8-14 seconds off 5x5 this should keep me in high spirits! :D

midwatchcowboy said:
49yo here. Hadn't picked up a cube since maybe 1983? Had solve the original Rubik's Cube by feel. No algorithms. Wife bought my son a new Rubik's at Target. He got frustrated. I found out about CFOP solve techniques via youtube and have a new Moyu HuaLong and am sub 3 min with a few simple algorithms. Hope to add more to the bag of tricks.
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Welcome! I also picked up a cube last year for the first time since the 80's. Not sure I even managed to solve it back then either. You'll find plenty of good tips here. Good luck.

moralsh said:
I'm Physically and mentally exhausted. Organizing a 2 day comp is demanding you can't stop doing things on the Venue and off the venue. I'm glad it's over and I'm sorry it's over.
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I think it's awesome that people arrange competitions and hope lots of people thanked you for doing so. I always try to make a point of thanking the people involved in setting up comps so that they can be enjoyed. Well done.
 
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