Older cubers discussions

[mafergut]

Thanks for the stickering advice. Doing one by one I might try, it sounds tedious. Maybe I'll try and puncture those bubbles I have, I thought of that but was scared to try.

Worst thing that can happen is that the sticker will last less but if the puncture is small and you flatten it carefully it shouldn't be a problem. I have done that with a couple bubbles and the stickers seem to be just fine for now. Also I have observed that in the cubes I stickered long ago there are no bubbles any more so maybe you can just forget about them and they will gradually disappear.

By the way, in preparation for my attack on the sub-30/25 race with non-white/yellow crosses I did some solves on other colours and got this nice sub-20 x-cross on green:

1. 19.05 R' F2 U' F2 R2 D B2 L2 B2 D L2 B L' D R' B L' R D R'

I think it's probably PB single on cross color different from white/yellow. Probably a nice scramble for Chris to go back to dual CN blue/green?

 

[mark49152]

I could copy&paste this paragraph, also went supersafe with memo. didn't have to re-memo the last cube, though

I only noticed it because the edge and corner targets didn't seem to match parity. I'm curious as to whether displaced centres can make a cube unsolvable and result in different parities for edges and corners, or whether I made some other silly mistake as well.

As for supersafe memo, I did have a plan worked out beforehand. After each two cubes, I went back and reviewed everything. On the first review of each cube, I checked against the cube to ensure the memo was correct. I did find some mistakes so that's definitely worthwhile. On subsequent reviews I would just test that I could recall the memo.

On the last cube, my plan was to do a regular 3BLD but I changed my mind due to having plenty of time. So I memoed corners using rooms same as the rest, before the final review. Then I did a supersafe audio for edges. I had one panic moment when I was about to execute the 4th cube and realized I was on the 3rd room... then I remembered I had solved the 5th cube first . I do need a better plan.


I'd like to learn more about how other MBLD solvers work. From those I've spoken to, everyone seems to plan it differently.

 

[Goosly]

I'd like to learn more about how other MBLD solvers work. From those I've spoken to, everyone seems to plan it differently.

Yep, everyone does lots of different things. The amount of cubes is a big factor, imo. For 5 cubes, I do the same as you - memo 4, safe 3bld, solve 4. Since you mentioned you were confused about the 3rd room for the 4th cube, I assume you haven't done a lot of 5-cube-attempts yet?

I also believe big blind helps me to get/keep comfortable with my memory-palace. For example, I memo a 5BLD in 4 locations (edges - 3x3 - +centers - xcenters), and I can easily use the same 4 locations for a group of 4 cubes in MBLD, even though I don't practice multiblind a lot at home (I haven't even done an attempt in the last 3 months).

 

[moralsh]

With my previous system I used to do memo 1, review 1, memo second, review both and so on, and then execute the last 2 first.

With my new system (for 5 cubes) Memo all 4, review them backwards, review them again without touching the cube and executing forwards after the normal Blind.

I'm going to try 7 or 8 this week, not sure what I will do, I'll post again.

 

[h2f]

Maskow told the who uses system of 2 cubes: review quickly 2 cubes without trying to memorize but building fast memo. Than memo first, memo second, review them both and take next two. With four cubes (2x2) review them all and take next 2. I try to do the same and it's helpful. But Im not good in mbld - I prefer big cubes.

The ohter trick told me a friends. He puts all cubes in a row but the ones with parity are closer to him around 1 cm. They break a line and he knows wheter there's parity or not. It helps when you do mbld with more than 10 cubes. With few, it doesnt matter. I'm not sure if it's legal - I read the regulations and found nothing about it. I must ask the delagate about it.

 

[mark49152]

Yep, everyone does lots of different things. The amount of cubes is a big factor, imo. For 5 cubes, I do the same as you - memo 4, safe 3bld, solve 4. Since you mentioned you were confused about the 3rd room for the 4th cube, I assume you haven't done a lot of 5-cube-attempts yet?

That was my second attempt. First time, I did memo 4, safe BLD, solve 4. Yesterday when I got to the 5th I decided to use a 5th room instead of a safe BLD, then executed in order 5, 1, 2, 3, 4 and that's what confused me (but only for a few seconds ).

I also believe big blind helps me to get/keep comfortable with my memory-palace. For example, I memo a 5BLD in 4 locations (edges - 3x3 - +centers - xcenters), and I can easily use the same 4 locations for a group of 4 cubes in MBLD, even though I don't practice multiblind a lot at home (I haven't even done an attempt in the last 3 months).

Yes I use the same locations for 4BLD & 5BLD but have decided I need to be more systematic rather than using inconsistent locations as I do today. I have come up with a scheme where I have buildings, with four rooms/floors each, and each room/floor has three locations so is enough for a whole 3x3 or a single piece type in BigBLD. So I can fit a 5BLD in one building, or a 4BLD in half a building (no room/floor needed for X-centres because I use audio). I am going to rotate 4BLD and 5BLD attempts between the buildings to get used to using them all.

 

[Goosly]

The ohter trick told me a friends. He puts all cubes in a row but the ones with parity are closer to him around 1 cm. They break a line and he knows wheter there's parity or not. It helps when you do mbld with more than 10 cubes. With few, it doesnt matter. I'm not sure if it's legal - I read the regulations and found nothing about it. I must ask the delagate about it.

Sure, you can place cubes in rows, groups, all separate, wherever and however you want. I do this too (as you can see below), just as a reminder - with letterpairs, I know if a cube has parity anyway. The trick doesn't work if all cubes in a row have parity though, they will be one straight line anyway

 

[Jason Green]

Haha I have no idea what you guys are talking about building houses to solve blind. It's fun though. And it's funny to think someday I might understand... Or not.

 

[mark49152]

Just wondering whether I can do this... so here goes.
Cube 1: GE QN PR FW OM IZ / IV CL T
Cube 2: FA NW SX CJ MJ DV EZ / HI NO JG P
Cube 3: XE IO NC BP HA FL / XK MB GN TO DI
Cube 4: AV CX JT JR ME RZ / BJ IW KX L
Cube 5: AHCD MVGF TJSJ / GO CQ PH IK

Cube 5 edges were audio and they were harder to recall. Not sure they are right.

 

[h2f]

Haha I have no idea what you guys are talking about building houses to solve blind. It's fun though. And it's funny to think someday I might understand... Or not.

Have you seen Sherlock series by BBC?

 

[Jason Green]

Have you seen Sherlock series by BBC?

No, maybe one episode.

 

[h2f]

If I'm correct 3rd season is about it.

 

[newtonbase]

Just wondering whether I can do this... so here goes.
Cube 1: GE QN PR FW OM IZ / IV CL T
Cube 2: FA NW SX CJ MJ DV EZ / HI NO JG P
Cube 3: XE IO NC BP HA FL / XK MB GN TO DI
Cube 4: AV CX JT JR ME RZ / BJ IW KX L
Cube 5: AHCD MVGF TJSJ / GO CQ PH IK

Cube 5 edges were audio and they were harder to recall. Not sure they are right.

Can you tell us what images you used for the memo? I'm always interested but a lot of people don't have written lists or can't say due to high levels of filth.

 

[mark49152]

Can you tell us what images you used for the memo? I'm always interested but a lot of people don't have written lists or can't say due to high levels of filth.

Haha, yeah that should be fun Actually not all of my pairs have images, I use sort of sentences with one or two images as "hooks" to remind me.

Cube 1: GE QN PR FW OM IZ / IV CL TZ
Get the queen a PR (press release) about this football club of mine (originally memoed as FC, which was wrong, but I just remembered to fix it at execution). IZ was on its own.
Carol T. taking intravenous drugs.

Cube 2: FA NW SX CJ MJ DV EZ / HI NO JG PZ
Fantastic new sex between two celebrities with initials CJ & MJ. Drive easy!
Someone calling to a waiter "hi! there's no jug with my pizza". (Who says memo has to make sense ).

Cube 3: XE IO NC BP HA FL / XK MB GN TO DI
Excessive I/O causes network card to beep "ha!" and fail.
Men in Black in a Jaguar XK (in the bath!) pointing a gun at Di.

Cube 4: AV CX JT JR ME RZ / BJ IW KX LZ
Audio/visual of Maru CX3 just jars me like a razor.
Something going on in the water, kicks Liz.

Cube 5: AHCD MVGF TJSJ / GO CQ PH IK
Athcud moovgif taysay.
Go with ClearQuest, phone Icke (that one will probably make no sense to anyone else ).

 

[newtonbase]

Very imaginative. I'll have to try more sentences and see if I can get them to work for me.

This is a good practice tool http://tobip.ch/letter_pair_generator/
Someone on this site came up with it iirc but I don't know who.
While I'm at it I've been using this site to help create letter pair images http://peoplebyinitials.com

 

[mark49152]

I don't have fixed images per pair, nor take them in isolation. I found that too restrictive, slow and difficult. Instead, I read forwards 2-3 pairs and take them in context together. Some sentence usually pops out even if it's silly. For example, suppose the first pair is KG. Looking ahead to the next pair, it could be KG HN = King Henry, or KG SP = KGB spy.

 

[Jason Green]

That makes sense to me maybe you ordered a jug of root beer with your pizza and it didn't come.

ClearQuest as in the defect tracking system? We use that. Not sure if so if it just means the phone is no good compared to that?

Edit: so does this mean it only takes 8-11 letter pairs for a single blind solve? I guess I thought it was more. That makes it even more appealing.

 

[mark49152]

ClearQuest as in the defect tracking system? We use that. Not sure if so if it just means the phone is no good compared to that?)

I imagined that David Icke (google him) is now working in ClearQuest sales and is sat in my memo location taking customer calls.

Edit: so does this mean it only takes 8-11 letter pairs for a single blind solve? I guess I thought it was more. That makes it even more appealing.

Yeah that is all, it's not hard once you get the hang of it.

 

[chtiger]

I'd like to learn more about how other MBLD solvers work. From those I've spoken to, everyone seems to plan it differently.

I've been doing something different lately that I'm curious if anybody else does. I'm at 7 cubes now, probably could do 8, but that's it, so if you're looking for high level stuff, you're not getting it from me. I don't know how people can do 15+. Anyway, like most people, I put 1 cube aside for normal 3bld. For the other 6, I memo all the edges first, then memo all the corners, then solve the normal 3bld cube, then solve all the corners 1-6 plus parity, then all the edges 1-6. It adds some time having to pick up and put down the cubes an extra time, but not a big deal for just 6 or 7 cubes.

My memo method for edges differs from corners, and is a more long term memo, so that's why I started doing it that way. For review, for edges I take my time on each cube and then review that cube. I do that for cubes 1-6. Then I review everything, and there will be stuff I've forgot. Then I review everything again, and so far that's been good enough to work. For corners, after each cube, I review all the preceding cubes as well. I'll usually review 1-6 an extra time. Then memo cube 7 and start solving.

 

[Jason Green]

I gave away one of the two cubes today that I got for friends that have expressed interest in cubing (or cubing again). I really have been wanting a way to summarize better how *I* would teach someone to cube, so I finally put together a blog post about it. I tried to make an overall video before, but I think it was too overwhelming and difficult for someone new.

I would appreciate your feedback on the general ease of understanding of the text I wrote. I'm not looking to debate what ways are easiest to learn, I know there are opinions on that. As I said in the post, I recommend this to my friends because it is what I could help them with the best if they want/need it. Thanks if anyone would like to help me out!

https://acuriousblog.wordpress.com/2016/02/01/how-to-solve-the-rubiks-cube/