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Today I watched my 20.00 ao12 video again and estimated the pauses. Although I didn't time it accurately, I was turning for a pretty consistent 13-14 seconds per solve. Faster solves had less pauses and slower solves had more. So that confirms what I need to work on, and is quite encouraging in a way.
 
mark49152 said:
Today I watched my 20.00 ao12 video again and estimated the pauses. Although I didn't time it accurately, I was turning for a pretty consistent 13-14 seconds per solve. Faster solves had less pauses and slower solves had more. So that confirms what I need to work on, and is quite encouraging in a way.
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I know what you mean. I'm much slower but still feel like I turn horribly slow. However when I watch myself my turns seem faster than I feel like, and there is gobs of time that I sit staring at it. :)
 
Jason Green said:
Question for you guys that average 20 or less, how fast can you do most of your perms? Can you sub 1 a lot of them?
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My PLLs average ~2.4. Some are faster than others, but I don't time them individually. I practise in groups, or do all 21 in sequence for warm ups or speed practice. My PB ao12 for that is 51.58.
 
mark49152 said:
Today I watched my 20.00 ao12 video again and estimated the pauses. Although I didn't time it accurately, I was turning for a pretty consistent 13-14 seconds per solve. Faster solves had less pauses and slower solves had more. So that confirms what I need to work on, and is quite encouraging in a way.
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That's pretty interesting. All of the little pauses certainly add up!

Jason Green said:
I know what you mean. I'm much slower but still feel like I turn horribly slow. However when I watch myself my turns seem faster than I feel like, and there is gobs of time that I sit staring at it. :)
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TBH, I thought you turned a little too fast when you inserted your pairs (fast and choppy rather than slow and smooth). Whilst you are inserting the current pair (automatically, without looking at it) you should be finding / tracking pieces for your next pair but if you turn too quickly you'll have no chance. With practice you'll actually be looking for pieces of your next pair as soon as you start the current pair but for now just slow down (turn smoothly) and look for the next pair during insertion of the current pair.

Jason Green said:
Question for you guys that average 20 or less, how fast can you do most of your perms? Can you sub 1 a lot of them?
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Nah. I think mine fall between the range 1.2 and 2.4 when I time them individually on a stackmat. They're rarely as quick in a solve because there are extras such as recognition time, recall and AUF (before and after the alg).

If you're averaging around 40s (or aiming for it) then your F2L should take about 25s and the last 15s should be LL.

https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/...bing-training-that-yields-systematic-progress

Edit: Like Mark, I don't tend to time my PLLs. I just did a few prior to writing my post to get some figures (H = 1.2, Jb = 1.2, Ga=1.6, E = 1.8, Gc = 2.4, F=2.4)
 
Logiqx said:
TBH, I thought you turned a little too fast when you inserted your pairs (fast and choppy rather than slow and smooth). Whilst you are inserting the current pair (automatically, without looking at it) you should be finding / tracking pieces for your next pair but if you turn too quickly you'll have no chance. With practice you'll actually be looking for pieces of your next pair as soon as you start the current pair but for now just slow down (turn smoothly) and look for the next pair during insertion of the current pair.

If you're averaging around 40s (or aiming for it) then your F2L should take about 25s and the last 15s should be LL.
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I agree I tend to go to fast, I need to focus on that. Thanks for the tip of looking ahead just during the insert, I seem to get messed up when I try before the slots are paired.

My time split is about right, that's an interesting post you shared. I had not timed my perms but did a few, my U perms are still about 2.9 secs... *Sigh*.
 
Jason Green said:
my U perms are still about 2.9 secs... *Sigh*.
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Do not worry about that. Mine are not a lot faster. My LL averages 5 - 6 secs. Luckily my F2L is 13~ secs :)

Jason Green said:
I just now watched your original video! Inspiring. :)
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Thanks! You can be fast too in a while :) (Well I think anything below sub 25 is fast..)
 
MarcelP said:
How about sub 10 :) If you stick with it I am sure sub 20 will be no problem. After that it gets hard (for me).. :)
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Yes 10 would be better. I have a problem where I can never be satisfied, I guess that's being human for most of us. So unless I become the best in the world I won't be done trying... Not that I think I could, but that's irrelevant.

I like to bowl and have the same issue. I would bowl pro stuff if I could, but I only average around 190-200 (the pros would average 240+ in a league like mine).

I still enjoy the process though!
 
Jason Green said:
Yes 10 would be better. I have a problem where I can never be satisfied, I guess that's being human for most of us. So unless I become the best in the world I won't be done trying... Not that I think I could, but that's irrelevant.

I like to bowl and have the same issue. I would bowl pro stuff if I could, but I only average around 190-200 (the pros would average 240+ in a league like mine).

I still enjoy the process though!
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You are a pretty good bowler I see :) I am good at trowing a bowling ball really fast that would knock out a wall, if only it would stay on the lane. :)

I remember some time ago I said I would be happy if I got the time Schmidt was getting. That ment 25~ secs at that time. I would not have mind if I stayed there. But some how with practice I got to be in the 19 - 20 overall range. And I feel I am not near my max speed yet.
 
Jason Green said:
Question for you guys that average 20 or less, how fast can you do most of your perms? Can you sub 1 a lot of them?
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I average about 24 seconds, and I don't even sub-2 any PLLs. I just tried and it took a bunch of tries before I got a sub 2 U-perm. I'd guess my perms range from 2.2-4. And I don't do anything else particularly well either, and still have some bad habits. I still solve cross on top and usually can only plan out 3 cross pieces in inspection, rotate a ton, too many pauses, etc. So just with practice, you'll be at least mid 20's before too long. I would upload an average of 12, but I don't have an easy way to record and upload.
 
I ordered the Yuxin 5x5 last week and it is waiting for me at the sorting office. Bad traffic prevented me from picking it up tonight so it will have to wait until tomorrow. I wanted to play with it tonight!

I did an Ao12 on my AoChuang at lunchtime, my first timed 5x5 solves since Sept 3rd but a load of new PBs... 1/5/12 = 03:08.70/03:23.28/03:34.28

I'm still a lot slower than Mark and way, way, way slower than the other Mike but it was a 13 second improvement for Ao5. I'll get back to not practicing... it seems to work well! :)

Edit: Joking aside, I've only done a few casual slow solves since my last timed session so they must be the source of improvement.
 
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