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Well I personally think you should lost half a point for each unsolved cube (or maybe gain two points per solved cube to keep everything in integers?). That might make things a bit less silly.So now I'm ranked 17th/26 in the UK and officially better than TDM - silly isn't it.
(and I definitely don't just think that because of my official results!
)I'll try! I still don't know why my accuracy is so bad, but hopefully I'll have sorted that by either November or April, whenever my next competition is.TDM, I hope this motivates you to pull off an awesome PB at your next comp and take your rightful place above me!
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All expections met
I'm most pleased with my 4x4 result.
I am currently uploading a video of Mark's MBLD.
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Fantastic! Thanks so much for recording and sharing that. Ben, you need to speed up your execution for the sake of your son's armI am currently uploading a video of Mark's MBLD.
Mike, your solves look very composed and yes I also think the 4x4 result is the most impressive. GJ
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Oh my goodness, this thread is still going. I haven't been on the forum in ages. I cube here and there but not too much. What have I missed?
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Oh not much. We are all pretty much sub 10 here
There is a new WR on Rubiks cube. An American and not Feliks Mark, Mike ( Logiqx) and I are all in the same category (sub 20 -ish) with Mark being the fastest and me the slowest. Mark is a BLD ninja now and Mike is averaging 10 seconds official on Pyra.. So there you are.. LOL@Mike, great video! Nice quality too. I always film with phone of pciture camera. I need to invest in a decent cam. What do you have for camera?
EDIT, oh and Mark and Mike are fast on 4x4. Maybe even faster than you. Me, I am still around the 1.50 - 2.00 on 4x4.
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Fantastic! Thanks so much for recording and sharing that.
Mike, your solves look very composed and yes I also think the 4x4 result is the most impressive. GJ
NP. Marcel can also add a face to your name now.
Perhaps I did slightly too much 4x4 practice and should have spent more time on 3x3 and OH. Most of my OH solves came up with my least favourite OLLs and PLLs so I must drill them before I compete next time. I had one solve which should have been around 30s but I had a mental block on the L-shaped OLL (r2 turns) so I switched to 2-look (haven't done that in 6 months) and in failing to execute the edge alg correctly, I messed up the F2L. It ended up being 46s or so...
The sup-40 community (age) appears to be growing. Mark and I have now started to do competitions. Marcel has two sub-10 singles iirc.
You're still faster than me on 3x3 Marcel. You're also the one with sub-10 solves and at least one of them on film!
The camera I use as a spectator is a Panasonic HD camcorder. I'll check the model number when I get home but it wasn't hugely expensive when I bought it a few years ago. I need to experiment with the video settings because it has a 1080p setting but it is currently set to 1080i.
The table cam is a GoPro 3+ Black, recording 1080p at 60fps (well 59.94) in wide angle. It was unobtrusive during the competition because I just pressed record walking to the table, placed it at arms length then focused on my solve.
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It was unobtrusive during the competition because I just pressed record walking to the table, placed it at arms length then focused on my solve.
Yeah, that is what I want too. No hassle needed when nervous for a solve
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Yeah, that is what I want too. No hassle needed when nervous for a solve
I also toyed with the idea of using my compact camera on a mini-tripod. It may be better for close-ups but it would take more time to set up and the cube could easily be out of frame in early attempts. I figured the GoPro would be the safest option and it's kinda nice to see reactions on film as well.
I didn't edit my conversation with Ollie into my video but it started along the lines of "This may sound strange but I don't expect the older guys to be doing full OLL and PLL". He thought it was cool that I was using full CFOP.
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NP. Marcel can also add a face to your name now.
LOL, yeah. At first I was looking at the wrong person. Not untill halfway when you started filming Mark I realised ahh that's Mark.
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Yep still going, the only change is that we've been banished to "off topic" because we never talk about cubing, LOL
.Well 5/9 is certainly a much more impressive feat than 2/2, but it's also less impressive than 5/5. It makes sense to have a penalty for unsolved cubes (over and above the extra time taken) but I can't see how that penalty could be anything other than arbitrary. 0.5 is just as arbitrary as 1. Anyway, given the way the rules stand, it's not hard to come up with tactics that give you a better chance of a better ranking
.I wouldn't agree, I think it's too close to call really. The differences between our PBs are probably less than the differences each of us see from day to day due to variations in form.
I didn't edit my conversation with Ollie into my video but it started along the lines of "This may sound strange but I don't expect the older guys to be doing full OLL and PLL". He thought it was cool that I was using full CFOP.
That's pretty funny. I'm curious why he (or anyone) would think that. A general preconception that older competitors might not take it as seriously maybe?
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Well, it is harder for older people to learn complete alg-sets due to work, family etc. I can see why he was surprised. The older people I see on comps (Ron van B excepted) indeed do 4LLL.
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Yeah. Ben (bubbagrub) is on the left, Bertie (Berd) is on the right and Mark is hiding at the back.
Perhaps an assumption that we have better things to do with our time than play with plastic toys.
Like Marcel says... he probably doesn't see the older guys doing full CFOP very often and 4LLL or even beginner LL is probably more common.
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I guess it's as arbitrary as saying which results you think are more impressiveWell 5/9 is certainly a much more impressive feat than 2/2, but it's also less impressive than 5/5. It makes sense to have a penalty for unsolved cubes (over and above the extra time taken) but I can't see how that penalty could be anything other than arbitrary. 0.5 is just as arbitrary as 1. Anyway, given the way the rules stand, it's not hard to come up with tactics that give you a better chance of a better ranking
Having -0.5 for unsolved cubes does put 5/9 between 2/2 and 5/5, which is where I think it should go. But yes, I don't really think that the current rules will change.bubbagrub
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Fantastic! Thanks so much for recording and sharing that. Ben, you need to speed up your execution for the sake of your son's arm
Yes -- thanks so much for that Mike -- it's great to have it on video. And Mark, yes, I did feel bad watching that through. He did a good job keeping the paper up, but perhaps I'll ask someone else to judge next time!
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Well you could interpret it that way, but I did mean "impressive" in an objective sense for those examples, i.e. 5/5 should score more than 5/9, for obvious reasons. Now whether 5/5 is more/less impressive than 6/7 is a different questionI guess it's as arbitrary as saying which results you think are more impressive
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Well you could interpret it that way, but I did mean "impressive" in an objective sense for those examples, i.e. 5/5 should score more than 5/9, for obvious reasons. Now whether 5/5 is more/less impressive than 6/7 is a different question
Yep, it's difficult to judge. I'd say 6/7 would be more "impressive" myself, but I know others would disagree.
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My camcorder is a Panasonic HC-V510 and cost £160 in May 2014.
http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/cameras-camcorders/camcorders/full-hd-camcorders/hc-v510.html
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I really like the G4. It's the first 4x4 that doesn't catch on the internals. I still need to get used to the size but I don't think that will be a problem.
Anyway, first time posting to this epic thread. My name is Mike. I'm 42 and do 2x2 through 7x7. I'm not very fast but I know full OLL, PLL and CLL and am learning more algorithms for OH and alternates for big cubes.
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Hey Mike. Welcome to the thread.
Judging by your official times it looks like you're faster than the rest of us on big cubes.
