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Logiqx said:
I've registered for the ABHC at the end of August. It's only 15-20 minutes from my house.

https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/c.php?i=AugustBankHolidayCompetition2015
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Cool. D not expect your times to be much higher than at home. Or else you will be disappointed. But then again there are always people with steel nerves that do better at competition than at home :)

I just had an Ao50 PB (by 0.17). ( my times when to **** after 70 solves or else it would have been PB Ao100 also
Generated By csTimer on 2015-7-13
solves/total: 100/100

single
best: 14.33
worst: 25.70

mean of 3
current: 20.49 (σ = 2.06)
best: 15.45 (σ = 0.74)

avg of 5
current: 18.68 (σ = 1.64)
best: 15.97 (σ = 1.40)

avg of 12
current: 19.74 (σ = 1.96)
best: 17.62 (σ = 1.54)

avg of 50
current: 19.37 (σ = 1.61)
best: 18.47 (σ = 1.61)

avg of 100
current: 19.13 (σ = 1.71)
best: 19.13 (σ = 1.71)

Average: 19.13 (σ = 1.71)
Mean: 19.15

Time List:
1. 19.57 U L F R F2 B2 R B F2 U2 B2 L U2 B2 L U2 B2 D2 B
2. 18.58 D' L' U2 L' R2 F2 L2 F2 U2 R' F2 D' R U B D2 R' D L' F2
3. 23.11 D F U' R2 U' F R' D2 L R2 U2 L2 U B2 D B2 R2 U2 F2 U2 B
4. 20.67 D2 U2 L2 B L2 F' U2 L2 F' R2 D B2 U' B F L R B U2 L U'
5. 19.01 D2 L2 U' F2 U' B2 L2 U' B2 L2 U' B L2 U' R' B' D2 L' D R' B2
6. 18.00 D' B2 D L2 R2 F2 D L2 B2 F2 U2 B U B' R U L' B' F2 D L2
7. 25.70 R2 B2 U B2 U F2 D' L2 D' F2 L2 F' L' R2 U' R' F2 U' L2 R2 F
8. 18.63 F' R U' R' U' B' U2 B' F2 R' B2 R2 B2 L' F2 D2 B2 U2 R F
9. 19.87 L' U2 L2 F2 D2 R B2 U B' U2 F2 R2 B2 U' F2 U' F2 U' R2
10. 17.41 F B2 R B R2 L B' R2 U L' D2 B U2 F2 B' L2 D2 L2 U2 B L2
11. 18.88 D' R F R2 F' L' F' U R' B L2 B' R2 F D2 F2 U2 B D2 B
12. 17.97 D B2 L2 D U L2 F2 D L2 D' R B F2 D2 R F2 R2 D F2 L2
13. 18.88 B2 L2 R2 U2 B R2 F2 D2 U2 L2 B2 L' D' L' D2 R D2 B' D' L' B
14. 20.59 B' R2 B' U2 B L2 B2 D2 F' L2 B R' D' B2 L' B' D2 L' B2 L U
15. 17.37 L' D2 L' D2 U2 B2 D2 R2 F2 L' D B U' L U2 B2 F' L2 B'
16. 18.54 R' B2 L B2 U2 R F2 D2 L U2 L D' R F D2 B' D F L' D2
17. 20.46 U2 L D2 B2 F2 R2 B2 R' B2 F2 R' F R2 U F L2 D' R B F' R2
18. 20.48 F' B2 U2 D' R2 L2 B R L2 F2 D R2 F2 B2 D' F2 L2 D2 R2 L'
19. 21.69 L' B2 U2 L' B2 U2 L' R2 D2 F2 U2 D B D L' F' D2 R2 U' B
20. 15.97 D2 F' L2 R2 U2 B2 L2 F' R2 F2 R2 L U' R2 D2 F' R2 F' U L' R'
21. 21.42 D' F' D' F D2 L F U' F2 B D2 F R2 F L2 F2 U2 R2 F R'
22. 17.28 B2 R F2 U2 R B2 R' F2 L' D R2 U B' L2 F R' U2 F' R'
23. 20.56 F2 U B2 R2 B2 U2 L2 D' F2 R B' U' F' R' F2 R F' L B
24. 21.23 L' F2 U' B2 D' F2 D' F2 D' B2 L2 D2 R B2 U' F' D2 U' B L D'
25. 22.75 L2 F2 L2 D L2 D' U2 L2 U2 B2 R2 L D' B R2 F D U B L2
26. 15.91 D2 U2 L2 B F' L2 B' R2 B' U2 F' L B' D U' B2 F2 R' U2 F2 L
27. 14.59 B' L2 U' L2 B2 D B2 U L2 R2 F2 U2 R B F2 L' B L2 U R2 B
28. 15.84 D U L2 D R2 F2 U B2 R D2 B2 D' F U L D' R2 F D'
29. 20.13 B L' F2 U2 D' L' F B U F2 B2 U2 L2 D B2 U' R2 U2 F2
30. 18.05 F R' L U2 L U' F' L' B2 D2 L2 U L2 B2 R2 D2 L2 D2 R'
31. 21.81 L F2 U' R2 D' F2 R' F D R D2 R2 L' F2 R' U2 B2 U2 R'
32. 17.81 B' L' B2 D2 U2 L B2 R2 U2 R B2 D F' R U L2 U2 L' U' B' D'
33. 19.79 D' F2 L2 U2 B2 D' B2 D B D' U2 R' U L' U2 F L' U R2
34. 17.92 L' D2 R' D' L D' R' F' R D2 L2 U2 F' L2 U2 B' D2 F2 L2 U2
35. 20.12 F' L' F' U B' D2 F2 D L' D2 L2 U2 R2 B2 D F2 L2 B2 L2 U'
36. 18.66 R D2 B2 R' B2 R' D2 R U2 R2 D2 B U F U' L' D L F R2
37. 19.38 F2 U' F2 L2 D' B2 R2 B2 D2 F D U' L' D L' D B2 L' F2
38. 14.45 U2 R' F2 L F2 D2 L' U2 L' F2 R2 U' B F2 D L U' R U F' R2
39. 16.24 D B U2 L2 U2 L2 F U2 L2 F L2 B' L' R F R B D2 B' U' R
40. 17.57 B2 U2 B' U2 R2 F2 U2 L2 B' R2 F L' F' L B' D' U2 B R2 D' F'
41. 17.22 D' R L' F' L F D' B' R' B2 R2 L2 D2 B U2 B L2 F' L2 D2
42. 14.33 U2 L B' D' L' B2 R D R2 B D2 B2 U2 R2 B R2 F' R2 D2 R
43. 17.18 L' U B U2 R' L2 F' D' R' F2 D2 F2 L2 U2 F2 L2 F' R2 F
44. 19.88 B2 F2 L2 U2 L' B2 L' R2 D2 B2 L2 D' R2 U' L' B L2 R U' B' U2
45. 20.95 L2 R2 F2 D2 R2 U L2 R2 B2 U2 B D2 F2 R F' D2 F' L2 F R'
46. 18.55 L F L U2 L U' F R' D' R2 F' B' D2 F2 D2 R2 U2 F2 R2
47. 17.95 B' U F2 L2 B2 F2 D2 U' R2 U B2 D' L' B' U R' D' U2 R U R'
48. 18.40 D U L2 D2 L2 F2 U' R2 U L2 F' U L' B2 R2 F L2 D' L2
49. 21.44 F2 D L B2 R' F' D F2 U2 L U2 F' D2 F L2 D2 L2 B R2 U2 F
50. 14.73 B' L2 U2 R2 D2 U2 B' U2 B' L2 F' D U' L D' F' R B' F' R2
51. 19.25 B2 U2 B2 R D2 U2 F2 D2 L F2 B R B F D U' B' L2 D2 B
52. 18.69 F B' R' F U2 L B2 R U R2 F2 U2 B2 R' U2 R' F2 D2 L2
53. 19.80 F2 L2 R2 B L2 F D2 F L2 B' D2 R D L' B' F' R D R F2 U2
54. 19.20 R L' F' D L F B' R B' F2 D2 L B2 U2 B2 U2 R B2 R B2
55. 18.62 U B2 U' L2 U B2 D F2 R2 D L2 R' B F L2 F D2 B' L' B L'
56. 18.42 F2 U2 F' R2 F' L2 U2 R2 B D' B2 L D' B' L F2 L2 U R2
57. 19.87 U L2 B R2 B' L2 F' D2 F' D2 R2 L' B2 F' U B L2 D R2 B'
58. 17.95 U R2 U R' L2 D' L B' L2 U R2 D' B2 L2 U' R2 D' R2 U2
59. 15.48 F2 D L2 R2 U F2 U R2 U' B2 L' R' B' U' F D' R2 F2 D' F'
60. 22.67 L B2 R2 D2 L F2 L2 B2 R' D' R' F U' F R' B2 U2 F2
61. 21.39 U' L2 D2 R2 B2 U' L2 R2 D' R2 D F R F D2 L' D2 L2 B U'
62. 17.71 F D R2 F D' R2 L2 B2 R' L2 F D2 F' U2 B' D2 F' L2 U2 F
63. 15.99 F2 D2 F2 D' B2 L2 U' F2 L2 U' L2 R F' L2 U' B U' L2 R U' R'
64. 19.55 R B L U' L F U R D B U2 R2 F2 B' U2 R2 B U2 L2 F2
65. 21.62 R' U' R2 D F2 D2 B2 L2 R2 U' B2 U' F' D' F2 R B2 L D B R'
66. 18.61 B2 U' R2 U' B2 U' L2 U' L2 R F U' F' D R' B' D2 F R2
67. 17.52 R F2 L' U' F' D R B U' L2 F2 D2 L2 U' R2 D R2 F2 D2 F
68. 19.26 L2 B2 L' U2 R2 F2 R' B2 L' D2 R F' U' L' R' B R2 F' R' F'
69. 22.16 D B2 L2 F U2 B2 R2 F2 L2 U2 R2 U2 R F R B D' R' F' L D2
70. 19.11 L D U L2 F2 L2 D R2 U B2 D' L2 F U2 B2 R F2 L2 U R D'
71. 16.91 F U2 L2 B' L2 D2 L2 F' R2 B2 U R' D2 B' R U' F D F U
72. 17.96 D2 B2 L2 B2 F2 D' F2 R2 U' R2 U' B' L D U2 R U F L' R2 F'
73. 17.76 F R' L D B R2 F L B2 R2 F2 U2 R B2 U2 F2 R' B'
74. 18.52 L' U2 L' D2 U2 B2 U2 R F2 R F U B R F2 D' L2 R2 F2 R2
75. 20.02 R2 B F D2 R2 F' U2 R2 B2 F R' D U F2 R' U2 F R U2
76. 22.15 U2 L D2 L2 R' U2 R2 F2 U2 R' D2 B U2 R U F L' F2 L R2
77. 19.36 F2 D F' D2 L F' B2 U L F U2 B' U2 D2 L2 B D2 F R2 F'
78. 16.49 F2 B2 D' F R2 L' B2 D F2 R2 U2 F' L2 B' R2 F' L2 B R
79. 19.11 U2 F D' L2 U2 R L2 D2 F' U2 B2 R2 U' F2 B2 D B2 R'
80. 20.75 R2 F' L2 B2 D2 L2 B D2 F U2 F' L' U R' F2 D F2 L2 F2 U'
81. 21.67 F2 U2 F2 D F2 U B2 D B2 L2 U2 B' D2 B2 R' B D L U' F2 U
82. 18.51 R' F2 U2 F' D2 F L2 F U2 L2 F' D2 L B2 F' L2 D L2 F2 U2 B
83. 20.18 U2 R U2 L2 B2 L' F2 U2 R2 F2 L' D' F2 D' B D' F2 L D' B
84. 18.80 F R' L2 B L2 F U B R2 U2 D' L2 U2 F2 R2 F2 U' L2 F2 R
85. 17.00 D R2 D R2 U' F U B L F2 R F2 R' U2 R' D2 F2 U2 R' U
86. 18.40 D2 F' R' U' F B U B' L2 D B2 R2 U' L2 U D2 B2 U' B2
87. 25.51 D L2 R2 F2 R2 U' L2 R2 U F2 U2 R D' L U B2 F D' U2 F' U'
88. 22.20 U B2 F2 L B2 R2 F2 D2 L2 R B2 R2 D' F2 R' U2 L B D2 L'
89. 17.88 F L2 B2 R D2 L' D2 F2 R2 F2 R U2 D B R2 U' R F D' B D
90. 20.54 U B2 U B2 U L2 R2 U' L2 R F2 D' B' U2 R B2 L2 B F'
91. 20.58 U D R D' F R2 F' B' U' L2 D' L2 D2 F2 U R2 D2
92. 17.80 U2 D2 R F2 R2 B R F2 L' F2 D' R2 L2 D' L2 U B2 U F2 L2
93. 19.27 U2 L2 D F2 U2 R2 F2 U R2 D L2 R' U2 R F L2 D U F U2 L'
94. 23.08 D F' U2 B' D2 B' L2 U2 R2 F2 R' U' L' F' L' D2 L D2 B2
95. 22.72 B' D R' U F2 R2 L' F' L' F D2 F2 L2 F L2 U2 B2 L2 D2 B2
96. 17.12 L U R F U2 D' L' U B F2 L2 D' R2 U2 D' R2 L2 D F2 D B
97. 17.17 F B2 L' B U L' D B L' U' R2 U B2 R2 D' R2 F2 D' L2 B2
98. 22.58 D' B D2 F U B' R B' R' U2 R F2 U2 L D2 R2 B2 L' B2
99. 18.46 U2 B2 R2 F2 D R2 D L2 B2 U2 L2 R U' B R2 F2 R' B2 D2 B' U2
100. 20.42 F2 D L2 B U2 F' R2 L' U' D2 R2 F' U2 F L2 U2 F' R2 L2 B2
 
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Nice session.

I don't expect my competition times to be close to my good sessions at home. I know from years of competitive athletics and windsurfing how self inflicted pressure is usually the cause of a poor performance. Expecting good times is asking for trouble so I'll just try to relax and see what happens.
 
I finished teaching my two work mates to cube today.

It was kind of enlightening and generally quite a fun experience. I've now taught 4 total beginners to cube but I've also introduced a couple of guys to F2L and 4LLL.

It never fails to amaze me how difficult some people find the cross. Once they're past the cross they seem to pick up the other steps relatively quickly... corners and edges come quickly and LL hasn't proven to be particularly challenging.

The hardest thing was getting both guys together during lunchtimes what with random meetings, support incidents, etc.
 
Logiqx said:
The hardest thing was getting both guys together during lunchtimes what with random meetings, support incidents, etc.
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LOL, yeah I know how that is..

I did only 25 solves today. And in the first 23 I had a PB Ao12 and Mo3 :). jay!

Generated By csTimer on 2015-7-16
solves/total: 25/25

single
best: 13.33
worst: 27.01

mean of 3
current: 18.89 (σ = 3.05)
best: 14.66 (σ = 1.23)

avg of 5
current: 18.46 (σ = 2.65)
best: 16.32 (σ = 1.76)

avg of 12
current: 18.40 (σ = 1.94)
best: 17.23 (σ = 2.14)

Average: 18.75 (σ = 1.88)
Mean: 18.82

Time List:
1. 21.26 B2 R2 B2 U2 R2 D F2 L2 U R2 D F R B' R D2 U' F2 L D U'
2. 19.11 F' R2 U2 F R2 B R2 B' R2 D2 F' U' F' R2 D2 R D' L' U' B R
3. 19.23 R' F2 U2 F2 U L2 F2 D' F2 L2 U2 R2 F R' D' B L R2 B' F D2
4. 16.99 R B2 D2 F2 L2 F2 L F2 U2 L' F2 B' U2 R2 F2 R' U L U R
5. 22.19 U2 R' U2 R' L U' L2 F' D' L2 B' D2 B2 R2 D2 R2 D2 F'
6. 18.50 L B2 D2 B' D2 F' R2 B L2 F' D2 F2 L' F U' F R F' R' D2
7. 27.01 L' U2 F2 R2 U2 R F2 D2 B2 U2 R2 D L' U' L U' B F' U F R
8. 19.52 L B2 U' R' B' D B' R' D' L2 D F2 D' B2 R2 L2 U2 R2 B2 L
9. 19.91 B L' B2 U2 R' B2 R' D2 R' F2 D2 B' F R' F D L2 U' B
10. 20.65 F2 U2 L2 R2 U B2 U L2 B2 L2 R' B D2 R' D U' R D2 B' U2
11. 18.69 U L2 B2 R2 U B2 F2 L2 D B2 D' R B' D F' R2 F2 U' B2 U' R'
12. 13.33 F2 R2 B2 D B2 D L2 D U2 F2 D R B2 D2 F' L R U2 B2 U' R
13. 14.91 B' D' R B D' L' F2 D' B R2 U2 L2 D2 R2 B2 D F2 R2 F2 D'
14. 15.75 B2 R2 U2 R B2 D F2 B D F2 R' F2 L2 B2 L' F2 U2 L D2 L
15. 18.29 B' D' F2 R2 U2 R2 F2 D' B2 D' F2 L2 R' B F2 D2 U' B U R2 F2
16. 18.39 F2 L2 R2 D U2 F2 L2 U2 R2 U R' U2 L' B' F2 D' R' B2 F2 L'
17. 16.59 F' U L2 D' F2 U L2 D' R2 D B2 D B D2 B2 R' D' B2 F L2 R2
18. 18.42 U' R2 B' L2 F' R2 F2 L2 F' D2 L2 U2 D' L D B R' B R
19. 20.64 B L U B U B2 D' R' D B2 U2 L B2 L2 U2 L' B2 L' U2 L'
20. 20.54 D L' F2 U2 F2 D B2 R2 U' L F' L2 F2 L2 U2 B U2 B L2
21. 14.27 B R' B2 U D R' F2 L' D F D2 F2 L2 B2 R2 D2 F L2 F' R2 D
22. 19.76 F D2 L2 F L2 B U2 B2 R2 U2 F' L' D L2 B' R2 F' D2 L2 R U2
23. 15.41 D B2 D B2 D2 R2 U R2 F2 R2 F2 L B' L2 R F2 U' B2 L' F U'
24. 20.20 B2 U2 R U2 L' F2 U2 R F2 B' D' B2 D L2 D B2 L' R
25. 21.07 U2 F2 D B2 U' L2 R2 D' L2 D' F2 B R' D' R2 D' F2 R2 F2 U2 F'
 
mark49152 said:
Also broke the sub-7 ao100 on 2x2 (6.63).
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I'm just about sticking to my practice schedule (except no lunchtime practice due to cube lessons) and 2x2 was re-introduced this week.

I've done two sessions so far... last night I got my first sub-2 single (12 moves, 9 planned during inspection) and today was my first sub-7 / sub-6.5 Ao100.

I had some nice OH solves this evening as well... 0.5s improvement on Ao5 and 1.5s improvement for Ao12.

I've neglected the 4x4 due to lack of time. That's a little self inflicted though as I didn't have to go digging in the WCA database for over 40 stats. :)
 
Logiqx said:
... last night I got my first sub-2 single (12 moves, 9 planned during inspection) and today was my first sub-7 / sub-6.5 Ao100.
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Very nice. How is the OLL prediction going? And which cube do you use?

I haven't done 2x2 for a few days as I went back to 4x4 and 5x5. Finally broke 3 mins on 5x5, and also today got a new 3x3 bao50 PB of 17.28. Feels like I might be starting to break past that plateau, and I think the bigger cubes have helped.
 
mark49152 said:
Nice PBs Marcel... still improving! Do you have a target?
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Yeah, the last few PB's indicate that I am improving. I have no target. I have been doing only untimed Megaminx (no, I do not have a Moyu Megaminx) and untimed 4X4 solves daily with almost no 3X3 practice. End of summer I have a competition so I also should starting to do OH and Pyra and 2X2 again. :)

ps I did not even register for 5X5 since I am still averaging 5 minutes and the cutoffs to steep for me.
 
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mark49152 said:
Very nice. How is the OLL prediction going? And which cube do you use?

I haven't done 2x2 for a few days as I went back to 4x4 and 5x5. Finally broke 3 mins on 5x5, and also today got a new 3x3 bao50 PB of 17.28. Feels like I might be starting to break past that plateau, and I think the bigger cubes have helped.
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At the moment I only do OLL prediction if the first face is really easy, perhaps 1/10 solves. Most of my solves are just planning the first face and predicting the permutation. I'll start working on OLL prediction later this week or next week. I also need to look at my AUF prediction (i.e. after PBL) as I only do that half the time but it makes a big difference to the times. Predicting OLL and AUF feels plenty good enough for sub-5 solves.

My cube is a Dayan Zhanchi.
 
Didn't mean to double-post ;) I had written a long text but was hit by an error 504 :(

results can be seen on Tuesday. One of us was ~2 sec faster than the other! Ohh, the suspense.
 
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