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MarcelP said:
Actually that was in two weeks. LOL.. I played drums as a kid. Started at age 9 until about 18 years old. So I have a sense of rhythm. But I have no sense of keeping tune when singing, or I am not able to hear what note is played. I figure that will come with time. Playing piano is really a lot harder than I figured. But I like it so much. You are a piano (as well violin)- teacher right? This song you watched on my Youtube Watching Lara from Yann Tiersen is pretty much the easiest song I could find to start out with. I have been starting on several songs but all are to hard for me to learn it real quick.. So right now I am working on:
-First couple of (cool) lines from Fur Elise
-The river flows in you
-Imagine, John Lennon (Cooler as that does it not get)
-comptine d'un autre été - yann tiersen ( can do all parts with left, and with right but just not together.. ARGGG!!)

:) Do you have a suggestion for me what is nice and easy to learn?
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Two weeks... even better! I can see you have some experience with rhythm just from the way you slowed down at the end of the song. Tuning is different, but with a piano/keyboard, you don't have to worry about that either unless you plan on singing aolong. Yes, I teach piano as well as violin. Right now with my big family and reduced students, all my (3) students are piano students, actually. I only teach classical music so of the songs you mentioned I only recognize Fur Elise (and for some reason I really don't like it, maybe because Beethoven has written many more better songs but Fur Elise is more famous than I think it deserves.) I'm not sure what would be easy for you to learn that you might find more interesting to learn. Typically for my beginner students they practice playing very easy simplistic things just to know and practice how to move their fingers properly. For you, I would suggest finding things that you like and may be easier (looks like you already found some) and just working at it slowly.

Like, for the the piece you can do hands separately, practice until you can do it very easily hands separately. Then work at it piece by piece. Line by line. If not a line then two bars or one more or a few notes. Think of it like you are a baby at the piano right now. A very young baby needs his food pureed very fine and given in very small spoonfuls. A bigger baby doesn't need it chopped up as fine. Adults chew their own food and can swallow bigger pieces. But then it also depends on how hard your song is. An easy song is mashed potatoes. A hard song is well done steak. Even an adult will need to use a knife to cut up his steak before eating it.
 
sneaklyfox said:
Two weeks... even better! I can see you have some experience with rhythm just from the way you slowed down at the end of the song. Tuning is different, but with a piano/keyboard, you don't have to worry about that either unless you plan on singing aolong. Yes, I teach piano as well as violin. Right now with my big family and reduced students, all my (3) students are piano students, actually. I only teach classical music so of the songs you mentioned I only recognize Fur Elise (and for some reason I really don't like it, maybe because Beethoven has written many more better songs but Fur Elise is more famous than I think it deserves.) I'm not sure what would be easy for you to learn that you might find more interesting to learn. Typically for my beginner students they practice playing very easy simplistic things just to know and practice how to move their fingers properly. For you, I would suggest finding things that you like and may be easier (looks like you already found some) and just working at it slowly.

Like, for the the piece you can do hands separately, practice until you can do it very easily hands separately. Then work at it piece by piece. Line by line. If not a line then two bars or one more or a few notes. Think of it like you are a baby at the piano right now. A very young baby needs his food pureed very fine and given in very small spoonfuls. A bigger baby doesn't need it chopped up as fine. Adults chew their own food and can swallow bigger pieces. But then it also depends on how hard your song is. An easy song is mashed potatoes. A hard song is well done steak. Even an adult will need to use a knife to cut up his steak before eating it.
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Yeah, that makes sense. I know it is all about practice. I am just so eager to be able to play the piano that I have no patience LOL... I am surprised you only know Fur Elise. I am sure you must have hear Imagine from John Lennon before. It is one of the most famous pop songs in history ;) And do you know the french movie Amelie? Yann Tiersen wrote the film music and this is the main number:

[video=youtube_share;W_0GdB4oD6s]http://youtu.be/W_0GdB4oD6s[/video]

I think it is so beautifull. All piano tutors should teach that song :)

How is your skill level? Could you pull this off with practice: http://youtu.be/n4JD-3-UAzM ?
 
MarcelP said:
Yeah, that makes sense. I know it is all about practice. I am just so eager to be able to play the piano that I have no patience LOL... I am surprised you only know Fur Elise. I am sure you must have hear Imagine from John Lennon before. It is one of the most famous pop songs in history ;) And do you know the french movie Amelie? Yann Tiersen wrote the film music and this is the main number:

I think it is so beautifull. All piano tutors should teach that song :)

How is your skill level? Could you pull this off with practice: http://youtu.be/n4JD-3-UAzM ?
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Ok ok, I have heard Imagine. But I really don't know very much about things outside of classical music. Well, I am so rusty nowadays. Even you could pull that off with enough practice... but I think you mean "reasonable amount of practice" and then I would say no. In my prime, almost. I know my brother can do that (the link you added). After all, piano is my second instrument only. The very ending made me LOL though.

Schmidt said:
You cube too much ;)
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:p I know I do. (Had to do it. It was too perfect.)
 
sneaklyfox said:
The very ending made me LOL though.
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Yeah, the butt cord.. LOL There was a contest. You had to send in youtube video of your self playing that piece exact like him. There very young kids who pulled that off. Just search on yourtube: radnich pirates of the caribbean contest. I know I will never achieve that level. I do not have the time for that practise ;)
 
Do you guys ever do one handed? I've had some pain in my right hand this week so I've been doing one handed solves while it recovers.

I've been using 4LLL until this week but I decided to learn some PLLs over the past 3 days and I'm now up to 15/21.

I timed myself today and despite some large variation in my times (alg recall / execution issues), I've smashed my PBs... -11s single, -9s Ao5, -7s Ao12.

I'm very happy with the effect of 4-5 days OH practice! It almost looks like I know what I'm doing. ;)

I normally do 25 solves during a timed OH session but I rolled this session for the Ao12.

Generated By csTimer on 2015-2-20
solves/total: 26/26

single
best: 32.68
worst: 1:08.64

mean of 3
current: 43.85 (σ = 15.83)
best: 35.93 (σ = 2.82)

avg of 5
current: 46.06 (σ = 8.85)
best: 41.38 (σ = 6.62)

avg of 12
current: 44.56 (σ = 10.29)
best: 44.56 (σ = 10.29)

Average: 48.86 (σ = 7.40)
Mean: 48.90

Time List:
1. 54.76 D' R F2 B' R U L D2 F' U' R2 B2 D2 F2 U L2 B2 R2 U L2 R'
2. 50.96 F' D2 F2 D2 F2 U2 R2 B U2 L2 R2 U B2 U' L R B' D' F2 U R
3. 54.74 U' F2 U R2 D' B2 D2 B2 U' F2 R2 L B2 U' F' R' U2 L2 F U' R'
4. 59.44 U F2 L2 D2 U' F2 L2 U' L2 B2 F L' F2 U F2 U' R F R2 D'
5. 1:08.64 R2 U R2 B2 D' R2 D' R2 F2 D L2 B' R F L' U2 R D2 F2 R'
6. 43.88 D' L D2 F2 L2 D2 L' D2 R D2 U R' B' D B2 D2 B F D'
7. 50.56 F2 B2 D L' B R2 D2 B' U F' D2 L2 F' R2 D2 B L2 F R2 B'
8. 49.36 U R D' B' U R2 B2 D' R L U2 R F2 B2 D2 R' F2 U2 F2 B
9. 44.66 U2 F L' U2 F' L2 F U D' R F D2 L2 F' U2 L2 U2 B2 L2 B' L2
10. 47.48 B D2 B' L' D2 B2 D' R2 U' D2 F' D2 R2 U2 R2 F' U2 F
11. 51.86 D' R2 F L2 F D2 F2 L2 B' R2 F2 D' F' R' D F2 R F L
12. 52.72 R U B2 R2 U' F2 U2 F2 D2 F2 R2 U' F' U2 R D U' F D2 B' D'
13. 52.75 U2 B' D2 L2 B2 R2 F D2 F D2 B' L D' B D2 F U' R F2 U2
14. 49.03 D2 B2 R U2 F2 L' R' D2 B2 L B2 F U L2 R D L' R' U R' F
15. 37.52 D' L2 B2 L2 U L2 R2 U B2 D B2 F D R' F2 L' B R D L' R
16. 32.68 F' U' L2 D' R' L B' D' R' D2 B D2 F' R2 F R2 L2 B' R2 B2
17. 37.60 R2 L B' R2 U R' D' F U F2 U2 F2 R' L' B2 L' B2 D2 B2
18. 49.14 L' F D2 B' D2 F' D2 L2 D2 F' U2 R' D2 U2 L2 U L D' B2
19. 54.72 L2 D2 F2 R' D2 F2 U2 L2 D2 L2 R2 F' U2 F D F R B' U B F'
20. 1:02.21 B' L2 D2 F' D2 L2 D2 R2 B U2 F' D' L' R F' D2 F' U' L2 B2 D
21. 32.74 D B' L' F B2 D F B U' D2 R' B2 R D2 R F2 R F2
22. 50.28 B2 R2 F2 R2 U2 F D2 F' D2 B' U2 D B' U2 F2 U R' D' U F' U2
23. 52.02 R' U' R2 F2 D' R2 B2 F2 D L2 R2 U F' L' R2 D2 B' R' B R2 F'
24. 1:02.08 R' L2 F2 D2 U' F2 D2 F2 R2 D L2 B2 L D' B D2 L' D2 F' U2 L'
25. 33.56 F2 L2 F2 D2 R2 U2 F' D2 F' L2 F' L D' F2 U' F2 L R F' D2 U'
26. 35.90 B' L2 F2 L2 U B2 U' R2 B2 F2 D2 B L' F' D R' D B L' R2
 
Logiqx said:
Do you guys ever do one handed? I've had some pain in my right hand this week so I've been doing one handed solves while it recovers.

I've been using 4LLL until this week but I decided to learn some PLLs over the past 3 days and I'm now up to 15/21.

I timed myself today and despite some large variation in my times (alg recall / execution issues), I've smashed my PBs... -11s single, -9s Ao5, -7s Ao12.

I'm very happy with the effect of 4-5 days OH practice! It almost looks like I know what I'm doing. ;)

I normally do 25 solves during a timed OH session but I rolled this session for the Ao12.

Generated By csTimer on 2015-2-20
solves/total: 26/26

single
best: 32.68
worst: 1:08.64

mean of 3
current: 43.85 (σ = 15.83)
best: 35.93 (σ = 2.82)

avg of 5
current: 46.06 (σ = 8.85)
best: 41.38 (σ = 6.62)

avg of 12
current: 44.56 (σ = 10.29)
best: 44.56 (σ = 10.29)

Average: 48.86 (σ = 7.40)
Mean: 48.90

Time List:
1. 54.76 D' R F2 B' R U L D2 F' U' R2 B2 D2 F2 U L2 B2 R2 U L2 R'
2. 50.96 F' D2 F2 D2 F2 U2 R2 B U2 L2 R2 U B2 U' L R B' D' F2 U R
3. 54.74 U' F2 U R2 D' B2 D2 B2 U' F2 R2 L B2 U' F' R' U2 L2 F U' R'
4. 59.44 U F2 L2 D2 U' F2 L2 U' L2 B2 F L' F2 U F2 U' R F R2 D'
5. 1:08.64 R2 U R2 B2 D' R2 D' R2 F2 D L2 B' R F L' U2 R D2 F2 R'
6. 43.88 D' L D2 F2 L2 D2 L' D2 R D2 U R' B' D B2 D2 B F D'
7. 50.56 F2 B2 D L' B R2 D2 B' U F' D2 L2 F' R2 D2 B L2 F R2 B'
8. 49.36 U R D' B' U R2 B2 D' R L U2 R F2 B2 D2 R' F2 U2 F2 B
9. 44.66 U2 F L' U2 F' L2 F U D' R F D2 L2 F' U2 L2 U2 B2 L2 B' L2
10. 47.48 B D2 B' L' D2 B2 D' R2 U' D2 F' D2 R2 U2 R2 F' U2 F
11. 51.86 D' R2 F L2 F D2 F2 L2 B' R2 F2 D' F' R' D F2 R F L
12. 52.72 R U B2 R2 U' F2 U2 F2 D2 F2 R2 U' F' U2 R D U' F D2 B' D'
13. 52.75 U2 B' D2 L2 B2 R2 F D2 F D2 B' L D' B D2 F U' R F2 U2
14. 49.03 D2 B2 R U2 F2 L' R' D2 B2 L B2 F U L2 R D L' R' U R' F
15. 37.52 D' L2 B2 L2 U L2 R2 U B2 D B2 F D R' F2 L' B R D L' R
16. 32.68 F' U' L2 D' R' L B' D' R' D2 B D2 F' R2 F R2 L2 B' R2 B2
17. 37.60 R2 L B' R2 U R' D' F U F2 U2 F2 R' L' B2 L' B2 D2 B2
18. 49.14 L' F D2 B' D2 F' D2 L2 D2 F' U2 R' D2 U2 L2 U L D' B2
19. 54.72 L2 D2 F2 R' D2 F2 U2 L2 D2 L2 R2 F' U2 F D F R B' U B F'
20. 1:02.21 B' L2 D2 F' D2 L2 D2 R2 B U2 F' D' L' R F' D2 F' U' L2 B2 D
21. 32.74 D B' L' F B2 D F B U' D2 R' B2 R D2 R F2 R F2
22. 50.28 B2 R2 F2 R2 U2 F D2 F' D2 B' U2 D B' U2 F2 U R' D' U F' U2
23. 52.02 R' U' R2 F2 D' R2 B2 F2 D L2 R2 U F' L' R2 D2 B' R' B R2 F'
24. 1:02.08 R' L2 F2 D2 U' F2 D2 F2 R2 D L2 B2 L D' B D2 L' D2 F' U2 L'
25. 33.56 F2 L2 F2 D2 R2 U2 F' D2 F' L2 F' L D' F2 U' F2 L R F' D2 U'
26. 35.90 B' L2 F2 L2 U B2 U' R2 B2 F2 D2 B L' F' D R' D B L' R2
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Mean: 48.90.. Nice. I never practice OH. Only one week before a competition. I also use 4LLL. Too lazy to learn PLL's.. :)
 
Schmidt said:
The ones I do differently are both U's, H, V, Z and one of the N's. The rest is just 2H algs
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sneaklyfox said:
The ones I do differently are E, H, both J's, both N's, V, Y, and Z. Oh yeah, and some of the U algs.
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TDM said:
Only U, H, Z, Na, Nb and J are different for me. For all the others, I use 2H algs.
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I've opted to do pretty much the same...

RU algs - Ua, Ub (really LU with a z rotation), Z, H - I use MU algs for 2H
RUL algs - Ja, Jb, F, V, Na, Nb - making use of an occasional z rotation where helpful
Other - Y (common RU alg containing x and z rotations)

Standard 2H...

RUF algs - T
RUD algs after an x rotation - Aa, Ab, E

TDM said:
Even R2 F' R U R U' R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F2 R2. And I use my right hand for OH.
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I'll give that one a go and it's inverse when I get around to the G-perms. Those two algs are my standard 2H algs anyway.
 
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