Older cubers discussions

[MarcelP]

Finally... a chance to look at your cases and figure out the typos.

These where the feedback in the Roux group (as you allready found out ) Not mine. Wish I was that good.. LOL

 

[h2f]

I was close to sub-22 (21.91) on that scramble: F2 U2 R2 B2 D' B2 F2 D' L2 D' L2 R' D2 F L U2 R' B' L' D' B2
LOL

Reconstruction (it was something like that):
y' // inspection
r D' r' B' // FB
r2 U' R U R2 U' R' U' M' U2 R' U R// SB
F R' F' R U R U' R'//
U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' // J perm
U M' // just luck (I sometimes forget to make white/yellow center on top before cmll)
U M U2 M // luck again

Lots of luck

alg.cubing.net

 

[MarcelP]

I was close to sub-22 (21.91) on that scramble: F2 U2 R2 B2 D' B2 F2 D' L2 D' L2 R' D2 F L U2 R' B' L' D' B2
LOL

Reconstruction (it was something like that):
y' // inspection
r D' r' B' // FB
r2 U' R U R2 U' R' U' M' U2 R' U R// SB
F R' F' R U R U' R'//
U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' // J perm
U M' // just luck (I sometimes forget to do make white/yellow center on top before cmll)
U M U2 M // luck again

alg.cubing.net

Nice! How is your improvement going with Roux? Do you think it is easy to get your CFOP times at a certain moment? Or do you think it is harder to improve with Roux?

 

[h2f]

Nice! How is your improvement going with Roux? Do you think it is easy to get your CFOP times at a certain moment? Or do you think it is harder to improve with Roux?

I belive I am slowly improving but couldn't make ao50 in last days. I do slow solves and try to recognize CMLLs but in speedsolve I use 2-look cmll. I think it would be quite easy to get my cfop times, but notice I am sub-25 (see signature). But it needs more practice and time. I hope Roux is easier for me.That's why I switched There's no rotations or mirrors etc. and I'm free making FB and it's easier for me than making cross in cfop. Thats why I think it's easier. I have a problem with cmll recognitions (must practice it more). And this stage is harder for me. If I can compare it to OLLs, OLLs are much easier. But LSE on the other way is not such big deal.

Today's ao12 in race to sub-30 thread: 30.96. And next pb in Roux: 20.88.

 

[Schmidt]

I'm the best (for now )

 

[MarcelP]

Today's ao12 in race to sub-30 thread: 30.96. And next pb in Roux: 20.88.

Awesome, you inspire me to continue with Roux, My best Ao100 is 36.xx

I'm the best (for now )

Ah, you where the first entry? LOL..

 

[sk8erman41]

I'm interested in exploring whether systematic multislotting could make F2L more efficient, so am writing software to experiment with that. It's a long time since I wrote software for fun - it's almost as much fun as cubing .

Mark, have you seen this thread before? It has some awesome F2L multislotting tricks....
[thread=24952]F2L and lookahead guide, NOT a video[/thread]

 

[h2f]

Awesome, you inspire me to continue with Roux, My best Ao100 is 36.xx

Thanks, but this thread is inspiring me. So it looks like you inspire me.

And today's ao100 33.92.

 

[mark49152]

Mark, have you seen this thread before? It has some awesome F2L multislotting tricks....
[thread=24952]F2L and lookahead guide, NOT a video[/thread]

Yeah that's a great thread. Rowan writes great, insightful posts on F2L and is one of the people that have inspired me to keep plugging away at multislotting.

 

[MarcelP]

Thanks, but this thread is inspiring me. So it looks like you inspire me.

And today's ao100 33.92.

Nice! I do think I could be faster with Roux eventually than I would have gotten with CFOP. Roux is so much more efficient. The problem is, becomming efficient. When I do first two blocks the hard core CFOP way (meaning many rotions and use inserts from F2L) all my ' Roux' solves are sub 30. Doing it the effiecient way takes up a lot of my solve. I do feel however if I would be more experienced in my times would be much better. I only have 15 - 30 minutes per day to practice. I feel that if I would have some more I would be sub 30 very soon. Right now I am focussing on becomming x2, y, y' y2 neutral. I am experiencing a lot of problems inserting a pair flipped only because (when you make a blue/yellow block red is in B, when you make blue/white block, red is on F. With CFOP when insterting you look at centers. With Roux you can not look at centers since only L en R center are in correct spot. I hope that with a little perseverence I will get used to it and do not have think about it in a solve. Right now I have to really pay attention with inserting. On the brighter side, being color neutral like this gives you much much more easy first bloks. I mean 4 - 8 moves.. On single color, single orientation I get first blocks of 20 15 - 20 moves..

Yeah that's a great thread. Rowan writes great, insightful posts on F2L and is one of the people that have inspired me to keep plugging away at multislotting.

If I was not into Roux now I would be all over that. I have seen people demonstrate it at competitions. But then, these guys cube 5 year plus...

 

[h2f]

Nice! I do think I could be faster with Roux eventually than I would have gotten with CFOP. Roux is so much more efficient. The problem is, becomming efficient. When I do first two blocks the hard core CFOP way (meaning many rotions and use inserts from F2L) all my ' Roux' solves are sub 30. Doing it the effiecient way takes up a lot of my solve. I do feel however if I would be more experienced in my times would be much better. I only have 15 - 30 minutes per day to practice. I feel that if I would have some more I would be sub 30 very soon. Right now I am focussing on becomming x2, y, y' y2 neutral. I am experiencing a lot of problems inserting a pair flipped only because (when you make a blue/yellow block red is in B, when you make blue/white block, red is on F. With CFOP when insterting you look at centers. With Roux you can not look at centers since only L en R center are in correct spot. I hope that with a little perseverence I will get used to it and do not have think about it in a solve. Right now I have to really pay attention with inserting. On the brighter side, being color neutral like this gives you much much more easy first bloks. I mean 4 - 8 moves.. On single color, single orientation I get first blocks of 20 15 - 20 moves...

I know what you mean, but I am wondering why it's not a big problem for me. And I think this is because of 3bld. I mean I practise 3bld for 6-8 months and when you solve your solve looks like: setup - alg (in OP Ja, Jb, T or Y; in M2 just M2) - undo setup. It is something similiar in Roux: you do some moves like setup and some just doing moves. It's the way I think about it. And 3bld improves your imagination skill which is usefull when you do first block. I can see an influence here.

Yesterday I've filmed ao5 with my mobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLfR24YPmo&list=UUAOQlshoDZ8rYCYe-6mqjhw

 

[MarcelP]

I know what you mean, but I am wondering why it's not a big problem for me. And I think this is because of 3bld. I mean I practise 3bld for 6-8 months and when you solve your solve looks like: setup - alg (in OP Ja, Jb, T or Y; in M2 just M2) - undo setup. It is something similiar in Roux: you do some moves like setup and some just doing moves. It's the way I think about it. And 3bld improves your imagination skill which is usefull when you do first block. I can see an influence here.

Yesterday I've filmed ao5 with my mobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLfR24YPmo&list=UUAOQlshoDZ8rYCYe-6mqjhw

Very nice! Your LSE is twice as fast as mine. In fact I think my first two blocks are just as fast as yours (17 - 20 secs), but I take another 15-20 secs for LSE.. I will film a few solves tomorrow to investigate.. I just did my first 12 solves of this day:

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2014-12-11
solves/total: 12/12

single
best: 29.33
worst: 42.35

mean of 3
current: 36.84 (σ = 4.77)
best: 32.80 (σ = 4.83)

avg of 5
current: 37.01 (σ = 2.41)
best: 32.99 (σ = 4.64)

avg of 12
current: 36.43 (σ = 3.98)
best: 36.43 (σ = 3.98)

Average: 36.43 (σ = 3.98)
Mean: 36.33

Time List:
1. 38.67 U D2 R2 L2 D2 L' D' B' L' B2 R F D2 F2 U' L D' R D2 R' F L2 D2 F2 L
2. 39.71 R L2 F' L2 R2 B D L2 U F L B L D F2 R2 L' U' F2 L U B F' U F'
3. 38.49 L U' F2 R' U' R' D2 R2 L F U2 D2 B' L2 B2 F R2 U2 L U2 L F' U2 L R'
4. 29.91 F R2 F2 D L' R D B2 U2 L' B U R' D2 U2 R2 D' L' B2 R' U B D' F D2
5. 41.79 D R F2 B L' R2 F' L B' R2 D R2 B L2 U B L D' R L2 F L' D L F
6. 30.75 U2 L2 R2 D2 B2 L' R U D2 R' D F D' B2 F' D2 R F' U2 D2 L' U2 L F' D
7. 29.33 F2 U2 D2 L2 U' B2 U' F D2 L' B L2 D L U L2 D L2 R' F L U' L2 F' L2
8. 38.32 B' R B R2 B2 U R' F2 U L2 F D' U B F2 R' B2 U R' D B D L' B2 F
9. 38.49 F' B2 U L2 R2 U L F' R D2 L2 D B R2 D F R2 D' L2 U2 B D' B2 D2 R
10. 34.23 F2 B2 U F' D' L R' U2 L2 R' D2 R' F D B2 R' B2 U2 F' D F2 R' F2 U D'
11. 42.35 D L B2 L' B2 L2 B2 R F B' L' F' B2 D2 L2 R2 D2 U' F2 U L2 U' R' U F
12. 33.95 U B' F' R' F B R2 B2 D U2 B' R2 D U L' R2 D2 F L2 R' F2 U2 B2 F R'

Nothing special, but two sub 30's and one 30.xx.. These are the signs for me that becomming sub 30 should be easy

 

[GuRoux]

I know what you mean, but I am wondering why it's not a big problem for me. And I think this is because of 3bld. I mean I practise 3bld for 6-8 months and when you solve your solve looks like: setup - alg (in OP Ja, Jb, T or Y; in M2 just M2) - undo setup. It is something similiar in Roux: you do some moves like setup and some just doing moves. It's the way I think about it. And 3bld improves your imagination skill which is usefull when you do first block. I can see an influence here.

Yesterday I've filmed ao5 with my mobile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLfR24YPmo&list=UUAOQlshoDZ8rYCYe-6mqjhw

nice solves, that cube looks to small for your big hands.

 

[h2f]

Very nice! Your LSE is twice as fast as mine. In fact I think my first two blocks are just as fast as yours (17 - 20 secs), but I take another 15-20 secs for LSE.. I will film a few solves tomorrow to investigate..

Thank You. As you can see we're not far in Roux.

nice solves, that cube looks to small for your big hands.

Thanks. It's Gans III in normal size (I don't know if they are in small version).

 

[MarcelP]

I now know everything after blocks is killing me. Three solves:

1) first two blocks 14 secs
2) first two blocks 15 secs
3) first two blocks 15 secs

62. 31.78 D2 B2 R2 U2 F2 L' F2 L' F2 D2 U' B' R2 D' U2 R U' B2 R'
63. 40.00 D' R2 D' B2 D F2 U L2 B2 D2 U' B' F2 R' F2 U' B2 D B' F L
64. 32.48 F' D2 B' D2 R2 F' U2 R2 B D B' L2 D2 B' D' R' B2 U' F'

[video=youtube_share;mir297HNh1g]http://youtu.be/mir297HNh1g[/video]

 

[h2f]

Nice solves. LSE is a matter of practice. I think you will recognize faster soon what case there is.

 

[CheesecakeCuber]

Pretty good solves. Just need to work on LSE tps and look-ahead, track the UL and UR pieces while orienting. For 4c, you can learn Brusinque's recog method or the Lau BU method when doing FUUU cases (the 3 cycles).

For blocks, just focus on efficiency and of course look ahead

 

[MarcelP]

For 4c, you can learn Brusinque's recog method or the Lau BU method when doing FUUU cases (the 3 cycles).

Thanks!! I have searched both and found one video on Brusinque's reco but nothing on Lau BU method . I will look into practicing Brusinque today.. See if I get it.

 

[MarcelP]

For 4c, you can learn Brusinque's recog method or the Lau BU method when doing FUUU cases (the 3 cycles).

I did found out about BU method and made a video about it:

https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?50718-BU-method-in-step-4c-(Roux)

 

[h2f]

Thanks for video. It is something that I think about but couldn't find the rule how to make l4e most efficient way.