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Thanks. I try to vary my turn speed slightly throughout the solve. Using this approach, I get my "good times" (relative term) pretty effortlessly but I constantly need to remind myself not to rush!

Today was also the first time I did timed solves with the cube starting on the desk. For some reason it actually seemed to calm me down...
Yeah, you made it seem like those sub 20s were no big deal! I always like watching solves thst are in the ballpark of my speed. Your turning style has so much flow! I haven't ever uploaded any of my solves, I want to see if I can get a sub 19 ao5 on video tomorrow and I'll post it here.
 
Great! I have seen so many thing I do not use myself. This video will help my solves a lot. I must watch it a few times again. Thanks!
Sorry if it isn't clear; it was really hard to find a good angle where you could see the U layer. But I was purposely vague on inserting the middle edges, especially how you insert them to make sure they aren't flipped. I find it's better to learn when you have to do some of it for yourself rather than being told everything.
Great videos, thanks TDM and Logiqx. Logiqx, you made that average look so easy! I feel like I turn twice that fast and frantically, with worse times. I guess that's the point :)

TDM, did you try my 5x5 edge hiding idea?
Thanks! Yes I did, and I'm still practising it because I still suck at it ;) I've been doing less 5x5 recently though; since I got my AoSu I've done 4x4 the most.
 
If only I could do similar solves most of the time! ;)

Logiqx, you made that average look so easy! I feel like I turn twice that fast and frantically, with worse times. I guess that's the point :)

Thanks Mark. I didn't realise it at the time but I guess it shows how we can get sub-20 times with relative ease through slow turning... variable speed during F2L then fast for LS, OLL and PLL.

It's all well and good a sub-10 or even sub-15 solver saying they can sub-20 with slow turning but you never know what other experience they are drawing upon.

Yeah, you made it seem like those sub 20s were no big deal! I always like watching solves that are in the ballpark of my speed. Your turning style has so much flow!

Thanks. I'll look forward to your video. How about one for 4x4x4 as well? :)
 
Ye-ha... I got a full set of PBs today!

This was despite an average of around 22s after 20 solves. :)

number of times: 102/102
best time: 14.38
worst time: 33.41

current avg5: 20.45 (σ = 1.22)
best avg5: 17.83 (σ = 1.91)

current avg12: 20.36 (σ = 2.72)
best avg12: 19.32 (σ = 2.43)

current avg50: 20.93 (σ = 2.19)
best avg50: 20.60 (σ = 1.75)

current avg100: 21.16 (σ = 2.12)
best avg100: 21.13 (σ = 2.13)

session avg: 21.13 (σ = 2.02)
session mean: 21.21
 
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Ye-ha... I got a full set of PBs today!

This was despite an average of around 22s after 20 solves. :)

number of times: 102/102
best time: 14.38
worst time: 33.41

current avg5: 20.45 (σ = 1.22)
best avg5: 17.83 (σ = 1.91)

current avg12: 20.36 (σ = 2.72)
best avg12: 19.32 (σ = 2.43)

current avg50: 20.93 (σ = 2.19)
best avg50: 20.60 (σ = 1.75)

current avg100: 21.16 (σ = 2.12)
best avg100: 21.13 (σ = 2.13)

session avg: 21.13 (σ = 2.02)
session mean: 21.21

Congrats! That is real nice to break all PB's in a day. I don't think I have had ever. :)
 
I filmed a few solves today. You clearly can see my style is so much different from Logiqx. Much more pauses, but slight higher TPS resulting in roughly same times.

57. 17.58 R2 F2 U' L2 B2 U R2 U2 F2 D R2 F D B' U L D' R2 D' U'
58. DNF U' B' D F U2 F2 L U2 B' L2 U2 D R2 L2 B2 U' R2 D2 F2 R2 // messed up from begin to end :)
59. 17.81 U2 F2 L2 U R2 U L2 R2 U R2 U F' D2 L' F' L' U L B U R'
60. 18.66 U2 L2 B2 U2 R F2 R2 U2 R U2 L' U L' F L B2 L' U2 L2 B2
61. 20.50 D2 U' R2 D' B2 D L2 F2 U' R2 U2 F L' B R2 D B' L' D' L D'

@Schmidt, In the video (first solve) you can see not all my T-perms take 5 secs as in the competition :)
[video=youtube_share;ONMfdA5BW1o]http://youtu.be/ONMfdA5BW1o[/video]
 
I filmed a few solves today. You clearly can see my style is so much different from Logiqx. Much more pauses, but slight higher TPS resulting in roughly same times.

57. 17.58 R2 F2 U' L2 B2 U R2 U2 F2 D R2 F D B' U L D' R2 D' U'
58. DNF U' B' D F U2 F2 L U2 B' L2 U2 D R2 L2 B2 U' R2 D2 F2 R2 // messed up from begin to end :)
59. 17.81 U2 F2 L2 U R2 U L2 R2 U R2 U F' D2 L' F' L' U L B U R'
60. 18.66 U2 L2 B2 U2 R F2 R2 U2 R U2 L' U L' F L B2 L' U2 L2 B2
61. 20.50 D2 U' R2 D' B2 D L2 F2 U' R2 U2 F L' B R2 D B' L' D' L D'

@Schmidt, In the video (first solve) you can see not all my T-perms take 5 secs as in the competition :)
http://youtu.be/ONMfdA5BW1o

nice one!
 
Congrats! That is real nice to break all PB's in a day. I don't think I have had ever. :)

They were my first PBs in the last couple of weeks. I wasn't too worried though because my session averages were improving during that time and good solves are starting to feel normal.

I also started to integrate new Gc and Gd algorithms today. I never liked the traditional algs (prone to lockup) so I have switched to the same Gc as Mats and Felix. I use the inverse of Gc for Gd which isn't very common but it flows well and I like inverses!
 
Me too. I quess we will never know.. ;)
Not sure. I think more like Marcel. I try to be smooth and don't feel like I pause for long, at least on my sub-20 solves, but I haven't videoed myself to check, and maybe my pauses are worse than they seem.

One day I will create a YouTube channel and upload a vid, but don't hold your breath...
 
I take a break from cubing (mainly for exams and some chess, but not at the same time :p) and you've nearly caught up with me. I need to practice more...

And 5x5? I never learn't to completely solve that (can do all but last few edge pairings).
 
I take a break from cubing (mainly for exams and some chess, but not at the same time :p) and you've nearly caught up with me. I need to practice more...

And 5x5? I never learn't to completely solve that (can do all but last few edge pairings).

Hey Thomas, last few edge parings can be done with one alg. Maybe I will shoot a video of that this week with all cases.. :)
 
If only I could do similar solves most of the time! ;)



Thanks Mark. I didn't realise it at the time but I guess it shows how we can get sub-20 times with relative ease through slow turning... variable speed during F2L then fast for LS, OLL and PLL.

It's all well and good a sub-10 or even sub-15 solver saying they can sub-20 with slow turning but you never know what other experience they are drawing upon.



Thanks. I'll look forward to your video. How about one for 4x4x4 as well? :)
Here you go! Please excuse my loud breathing, my face was right next to the camera, so you might want to mute it. Really bad 3x3 average of 21.07 because I get nervous on cam and never get a good average, but there were a couple good 19s. The 4x4 solve was pretty good since I only had to have one good solve, VS an average. 4x4 is definitely my favorite event, with 5x5 a close second.
 
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Congrats! That is real nice to break all PB's in a day. I don't think I have had ever. :)
Really? Whenever I get a new PB ao100, all the other ones are always PBs except for sometimes single.

Ye-ha... I got a full set of PBs today!

This was despite an average of around 22s after 20 solves. :)

number of times: 102/102
best time: 14.38
worst time: 33.41

current avg5: 20.45 (σ = 1.22)
best avg5: 17.83 (σ = 1.91)

current avg12: 20.36 (σ = 2.72)
best avg12: 19.32 (σ = 2.43)

current avg50: 20.93 (σ = 2.19)
best avg50: 20.60 (σ = 1.75)

current avg100: 21.16 (σ = 2.12)
best avg100: 21.13 (σ = 2.13)

session avg: 21.13 (σ = 2.02)
session mean: 21.21
Nice man! You are on the road to sub 20 too!

I filmed a few solves today. You clearly can see my style is so much different from Logiqx. Much more pauses, but slight higher TPS resulting in roughly same times.

57. 17.58 R2 F2 U' L2 B2 U R2 U2 F2 D R2 F D B' U L D' R2 D' U'
58. DNF U' B' D F U2 F2 L U2 B' L2 U2 D R2 L2 B2 U' R2 D2 F2 R2 // messed up from begin to end :)
59. 17.81 U2 F2 L2 U R2 U L2 R2 U R2 U F' D2 L' F' L' U L B U R'
60. 18.66 U2 L2 B2 U2 R F2 R2 U2 R U2 L' U L' F L B2 L' U2 L2 B2
61. 20.50 D2 U' R2 D' B2 D L2 F2 U' R2 U2 F L' B R2 D B' L' D' L D'

@Schmidt, In the video (first solve) you can see not all my T-perms take 5 secs as in the competition :)
http://youtu.be/ONMfdA5BW1o
Nice T-perm Marcel ;) that DNF was unfortunate, but the other solves were really good.

Interesting to see how our turning styles differ for similar times. I wonder how Mark turns?
Idk, you both seem to have really smooth turning styles. I bet Mark would be the same since his solves are usually really consistent. I have a really sketchy turning style.
 
Here you go! Please excuse my loud breathing, my face was right next to the camera, so you might want to mute it. Really bad 3x3 average of 21.07 because I get nervous on cam and never get a good average, but there were a couple good 19s. The 4x4 solve was pretty good since I only had to have one good solve, VS an average. 4x4 is definitely my favorite event, with 5x5 a close second.

Nice! Looking at your 4X4 solve I think I should be able to pull that off. But in real my solves are almost always over 2 minutes. Your 3X3 style is very similair to mine. Same speed, same pauses :) Nice to see a green cross between the white and black crosses. CN people are just a bit cooler than the rest. :)
 
Congrats! That is real nice to break all PB's in a day. I don't think I have had ever. :)

Ye-ha... I got a full set of PBs today!

This was despite an average of around 22s after 20 solves. :)

number of times: 102/102
best time: 14.38
worst time: 33.41

current avg5: 20.45 (σ = 1.22)
best avg5: 17.83 (σ = 1.91)

current avg12: 20.36 (σ = 2.72)
best avg12: 19.32 (σ = 2.43)

current avg50: 20.93 (σ = 2.19)
best avg50: 20.60 (σ = 1.75)

current avg100: 21.16 (σ = 2.12)
best avg100: 21.13 (σ = 2.13)

session avg: 21.13 (σ = 2.02)
session mean: 21.21

I filmed a few solves today. You clearly can see my style is so much different from Logiqx. Much more pauses, but slight higher TPS resulting in roughly same times.

57. 17.58 R2 F2 U' L2 B2 U R2 U2 F2 D R2 F D B' U L D' R2 D' U'
58. DNF U' B' D F U2 F2 L U2 B' L2 U2 D R2 L2 B2 U' R2 D2 F2 R2 // messed up from begin to end :)
59. 17.81 U2 F2 L2 U R2 U L2 R2 U R2 U F' D2 L' F' L' U L B U R'
60. 18.66 U2 L2 B2 U2 R F2 R2 U2 R U2 L' U L' F L B2 L' U2 L2 B2
61. 20.50 D2 U' R2 D' B2 D L2 F2 U' R2 U2 F L' B R2 D B' L' D' L D'

@Schmidt, In the video (first solve) you can see not all my T-perms take 5 secs as in the competition :)
http://youtu.be/ONMfdA5BW1o

Nice! Looking at your 4X4 solve I think I should be able to pull that off. But in real my solves are almost always over 2 minutes. Your 3X3 style is very similair to mine. Same speed, same pauses :) Nice to see a green cross between the white and black crosses. CN people are just a bit cooler than the rest. :)
Yeah, i bet if you only did 4x4 for a week or two like you are 5x5, you could get sub 1:30 pretty quick. I really wish that I was color neutral, but I am not. When I restickered that cube a long time ago, I switched it to the Japenese color scheme for fun so you probably saw the blue on top and thought I was working on green. I really respect you for being CN though, I need to actually work on that sometime.
 
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Yeah, i bet if you only did 4x4 for a week or two like you are 5x5, you could get sub 1:30 pretty quick. I really wish that I was color neutral, but I am not. When I restickered that cube a long time ago, I switched it to the Japenese color scheme for fun so you probably saw the blue on top and thought I was working on green. I really respect you for being CN though, I need to actually work on that sometime.

Yeah I saw the blue top color.. :) Next month I will start 4X4 serious practice.. First I want to be sub 4 on the 5X5. :)
 
Nice man! You are on the road to sub 20 too!

Hopefully... that's the general idea and I suspect another new target will appear once I get there!

This journey started off by wanting to solve in 3:00 then 2:00 then 1:30, 1:00, 0:45, 0:30, 0:25, 0:20.

Thanks for showing your videos. I remember my first video caused some nerve problems as well!
 
CN people are just a bit cooler than the rest. :)

Hehe. I'm kind of glad that I switched to CN when I was around 40 seconds but I find one small downside...

If I butcher an MU alg during PLL, I usually complete the solve using L6E but if I don't have white or yellow on top, I find it tricky. I use white/yellow top/bottom for methods with edge orientation steps, including Roux and other corners first methods.
 
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