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New PB :)
4:51.98 Lw Fw' Bw2 D' Bw Lw2 Bw' U F' Fw2 L' Dw D Bw Lw' Uw' D2 Rw' D Fw Lw U2 F L F B Rw' F' U2 L2 Lw2 U' B' R2 F' Fw R' B L F2 L2 Rw' F Bw R2 Bw' Uw' D F' Fw U2 Uw Dw B2 Dw R F' Fw' Bw L2

EDIT:
Mean: 5:00.50
Average: 4:57.49
Best time: 4:37.66
Median: 5:00.06
Worst time: 5:35.40
Standard deviation: 19.65

Best average of 5: 4:53.73
2-6 - 4:51.98 (5:08.76) 4:41.08 (4:37.66) 5:08.13
 
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New 3X3 Ao100 PB :) Jay! Did not expect that all since I have been doing nothing but 5X
Generated By csTimer on 2014-10-12
solves/total: 110/110

single
best: 15.31
worst: 29.84

mean of 3
current: 19.24 (σ = 2.61)
best: 17.33 (σ = 0.89)

avg of 5
current: 20.99 (σ = 0.56)
best: 17.76 (σ = 0.60)

avg of 12
current: 19.99 (σ = 1.89)
best: 18.86 (σ = 1.54)

avg of 50
current: 19.79 (σ = 1.47)
best: 19.56 (σ = 1.60)

avg of 100
current: 19.99 (σ = 1.72)
best: 19.92 (σ = 1.65)

Average: 19.99 (σ = 1.65)
Mean: 20.07
 
Awesome Marcel! Good to see that you are still improving even when you are focused on 5x5.

Yeah, it is nice to take a brake at 3X3 for a while. I have had not one single brake since the day I came here. Doing 5X5 is also really fun.

Nice one Marcel. I found that big cubes made my 3x3 slower!

Going from a 5X5 for 3X3 feels like a breeze to me. Lookahead is so easy with these big cubies on a 3X3. And a 3X3 turns so easy, fingerticks are possible ;) I have been doing a lot of 3X3 up untill the last competition, so it will take a while before times become worse I guess.
Nice one Marcel! I look forward to posting here everyday and becoming aquainted with you?

Thanks. :)
 
New PBs on 5x5: 4:26 ao5, and 3:36 single. I'm loving 5x5 and credit to my AoChuang for that :D

I tried using your cross method (which is amazing btw, thanks) and because it solves all four cross edges, I've been trying to see where's best to hide the DF cross edge - I usually, after seeing which back tredge I'm going to solve, will hide the cross edge in the other slot. That way, after solving the tredge and then the F2L pair, I still have the cross edge hidden, and I have both the back slots filled, meaning it's easier to find the pieces I'm looking for to solve that other tredge.
I tried your idea of solving the back two F2L slots and found it didn't work too well for me, but I definitely like filling those slots early to help lookahead. So here's what I've been doing.

1. Solve cross midges CFOP style, then widges Hoya style.
2. Hide the FD tredge by F' R'.
3. For whatever random midge just ended up in FD, now solve its widges, Hoya style.
4. Hide this dredge by F L.

Here's the trick: At this point, both back tredges are filled, so I don't bother to restore the cross yet.

5. Edge pairing using AvG or similar between the front slots.
6. Restore cross with L' R F and adjust D face if necessary.
7. Bake in a hot oven and enjoy with a glass of red.

This saves a lot of messing around trying to fill those back slots some other way. It's tricky at first getting used to FD not being solved because sometimes a midge you need can be trapped there. The first time I get a solved tredge on slicing back, I'll do an F or F' to tuck it into FD and then problem solved.
 
I went to watch Cuthberts Open in Hatfield yesterday. It was cool to see some of the top solvers in action. :)

I've uploaded a few videos to my YouTube channel. I checked everything this morning to ensure there is no controversy.

The turn speed of Alex Lau during his L6E is ridiculous!
 
I tried your idea of solving the back two F2L slots and found it didn't work too well for me, but I definitely like filling those slots early to help lookahead. So here's what I've been doing.

1. Solve cross midges CFOP style, then widges Hoya style.
2. Hide the FD tredge by F' R'.
3. For whatever random midge just ended up in FD, now solve its widges, Hoya style.
4. Hide this dredge by F L.

Here's the trick: At this point, both back tredges are filled, so I don't bother to restore the cross yet.

5. Edge pairing using AvG or similar between the front slots.
6. Restore cross with L' R F and adjust D face if necessary.
7. Bake in a hot oven and enjoy with a glass of red.

This saves a lot of messing around trying to fill those back slots some other way. It's tricky at first getting used to FD not being solved because sometimes a midge you need can be trapped there. The first time I get a solved tredge on slicing back, I'll do an F or F' to tuck it into FD and then problem solved.
That's a nice idea. I'm just trying every 5x5 method I see now until I find something decent; I'm at college now and don't have my 5x5 but I'll try that when I get back. I never thought of keeping random unsolved edges in the back slots.
Also it's an excuse to use AvG, which I love, yay.
 
I wish someone would make an instruction video of that :)
It's worth working through AvG's beginner example.

I use a similar approach based on what I do for 4x4. Do you use 3-2-3 on 4x4? If so, try the same approach on 5x5, but looking for midges and slicing them (three layers) into place to build partial tredges.

I find it so much easier than trying to build whole tredges at a time via freeslice.
 
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