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ThomasJE

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So, I tried that scramble, and got a 13.49 scramble on camera (got a 13.28 off camera). I got a multislot that was cancelled out by a 4LLL (damn G perms (and N) I don't know). I'll be getting that up soon with a reconstruction.

EDIT: The reconstruction:

L2 D' B2 R2 U' F2 U B2 F2 D F2 R' L' D' R2 B R U F

x' // Inspection
D' R' U' r' // Cross
U R U' R' // F2L 1
L' U2 L R' U R // F2L 2&3 (accidental multislot)
y' L' U2 L U2 L' U L // F2L 4
U' y' F U R U' R' F' // EO
y' x U R' U' L U R U' r' // CO
y' x L2' D2' L' U' L D2' L' U r' // CP
y2 R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2' // EP
View at alg.garron.us

56 HTM / 13.46 = 4.16 TPS

Had I got the 13.28 on camera, I would have had 4.22 TPS.

And I can't attach the file because it's too big. And I don't have YouTube. :(
 
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Ok, this week, I did one hour dedicated Cross training every day. Nothing else.

I just did a timed av of 12 and broke my av of 3 and av of 5 and av of 12!

Mean: 37.66
Average: 37.69
Best time: 30.24
Median: 38.56
Worst time: 44.86
Standard deviation: 5.00

Best average of 5: 35.93
1-5 - 31.34 34.61 (30.24) 41.84 (44.86)

Best average of 12: 37.69
1-12 - 31.34 34.61 (30.24) 41.84 (44.86) 41.05 41.99 34.89 37.26 43.43 30.59 39.86

1. 31.34 U' B2 F2 R2 D L2 F2 U' B2 D U2 F' R' F R L2 B' L2 U2 B'
2. 34.61 D' L2 F2 D2 B2 L2 B2 U R2 B2 U R B' D U2 L U' F2 L2 D B' U
3. 30.24 B2 F2 D' R2 U' F2 R2 L2 U' L2 U' B D' F' R D' B2 D B R F D'
4. 41.84 D L2 F2 U2 L2 D' R2 D' R2 F2 D R' F' U B L2 D' R2 B2 R B2 U
5. 44.86 D' R2 B2 D' B2 F2 U' B2 U2 L2 F' L2 U F' U2 L D2 F D L2
6. 41.05 D' R2 U L2 U' F2 L2 D' F2 L2 D F' D R' B L' F D2 L U R2 U'
7. 41.99 R2 F2 U L2 D2 R2 U F2 R2 U L' U R U F L' U' F2 D2 L B' U'
8. 34.89 L2 U2 R2 F2 U' B2 D' B2 R2 F2 R' L2 B R' L' B R2 U B' F' D'
9. 37.26 U' R2 B2 U F2 L2 U R2 U2 F2 U L B U' R U' L' F2 U2 B' L2 U
10. 43.43 B2 D2 F2 U' L2 D' U2 F2 L2 U' F2 R' B' D2 B F L2 U' R' D B
11. 30.59 D L2 U2 R2 D R2 L2 F2 R2 D' L2 F U' R U2 B D U R B L' U'
12. 39.86 D' B2 F2 D2 B2 L2 U' F2 D L2 F2 R' B' R' L2 U2 R F D' B'

These are easy crosses, or I am getting better at crosses. I might add, I took more than 15 seconds per solve inspection time. Sometimes up to maybe a minute.
 
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37.69 avg12, NICE :eek:

the inspection time doesnt matter, since this is for practice :) have you tried solving the cross blindfolded? as in, figure it out as inspection, then solve it just because you already know all the moves you want to do.
 

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37.69 avg12, NICE :eek:

have you tried solving the cross blindfolded?
Yes, I have been practicing by looking at the cube, remember at least 3 edges than look away and start solving. I am just not ready for 4 edges at one time, but this is already a big improvement because I do take much less turns now. The only bad side effect is that I have lost a few PLL's LOL.... Doing crossed only does make me forget everything else.. ha ha ha..
 

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Yes, I will continue with the cross training. And I know full PLL for two weeks or so.. So some of them are still quite slow. Stupid N-perms for example. Most of them are fully wedged into memory but some of the G-perms F-perm seem to hard to remember on the R U and R U' and R' U and R' U' parts.
 

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Are you actually memorizing the notation? Try remembering them visually. Just find something to follow.

For example, in Gb (F' U' F R2 u R' U R U' R u' R2), the first F' U' F just removes a pair resting it on top of a 2x2 square on the right. The R2 flips the pair and square upside down so that the square is on top of the pair. The u moves the square off of the pair, and then the pair stands up at the back with the next R'. The square then splits in half with the U and the R brings the pair back to the bottom. The square reforms with the U', and the proceeding R creates a big sexy 2x3 block. The u just puts it all back to the original side and R2 places it. Gd (f R f' R2 u' R U' R' U R' u R2) is the same thing mirrored, just a different way of removing the pair at the start.

There are a lot of ways to remember algs, but visually works best for me and I would imagine many others.
 

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Something I do to remember algorithms is drilling the finger tricks for them
 

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I was getting very slow averages the last few days and then this average of three popped up:

Average: 29.87

1. 24.87 D L2 U2 R2 D R2 L2 F2 R2 D' L2 F U' R U2 B D U R B L' U'
2. 32.45 U' B2 U2 R2 L2 F2 D2 R2 D R2 D' L' U2 R F' D F U B2 F
3. 32.28 D L2 B2 L2 U' R2 B2 U' R2 F2 U2 F' D B2 L2 D L' B2 U' R

A true freak accident ;)

[video=youtube_share;AWX6qpDjr2A]http://youtu.be/AWX6qpDjr2A[/video]
 

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Nice! No freak accident. You're getting better! I enjoy following your progress. Although cross training and F2L look ahead is really important, I think sometime down the line you'll need better LL fingertricks.
 

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Nice! No freak accident. You're getting better! I enjoy following your progress. Although cross training and F2L look ahead is really important, I think sometime down the line you'll need better LL fingertricks.
Thanks! Yes, my PLL need great attention as well. But you know, I am really happy that I know the PLLs and that is much faster than multiple look PLL. So I decided that for me it is much to soon to do real PLL training. I watched your PLL attack video. That is just awesome. I know I NEVER will be that fast. I think I need to keep working on crosses as well as it does not come naturally for me. Crosses are still difficult although I am improving.
 
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Something I do to remember algorithms is drilling the finger tricks for them
Bumping into this thread a week late, but just to say "yep I do this too". The letters don't tell me much.. but when I repeatedly do the moves starting on a solved state cube I will remember much better. Also.. it is fun to do because you recognize other cases where you might use this algorithm as well instead of another.
 

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Ok, my first official times.

Average of 5 40.04
41.80 37.72 40.59 (60.43) (34.09)

Fastest solve:

[video=youtube_share;Jj6Z0Ron-S4]http://youtu.be/Jj6Z0Ron-S4[/video]

I am really happy with this result. I was sooo nervous that I almost had no control over my hands. I messed one up and had to start solving from the cross over and still finished in one minute.. LOL.. Yes, competition is fun!!
 

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Nice! That may be hard to reconstruct though - it's not the angle I'm used to, and the camera is really zoomed out. I'll give it a go though. Next time, maybe put the camera right in front of the table (unless it's a bit un-nerving :p).
 

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Nice! That may be hard to reconstruct though
That is almost impossble. I asked this sweet lady to film my solve and she filmed from the audience of course.. I thought it would be fun to have my first few competition solves on video.. Btw, I realised that a few weeks ago I had 48 seconds average. And solving at home is much easier so I should be really happy with an official 40.04 average ;)
 
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