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Here are the goals I posted in the goals thread:-

Make it to at least Worlds and UKC
3BLD: sub-1:10 official, average sub-1 at home
4BLD: sub-6 official, average sub-5 at home
5BLD: sub-20 official
MBLD: 10 points official
6BLD: success
4x4: sub-1 official average and global at home
5x5: sub-2 official average and global at home (stretch goal)

Have a great holiday season everybody!
 
About 2 weeks away from comp (which are clearly not as frequent in my neck of the woods as UK comps!). Pre-comp:

  • Lots of timed solves daily
  • Continued cross drills and blind pair practice in slow solves
  • PLL spamming to mitigate PLL amnesia (I have not been sticking to this lately)
  • Solve in noisy/distracting environments (also have not been doing this enough)
  • Relearn Varasano/Ortega for 2x2
Post-comp:

  • Turn the timer off and only do timed check-ins once or twice a week at most
  • Continue expanding known OLLs
  • Re-evaluate where the lowest hanging fruit is for improvement with consistent sub 30 being the next target
 
Goals for 2017...
  • Finish learning OLL (top priority)
  • Be globally sub-17 @ 3x3 (currently sub-19)
  • Be globally sub-1:15 @ 4x4 (currently floating just under 1:30, after about 6 weeks)
  • Sub-10 3x3 single
  • Sub-1 4x4 single
  • Improve at 5x5 (currently takes about 5 mins, after about 6/7 timed solves - no idea what 'good' is at 5x5, but maybe sub-3... is that too ambitious?)
  • Maybe learn pyra. I used to know a few L3E algs, but I've forgotten them.
  • Buy and solve a 6x6. Get relatively fast at it.
  • Don't give up cubing when I get well.
  • Get well.
Not necessarily in that order.
 
  • Improve at 5x5 (currently takes about 5 mins, after about 6/7 timed solves - no idea what 'good' is at 5x5, but maybe sub-3... is that too ambitious?)
I run just under 2:00 on 4x4, and roughly 3:45 on 5x5 with I think one sub-3 single. If you're running sub-1:30 on 4x4 I think sub-3 on 5x5 is very reasonable, maybe even as low as sub-2:30.
 
@pipkiksass
I average anywhere from 1:25 to1:30 on 4x4 and am currently averaging about 2:45 on 5x5. I feel like I could get below 2:40 and possibly as low as 2:30 with more focused practice. (I've only ever done timed solves as practice)

Considering you've already matched my 4x4 times. I'm sure you'll be in the 2:30 range once you become comfortable with your method
 
Thanks @kbrune, @mark49152 - nice consistent answers: if I'm looking to average 1:15 for 4x4 then 2:30 with a similar amount of work. I think I prefer 4x4, marginally, and will likely have to invest a fair amount of time to shave 10 seconds off. Ergo, I think 3:00 is a reasonable goal for 5x5. I'm thinking there may be 2:30ish singles.

I've just done my longest ever 5x5 session to date, with a stonking 6 solves! Average was just over 4:30, with a 4:08 single, which (unsurprisingly) is PB. I think I spend quite a lot of time looking for edges. I have a feeling this and centres will just improve naturally with practice, I'm already finding that last 2 centres are getting easier. I just use intuitive commutators to make a 2x1 block on one face, and then to move the matching single piece around on the same slice until I pair it up. I'm sure there's a library of cases and algs, but (as with F2L), I much prefer the intuitive approach, except for very awkward cases.

3x3 stage is much more awkward than on 4x4, where most PLL and OLL algs can just about be used. I use a lot of M slice moves on 3x3 for both OLL and PLL, which doesn't translate nicely. Again, I'm sure this will come with practice. I'm reluctant to learn a significant number of new algs just for 3x3 stage on big cubes, especially when I still need to learn full OLL (**slaps self on wrist**), but can feel it going that way. I think I just need to re-learn my beginner's R/U H and U perm algs, then 2-look some big cube PLLs, maybe. What approaches do others here take to big-cube LL?

I can see times falling fairly quickly at first, before improvements start to come with a little more difficulty, but I think 3:00 is reasonably feasible.
 
What approaches do others here take to big-cube LL?
I use quite a bit of 2-look OLL or PLL as I haven't got motivated to learn alternative algs. I have tried to adopt my 3x3 algs wherever they are workable though. For example, I used to 2-look G perms on 5x5 but after some practice I can now do all my RUD 3x3 G perms.
 
@pipkiksass
I haven't learned any big cube specific 3x3 algs. I'm sure it would help if I did. But I don't have patience or enough time to learn event specific algs unless of course my focus is on that event ie: bld events these days.

So when it comes to 3x3 stage I use exactly what I use for 3x3 no matter if it's OH or big cubes. Recognition of OLLs and PLLs were slow at first for 4x4 and up. But I got used to it. I use 1 look OLL and PLL everywhere. I like it that way because I still get 3x3 practice during other events.

Edge pairing was always a nightmare for me on 5x5. I was at 3:15-3:30 average for a long time. Only in the last 6 months did my times drop under 3 min. 5x5 has become one of my favorite events.

I get frustrated with 4x4. For some reason I haven't spent any time to figure out. It's the event I see the least improvement on. I find pieces easier to find on 5x5 then on 4x4. Weird I know.
 
I just use regular 3x3 OLL and PLL algs on big cubes. I struggled at first, but now can do anything I can do on 3x3 on anything up to 7x7.

Personally I'm averaging about 1:40 on 4x4 and about 2:45 on 5x5, so my 5x5 times are less than double 4x4. I wonder if maybe I just suck at Hoya (which I use on 4x4 but not on 5x5) but then again, my 4x4 times were worse before I started using Hoya. Realistically it's probably just that I practice 5x5 more.
 
In my case it's the other way around, my 4x4 times are comparably faster with PB Ao100 below 1:23 and just marginally below 3:00 at 5x5 but it also varies with what event I'm practicing at the moment. I think I have more room for improvement now on 5x5 than on 4x4.

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3x3OH PB, 22.103 (CMLL skip, 39 STM, 1.76 TPS)

2726 24-dic-2016 10:11:15 00:22.103 U' L2 D' R2 D R2 D' B2 D R2 U F U' F2 L B F2 R2 B2 F' L'
z2 y
F U M U' Lw' U L' U2 L2 U2
z2 Lw' U M2 U2 L U' L' U' M U2 Lw' U Lw
U M U M U M' U M U2 M2 U M' U2 M' U2 M2

LSE could have been so much efficient, 9 moves instead of 16 :mad:
 
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I use quite a bit of 2-look OLL or PLL as I haven't got motivated to learn alternative algs. I have tried to adopt my 3x3 algs wherever they are workable though. For example, I used to 2-look G perms on 5x5 but after some practice I can now do all my RUD 3x3 G perms.
I can see me ending up using 2-look PLL, although I don't seem to struggle so much with OLL. Maybe it's something to do with the length of the alg, or finger-tricks. Most of my OLLs I know visually, while PLLs I rely more on muscle memory, which deserts me on 5x5. Sadly 2-look PLL requires EPLL, and ALL of my EPLL algs use M slices, which I just can't do on 5x5. I might learn RUD Z, H, and U algs, because tbh I struggle with these on 4x4 anyway, and I'm sure RUD would knock c.3 seconds off some of my 4x4 solves.

@pipkiksass
I haven't learned any big cube specific 3x3 algs. I'm sure it would help if I did. But I don't have patience or enough time to learn event specific algs unless of course my focus is on that event ie: bld events these days.
ikr!!!!
I get frustrated with 4x4. For some reason I haven't spent any time to figure out. It's the event I see the least improvement on. I find pieces easier to find on 5x5 then on 4x4. Weird I know.
For some reason, I've really hit the ground running with 4x4. I think it's because I found it so much of a challenge, after years of 3x3 where there's less thought required. Do you use Yau on 4x4? It's ridiculously easy to find edges in Yau, especially with 3-2-3.
Personally I'm averaging about 1:40 on 4x4 and about 2:45 on 5x5, so my 5x5 times are less than double 4x4. I wonder if maybe I just suck at Hoya (which I use on 4x4 but not on 5x5) but then again, my 4x4 times were worse before I started using Hoya. Realistically it's probably just that I practice 5x5 more.
I think, tbh, this is the case across the board. With an equal amount of time spent on each event, I'm sure @Logiqx ratios would be spot on. I wonder how much Feliks practices each event, would be really interesting to find out! Have you tried Yau? I believe it has a slightly lower movecount than Hoya, i.e. is slightly more efficient. I like it, and find it interesting when solving. But, as above, it's probably all down to how much you practice each event.

Pretty sure 3:00 on 5x5 is doable, did a single solve earlier, which was 3:48.54. PLL skip, but even without, would have been my first sub-4. Previous solve (last night) was 4:08.313. This is down from 10 minutes 2 days ago, so if progress is linear rather than exponential, I'll break the world record before the end of the year.
 
@pipkiksass

I tried to switch to yau twice. I really liked how the first 3 edges works. But I couldn't get the hang of it. I spent more time on centers then searching for edges on my current method. I was averaging 1:45-1:55 with yau. Granted I didn't spend that much time on yau. I got frustrated pretty quickly. I felt like it would take along time to become comfortable with yau so I gave up assuming it wouldn't lower my average by much.
 
A cube price comparison site (in an old web design style) I'm working on:
http://cubealot.com/Qiyi-Thunderclap

Thoughts? Do the world need this?

I'll try to add more cubes (arrgh there are so many cubes) and a couple of stores, a search box, and done... and maybe some price history graphs (but maybe not).
I think this is cool, it would be cool if the shipping rates could be out to the side also. Volume discounts and such would get trickier. I know cubicle has lots of 5% off codes and I always forget to use them. :)

You guys are very structured with your goals, I have never worked well like that. I've been practicing 4x4 more lately and it seems slow to improve. I think my mindset has been wrong though. When I started 3x3 I would put many hours in and be fine with the improvements however they came. With 4x4 I'm frustrated that I'm not already as fast as I "should" or could be. I've been working on changing that and just enjoying my practice time so I think it helps, it's more fun which will lead to more practice!

There's a small chance I'll go to nationals in 2017 if I can find a friend to stay with a few hours away or less. Or maybe I'll find someone to room with. Anyone from here going?
 
I've got cracking the cube as well. I've also got a QiYi 6x6 and QiYi Sq1. 6x6 needs breaking in but feels like it has potential. I haven't a clue what I'm doing on the Sq1. It'll take me a long time to figure out by myself... maybe by the end of 2017. ;)

Goals... hmm.

Get competent at the other small puzzles... Skewb (sub-12 global) & clock (sub-15 global) during Q1 / Q2. Start doing mega during Q3. Start doing Sq1 during Q4.

Maybe I'll decide to improve at Pyra (sub-8 global) and 2x2 (sub-5 global) as well.

Regular events... sub-16 global 3x3 & sub-27 global for OH. I need to solidify what I know and
Continue making the progress I was seeing earlier this year.

No specific goals for 5x5 upwards. I should practice them more often though!

I also need to finish documenting all of my algs.

It's going to be a busy year if I'm going to achieve that lot!


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