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[Lid]

@Shaky Hands I prefer Rw2 F2 U2 r2 U2 F2 Rw2, instead of the Uw2 Rw2 F2 u2 F2 Rw2 Uw2 alg.

6x6 ... still waiting for mine /stickerless/ to get shipped from thecubicle ... hoping to break the 4 min limit once it's here

(Only got the SS now.)

 

[Shaky Hands]

@Shaky Hands I prefer Rw2 F2 U2 r2 U2 F2 Rw2, instead of the Uw2 Rw2 F2 u2 F2 Rw2 Uw2 alg.

Oh I like that. Will experiment a bit. Thanks for the tip, seems promising.

 

[One Wheel]

@Shaky Hands I prefer Rw2 F2 U2 r2 U2 F2 Rw2, instead of the Uw2 Rw2 F2 u2 F2 Rw2 Uw2 alg.

I haven't bothered learning l2e algs, but for that particular case I use Uw' [flip] Uw Dw [flip] Dw'. Between flipping, slicing, and Rw2 B2 U2 Lw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 x U2 Rw U2 Lw' D2 Rw2 x' (parity) I can always solve it, just not necessarily optimally. I got my first sub-4:00 5x5 solve yesterday. How much time would I gain by learning l2e algs? At this point the alg set I'm working on is still OLL. It's been probably 9 months since I started doing OLL and PLL, and I have full PLL and maybe 15 OLLs counting the 2-look ones.

 

[JanW]

cubezz seems to be a lot quicker nowadays. My Cyclone Boys G4 arrived in just 9 days after I placed the order. It's tensioned very unevenly and came completely dry, but I think it will be a decent cube if I can set it up.

Also got a Qiyi skewb. I have no idea how to solve it though...

 

[Shaky Hands]

I haven't bothered learning l2e algs, but for that particular case I use Uw' [flip] Uw Dw [flip] Dw'. Between flipping, slicing, and Rw2 B2 U2 Lw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 x U2 Rw U2 Lw' D2 Rw2 x' (parity) I can always solve it, just not necessarily optimally. I got my first sub-4:00 5x5 solve yesterday. How much time would I gain by learning l2e algs? At this point the alg set I'm working on is still OLL. It's been probably 9 months since I started doing OLL and PLL, and I have full PLL and maybe 15 OLLs counting the 2-look ones.

I learned that case because it was easy to recognise and it was coming up for me a lot recently. Learning more OLL will benefit you more in the long-term, I'm pretty sure, as it can be applied to far more different puzzles.

 

[earth2dan]

I haven't bothered learning l2e algs, but for that particular case I use Uw' [flip] Uw Dw [flip] Dw'. Between flipping, slicing, and Rw2 B2 U2 Lw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 x U2 Rw U2 Lw' D2 Rw2 x' (parity) I can always solve it, just not necessarily optimally. I got my first sub-4:00 5x5 solve yesterday. How much time would I gain by learning l2e algs? At this point the alg set I'm working on is still OLL. It's been probably 9 months since I started doing OLL and PLL, and I have full PLL and maybe 15 OLLs counting the 2-look ones.

Same here. The only 5x5 edge alg I ever bothered to learn is the parity alg. Though, I use a completely different parity alg. I use Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Lw' U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 x' Rw' U2 Rw' U2 M'. I found that easy to learn and execute because it's pretty much all Rw U2 moves.

cubezz seems to be a lot quicker nowadays.

Yep. I've been pretty impressed with cubezz's shipping lately. I used to order from Lightake, but their shipping has become unbearably slow over the last year or so.

 

[One Wheel]

I use Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Lw' U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 x' Rw' U2 Rw' U2 M'.

I really like that alg. My RH U2s are faster than LH, so I'll probably mirror it, but I think I'll learn that one. It's pretty similar to the OLL parity alg I use for even cubes. Thanks!

 

[Jason Green]

cubezz seems to be a lot quicker nowadays. My Cyclone Boys G4 arrived in just 9 days after I placed the order. It's tensioned very unevenly and came completely dry, but I think it will be a decent cube if I can set it up.

Also got a Qiyi skewb. I have no idea how to solve it though...

I can solve skewb but I forgot the proper way to do one step. So I just solve a face and then repeat that one alg until it's done. This of course is like once every few weeks.

 

[Chree]

I haven't bothered learning l2e algs... How much time would I gain by learning l2e algs?

Not that much. Maybe a few seconds, depending on how fast you are with the regular parity alg. It's really not important to learn L2E until you wanna break the 2:00ish barrier. After that, I found L2E very helpful (even though I don't know the full set, just enough to get by). But it's worth noting that Aaron LoPrete is sub1:20 and does not use L2E.

Some L2E algs are SWEET though, and are way faster than even the normal Parity alg. My personal favorites are:
- Rw2 F2 U2 Rw2 U2 F2 Rw2
- Rw U2 Rw2 U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw2 U2 Rw
- Rw' U2 Rw2 U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Rw2 U2 Rw' (F/B mirror of above)
- E' [Flip alg] E (double parity, not actually parity, but easy to recognize)

 

[Lid]

Or you can use the "AvG" alg for parity, [Rw U2] repeat untill the centers are correct again, parity gone -> pair the rest of the edges. (I have a L2E page on my website also.)

 

[mark49152]

I use Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Lw' U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 x' Rw' U2 Rw' U2 M'.

Can be shortened to Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Lw' U2 3Rw U2 Rw' U2 x' Rw' U2 Rw'.

The only other L2E algorithm I use is Rw U2 Rw U2 x U2 Rw U2 3Rw' U2 Lw U2 Rw2.

Using AvG it's easy to avoid any other tricky case coming up. The first case above can usually be avoided too.

 

[One Wheel]

Some L2E algs are SWEET though, and are way faster than even the normal Parity alg. My personal favorites are:
- Rw2 F2 U2 Rw2 U2 F2 Rw2
- Rw U2 Rw2 U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw2 U2 Rw
- Rw' U2 Rw2 U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Rw2 U2 Rw' (F/B mirror of above)
- E' [Flip alg] E (double parity, not actually parity, but easy to recognize)

Those are nice. I do use the last one. It's about as close as I've come to independently developing an alg. That and a not-too-great E-perm with lots of w moves to eliminate cube rotations, but there I just copied the basic moves from an existing alg

 

[h2f]

I had a comp tomorrow with big cubes without any limits and cutoffs - sad the biggest is 5x5. I did a session yeterday and with Yau got pretty good times: 1:03 and 1:07 singles and 1:17 ao12.

 

[muchacho]

I thought of buying a gigaminx... but it scares me, I thought better and bought a kilominx (2x2 megaminx), it's so cute.

Good luck Grzegorz!

 

[h2f]

2nd competition weekend in a row. There could be a third but I missed a registration by few hours. http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=1629

 

[JohnnyReggae]

cubezz seems to be a lot quicker nowadays. My Cyclone Boys G4 arrived in just 9 days after I placed the order. It's tensioned very unevenly and came completely dry, but I think it will be a decent cube if I can set it up.

Cubezz is getting a lot quicker. In fact I get my orders from Cubezz quicker than I do from TheCubicle. My cube orders from Cubezz arrive before my sticker orders from TheCubicle.

 

[Selkie]

@Shaky Hands, Sorry Andy I will not be able to make Macclesfield as there is a clash with my home town VW festival but will keep my eyes open for the next one sir

 

[Selkie]

2nd competition weekend in a row. There could be a third but I missed a registration by few hours. http://cubecomps.com/live.php?cid=1629

Best of luck

 

[MarcelP]

My first Ao12 after last competition.. I would say I am comfortably sub 19.. why not in competition

Spoiler: Times

Generated By csTimer on 2016-7-1
avg of 12: 18.66

Time List:
1. 17.15 R2 U D' R2 F R' U2 F R2 D' F2 R2 B2 U L2 D L2 D' L2 F'
2. 18.27 D2 L2 B2 U2 B2 D' L2 U' B2 D' L F' D F D U R2 F' L' R F
3. 19.72 U' L2 U2 L2 F2 D' F2 R2 D' U' B2 L' B2 F L' U2 R B L' R' U2
4. 17.55 D2 R2 B2 U2 B2 F' L2 U2 B U2 R2 D' B' L R' F' U R' F' D'
5. (20.40) B2 R2 U L2 R2 U2 B2 U R2 D R D' L D2 R2 B L D F'
6. (16.07) B2 L2 D' R2 B2 F2 D R2 D' F2 D F' R U2 B' D2 B' F' D' F2 U
7. 19.16 B' R' D F2 U2 R U B2 D' B' R2 F2 R2 U2 R2 F U2 B2 U2 F'
8. 18.21 B' D F2 D2 B2 R2 B2 D' R2 D2 U' L2 F' R2 B U' B2 U2 L D' U'
9. 19.96 L' D' R2 U L2 D' R2 U R2 U2 L2 B2 F L' R' U B L' U2 F2 L
10. 18.20 L' F2 R2 B2 R2 U' L2 D2 U B2 U' F2 B D' R' D2 U' L2 B F L
11. 18.10 R2 U2 R2 B F' R2 D2 F' U2 B' L2 D R' F' U2 B' D' B R2 B2 L2
12. 20.27 U' R2 U' L2 R2 F2 U' R2 D2 R2 U' B' F2 D' F2 L' B2 D B L'

Cube: GuoGuan.. I think main since I get the best times with this cube (even if I do not like it).

 

[mark49152]

I had a comp tomorrow with big cubes without any limits and cutoffs - sad the biggest is 5x5. I did a session yeterday and with Yau got pretty good times: 1:03 and 1:07 singles and 1:17 ao12.

On 5x5? That's fast .