muchacho
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Nice, I see much potential there.
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Logiqx
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Hi Jason. I uploaded the Python scripts (one to download the DB and build indices, one to generate the rankings) to GitHub and the link is in the original post.
Click the ipynb files to view - https://github.com/Logiqx/wca-ipy
@Lid - I notice that you host some WCA reports on your cubing website. Would it be feasible to incorporate the over-40's script so that over-40 results are updated at the same time as your existing reports? I'm not sure if you've fully automated and have a server automatically updating your website?
h2f
Premium Member
Thank you. I have the same feeling and I hope it come true. Something clicked in my mind and fb seems much easier to me than a year before. I need practice with cmlls and must work on transition from fb to second block.
mafergut
Legend
Liked your Roux solving a lot. It seems relaxed but fluid. I agree with David that you have potential there. You are now quite decent with a 2nd method, which I think is a good skill to have. Makes me want to get back to Roux, where I never got to really decent times. But then I do the weekly comp 3x3 scrambles and I have one of the best strikes of good lookahead in some time and then I think that there's still potential for improvement in CFOP and I have my time already too spread among different events and I doubt again. The average was 16.58, (16.56), (17.75), 16.67, 16.64 = 16.64. Nothing spectacular there but they were all full step solves. Probably best Ao5 without skips in like 6 months.
One Wheel
Legend
This is a long thread, and I'm not going to try to read all of it, but I thought I'd say hi. I got my first cube a little over a year ago as a 28th birthday present. I realize that makes me younger than several of you on this thread, but I still feel like I'm old enough that my fingers are a little stiffer than they used to be, and learning algs maybe isn't as easy as it once would have been. I've really been enjoying 4x4 lately, and I've gotten a few averages under 2:10 with a pb single of 1:43.75. I run about 10-16 seconds on 2x2, 40 seconds on 3x3, 6 minutes on 5x5, and 9 minutes on Megaminx, very roughly. My long-term goal is to have averages that are average or above in the world rankings in all events, except possibly 2x2 which I don't care for much (too alg-heavy) and clock, which I have no interest in learning.
I bought the family dairy farm from my dad a couple of years ago, so right now I'm milking 38 Jersey cows twice a day, plus feeding calves, etc. The farm doesn't leave me a lot of free time, but it's nice to sit down after chores and do a couple of solves. I have 4 years of college working toward a BA in Government, but no degree. I can make a mean spreadsheet, but that's about the extent of my computer savvy. I have 9 younger siblings and two nephews, but nobody else at the farm with me right now.
I bought the family dairy farm from my dad a couple of years ago, so right now I'm milking 38 Jersey cows twice a day, plus feeding calves, etc. The farm doesn't leave me a lot of free time, but it's nice to sit down after chores and do a couple of solves. I have 4 years of college working toward a BA in Government, but no degree. I can make a mean spreadsheet, but that's about the extent of my computer savvy. I have 9 younger siblings and two nephews, but nobody else at the farm with me right now.
mafergut
Legend
@One Wheel: Welcome to this thread! Yeah, you are a bit young but we are glad you are here and share your cubing experience with all of us. Just one quick comment, if you don't want to learn a lot of algs for 2x2 you can get pretty decent times with Ortega which is just a dozen algs (half of which will be already known 3x3 OLLs). No need to go the extra mile and learn all 126 CLL + EG-1 + EG-2 
h2f
Premium Member
Funny thing is that with CFOP I was dual color but mostly white on bottom. With Roux I'm half CN - I can do all colors with wihte on bottom and blue/green on yellow. Trying to do it with red/orange. I had a long break - since august or september I havent practice it for longer than few days.
Your times with CFOP are amazing for me. Same like Chris or @Logiqx (sorry, forgot name), Marcel.
mark49152
Premium Member
@One Wheel , welcome to the thread.
mafergut
Legend
Thanks but that was just a good average. I'm globally more like mid 19 or so. Also it's nice that you can have that much freedom of colors with Roux. I'm now trying to become full CN at CFOP but still not there yet (this Ao5 was all white & yellow cross).
newtonbase
Premium Member
I haven't timed splits but I've decided to focus on each stage in turn so will be looking at first two centres initially.
mafergut
Legend
I just fully realized what you said in your post here... Right now I just do OLL parity on a flipped edge so that I get an OLL with at least two oriented edges, if I have 3 then I get a full cross, but that's it. When you say you prefer to solve EO with OLL parity do you mean you use another OLL parity alg to flip 3 adj edges instead of 1 so that you end up always with a full cross? If so, can you share the alg? You got me interested
Lid
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@Logiqx It's a half automated process, I run the scripts locally on my computer, then upload the results to the website.
@mafergut When I get a 3 flip on the 4x4 I do; B' R' [OLLparity] R B. After that I do COLL then EPLL.
I have pages for all PLL+parity & OLL+parity cases if you're intrested on my webpage (under the Misc tab).
@mafergut When I get a 3 flip on the 4x4 I do; B' R' [OLLparity] R B. After that I do COLL then EPLL.
I have pages for all PLL+parity & OLL+parity cases if you're intrested on my webpage (under the Misc tab).
mark49152
Premium Member
The alg I use is Rw U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 Rw U2 Lw U2 Rw U2 Rw' U2 x' Rw' U2 Rw'. It solves double parity, flipping the front dedge and swapping the left/right dedges.I just fully realized what you said in your post here... Right now I just do OLL parity on a flipped edge so that I get an OLL with at least two oriented edges, if I have 3 then I get a full cross, but that's it. When you say you prefer to solve EO with OLL parity do you mean you use another OLL parity alg to flip 3 adj edges instead of 1 so that you end up always with a full cross? If so, can you share the alg? You got me interested
When there is one good edge, position it on the right, and do B' R' to set up, then the same alg, and undo setup. The front dedge gets flipped as usual, and the left/right swap takes care of flipping the other two bad ones. That's why that setup doesn't work with some other parity algs, if they don't swap left/right.
muchacho
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Welcome @One Wheel
I've filmed some solves (some lucky ones, I'm averaging 26.x), they look so different that Grzegorz's :confused:
Shaky Hands
Premium Member
How's this for consistent improvement: every official average Mark and Andy have ever posted has been a PB - with only one exception, Mark's pyra at Manchester. Keep it going, guys
Great! Sadly as I go to more comps I have no chance of maintaining this record!
Cool
Am I right in thinking 1/2 in MBLD is now a DNF? How many cubes do you have to attempt to make 0 points a non-DNF MBLD?Yep. I'm just going to go elsewhere and avoid people at times so I can get my warm-up done. I'm sociable enough the rest of the time.
Thanks! And congrats to you both on your PB's too.
I'd say go for it. As Mark R has said, big cubes help with smaller cubes. In fact, my 4x4 times improved quite a bit by doing 5x5 solves.
Nice video. I think of Roux as some form of bizarre wizardry. Did a couple of Roux solves last week but for the moment it's something I just play around with. My Roux times are certainly better than the hour or so that it took me to solve my first Square-1 yesterday.
Welcome to the thread One Wheel. I've no idea with Megaminx but I think all your goals are realistic and often a bit of extra learning can lead to a considerable reduction in average times. I've seen you on the various forum competition threads, so keep up the practice and good luck with the farm!
One Wheel
Legend
@One Wheel:Just one quick comment, if you don't want to learn a lot of algs for 2x2 you can get pretty decent times with Ortega which is just a dozen algs (half of which will be already known 3x3 OLLs). No need to go the extra mile and learn all 126 CLL + EG-1 + EG-2
I'm using Ortega. What I meant by alg heavy is not that there are so many algs to learn, although I realize that I could. What I meant is that the only logical part of solving 2x2 is orienting the first layer, and then it's just recognition and execution, which get boring fast.
mark49152
Premium Member
You have to solve at least 2, and get 0 points when successes = failures, so minimum is 2/4.
mafergut
Legend
@Lid & @mark49152: Thanks for your suggestions on OLL parity. The alg I use in fact swaps the left & right dedges so I can use the setup you mention to do a 3-flip, thanks! No more doing OLL parity to discover I have to do 2L OLL because I can't perform the resulting OLL in big cubes due to muscle memory issues (it's becoming better but I'm still not full OLL in 4x4 and bigger cubes).
@muchacho: David, nice solves. You are right that your Roux style looks different to @h2f Grzegorz's but not sure why as I can't really discern the different steps in your solves (I'm not good a Roux, you know). Like I think you were already doing L6E and then you perform something that is not just MU like if it was the CMLL.
@One Wheel: Now I get you, so you find it boring because it relies too much on algs and not in intuitive solving and lookahead... well, yeah, 2x2 is a completely different thing to bigger cubes or Megaminx. In that sense it is similar to Pyraminx. The only way to be really fast is by onelooking the solve, which means zero lookahead involved. With Ortega, 1-looking is almost impossible for most of the solves so there's still the intuition coming into play to recognize as soon as possible the OLL, then the PBL and the AUF but, I agree, it is much more automatic than other puzzles. I found it boring like you at the beginning but then I started to try and improve little bits here and there in the things I mentioned (OLL prediction, etc.) and it has the good thing that I don't need 20 minutes to just do a solve, like with 7x7. In 20 minutes I can do a bunch of them I at times feel frustrated when I had half an hour and I "waste" it in just 5 bad 5x5 solves. So, one thing for the other, I ended up liking 2x2, but I still prefer 3x3, 4x4 or Mega, for example.
@muchacho: David, nice solves. You are right that your Roux style looks different to @h2f Grzegorz's but not sure why as I can't really discern the different steps in your solves (I'm not good a Roux, you know). Like I think you were already doing L6E and then you perform something that is not just MU like if it was the CMLL.
@One Wheel: Now I get you, so you find it boring because it relies too much on algs and not in intuitive solving and lookahead... well, yeah, 2x2 is a completely different thing to bigger cubes or Megaminx. In that sense it is similar to Pyraminx. The only way to be really fast is by onelooking the solve, which means zero lookahead involved. With Ortega, 1-looking is almost impossible for most of the solves so there's still the intuition coming into play to recognize as soon as possible the OLL, then the PBL and the AUF but, I agree, it is much more automatic than other puzzles. I found it boring like you at the beginning but then I started to try and improve little bits here and there in the things I mentioned (OLL prediction, etc.) and it has the good thing that I don't need 20 minutes to just do a solve, like with 7x7. In 20 minutes I can do a bunch of them
I at times feel frustrated when I had half an hour and I "waste" it in just 5 bad 5x5 solves. So, one thing for the other, I ended up liking 2x2, but I still prefer 3x3, 4x4 or Mega, for example.
muchacho
Veteran
In 2-look CMLL, after CO but before CP, I put the LU/RU edges in the bottom (so that they will be inserted later with an M2), probably not the best way, but I got used to do it like that, it'll remain that way until I learn full CMLL.
mafergut
Legend
That explains a lot to my untrained eye, thanks! Anyway, your times are quite good for 2L CMLL. Any plans on learning full CMLL?
