Older cubers discussions

[MarcelP]

I've just completed an OH Ao100 (second one ever) but they are super tiring for my hand.

My hands hurt thinking of an Ao100 LOL. I can do no more than 5 tops..

Just did a nice session with QiYi Thunderclap. Nice cube. Not going to be my main though

Spoiler: Ao5 17.61

1. 17.12 B D2 B2 L2 R B2 L' U2 L' U2 F2 D2 F' U' L D2 U2 R2 U2
2. 23.87 2+ F' U2 B' U2 B R2 F' R2 F' D2 F U L' D' R2 F' U2 F2 R D U'
3. 17.37 B2 D F2 R2 U' F2 L2 R2 F2 R' U' B' D' U' R' D' B2 F' L2
4. 16.60 D2 F R2 B' R2 F U2 B U2 B' D2 U F D2 L B' R2 F D' U F2
5. 18.34 F2 U' L2 D' R2 B2 D2 B2 R2 D' F2 R' D B F' R' F' L' R F R'

 

[Logiqx]

Just did a nice session with QiYi Thunderclap. Nice cube. Not going to be my main though

It seems like most of the new cubes are nice nowadays. You seem to enjoy trying them all as well.

Having dusted off my 2x2 recently, I decided to do a timed session this afternoon. Here are a few typical solves (6.x seconds) but ending with my first ever lol scramble.

It's a shame I didn't predict the OLL+PBL skip. I was being lazy and wasn't trying to predict OLL for most of my solves.

 

[MarcelP]

Hi Guys,

Busy week.. Cool 2X2 solves Mike. I average 10 seconds no matter how much I practice. I just do not enjoy it as much as 3x3. Today I had a full step 11 seconds solve.

L D2 R2 U2 L D2 R B2 L' D2 R' D F' L2 F2 L' B R' D2

x //inspection
R' D // Blue X-Cross (2)
U' R U2 R' U R U R' // 2nd (8)
y U2 R U' R' U R' U' R // 3rd (9)
U2 F' U' F // 4th (4)
R U R' U R U2 R' //OLL (Sune) (7)
R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R // PLL (Ua) (10)
11.67 = 3.4 tps

Jay!

 

[Logiqx]

Yeah. I've been pretty busy as well and hardly done any cubing. I didn't help myself by doing the LL sub-step hierarchy in my spare time the last couple of days.

https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/...ast-Layer-Sub-Steps-Subsets-of-OLLCP-and-ZBLL

Cool solve you had Marcel... 11.67 with 2 move x-cross, easy F2L and the perfect LL combo!

New topic...

I've never really had any interest in learning Pyra but I ordered a MoYu this week to qualify an Amazon order for free shipping.

It arrived today and I'm really impressed by how the MoYu feels. I've deliberately avoided tutorials but I fluked a solve within 10 minutes and had a usable method in around 30 minutes. I was pretty surprised but there was a bit of luck involved... I just solved a layer using intuition then tried things like Sune and sexy-sledge to see how they affect the LL edges. I'm currently using 4 algs to solve the LL.

I decided to time myself after an hour or so of practice and got an Ao12 of 28.57. I'll check out some tutorials later this week to see what other methods exist.

I think I might actually enjoy this puzzle.

 

[Logiqx]

Having had another play the Pyra is feeling a lot like 2x2 to me. Puzzle difficulty, move count and the frequency of lucky solves all seem comparable.

According to Drew Brads it should be possible to get to sub-10, even 5-7 seconds after a couple of hundred solves:

@1:30... Just need to do a couple of hundred solves to get to 5-7 seconds

It may take me a little longer than that but I'm starting to get used to solving it now.

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2015-6-19
solves/total: 50/50

single
best: 5.96
worst: 1:01.57

mean of 3
current: 23.36 (σ = 3.14)
best: 13.05 (σ = 6.88)

avg of 5
current: 21.63 (σ = 0.33)
best: 16.47 (σ = 3.10)

avg of 12
current: 20.61 (σ = 3.51)
best: 18.62 (σ = 6.25)

avg of 50
current: 21.87 (σ = 5.83)
best: 21.87 (σ = 5.83)

Average: 21.87 (σ = 5.83)
Mean: 23.00

Time List:
1. 37.14 U L R' B' L B' U B' l r' b u'
2. 9.93 U L R' B' R B L' U' l' b u'
3. 23.41 U' R U' R U' L B' R l' r b' u
4. 15.11 U B' U' B' R' B' U' B' l' b' u'
5. 1:01.43 U B L' B U' B' L' R' l' r b u'
6. 28.42 R' U L' R U' L R L' l' r b' u'
7. 30.18 U R' L' B U L R' B U r' b'
8. 23.18 U' B' R U' L' B' U' L l' r' b' u'
9. 21.27 B' R U B' R' L' B R' l r' b'
10. 15.28 R B' L U' L' U L B' l r' b
11. 1:01.57 L B' U' R' U R' L' U' R' l r' b u
12. 20.65 B R' L' B' R L R' B l u'
13. 21.45 U' L' R' U' B L' R' L' l' r b' u'
14. 23.39 U' R' B' L' B L R' U' l' b' u'
15. 14.61 U' B' U B U B' U' B b u
16. 22.13 R' B R L U' L R' B l' r u
17. 26.11 L' R' B U L B' L' U' r' b u'
18. 17.99 R B U' R' B' R' U' B r u'
19. 26.46 R' L U' R' B R L' U' l' r b u
20. 19.77 L' B R' U L' U' L' R' l b' u
21. 24.67 U B L' U B L R' B l b' u
22. 18.99 B' L' R B L U B U' l b'
23. 39.95 R U B R' B' U L R l r u
24. 16.15 R U L R L B' L R' r' u'
25. 9.10 U' B U' R' B R L R B r' b' u'
26. 16.66 R L' U R' B' L U' L r' u'
27. 18.87 R B L' R B' L B' L l b u
28. 32.34 U R' B L R' L' U B U l' b' u
29. 16.45 L R U R' U L' U R' l r b'
30. 16.43 U L R' L' R L R L r b u'
31. 22.21 U' B L R L B U L r b u'
32. 17.71 U R L' U R' B' U B' l' b u'
33. 35.20 R' B' L' R' U L' U B' l' r b' u'
34. 22.98 U L R B' L' U L R' B' l' b u
35. 5.96 U' R U' L' U R' U' L' r' u'
36. 13.50 L' U' R B' L R B' U' r' b
37. 19.69 L U' L' U B' R U' B R' b'
38. 35.55 L' U B L U L' R U l' r u'
39. 16.23 B' U L' U R B R' U' r b u'
40. 16.64 R' B' U L R L' R U l' r' b
41. 24.00 U' B U R' B L' B R l r u'
42. 15.22 L R' L B R L U' B l
43. 19.66 U' R' U' R B' U' R B U' r b'
44. 25.47 U B' R' B L U' R' B' R l b' u
45. 23.78 U B U B' U' B R' U B r' b' u
46. 15.45 L' B U' R' B U' B L' l r u'
47. 21.78 U B L B R' U R' L l b u'
48. 26.98 B U' B L B' U L R r b' u
49. 21.86 U R L R B' R U L' B' l b' u'
50. 21.25 U L R' U R L R L' B r' b'

 

[MarcelP]

Wow.. nice times. I use also a beginner method layer by layer. My official best is 8 seconds. But I average around 25 - 30 I think. I never practice pyre untill one day before a competition LOL

Spoiler: Nice solve on red from today

12.27 R U' F2 D' R2 U F2 U2 B2 R2 U' B' D2 R' F2 D U2 B' R
y x' y // inspection
F U' R' F R //CROSS (5)
R U' R' U2 L' U' L //1ST (7)
U2 R U' R' //2ND (4)
y U R U2 R' U2 R U2 R' U R U' R' //3RD (13)
U' R' U R U y R U R' U R U' R' //4TH (13)
U R U B' U' R' U R B R' U // OLL (11)
53 moves in 12.27 = 4.3 TPS

Cube: MeiYing

 

[cubizh]

According to Drew Brads it should be possible to get to sub-10, even 5-7 seconds after a couple of hundred solves:

... Just need to do a couple of hundred solves to get to 5-7 seconds

It may take me a little longer than that but I'm starting to get used to solving it now.

Since this is something that appear very frequently in help videos and is something that is very irritating/frustrating for most of the rest of the world, I just want to share how you should understand those kinds of phrases.

When people say

It should only take you X number of solves to achieve sub-Y

you should read

It only took me X number of solves to achieve sub-Y

 

[Logiqx]

I use also a beginner method layer by layer.

I usually start with a corner + edge pair then extend to a V with block building. I think it is quite an efficient way to solve the first layer... when I get it right.

Nice 3x3 solve btw.

Since this is something that appear very frequently in help videos and is something that is very irritating/frustrating for most of the rest of the world, I just want to share how you should understand those kinds of phrases.

I didn't take it literally, I just thought it was kind of amusing. It may be true for someone who is sub-10 on the 3x3 but for anyone with slower recognition and TPS it isn't going to happen so soon.

 

[mark49152]

I bought a Pyraminx in the very first box of puzzles I had shipped from China, when I started out cubing. I don't think I ever solved it, even once, and haven't picked it up since! It remains languishing unloved at the bottom of one of my cube crates (along with the Square-1).

 

[MarcelP]

I bought a Pyraminx in the very first box of puzzles I had shipped from China, when I started out cubing. I don't think I ever solved it, even once, and haven't picked it up since! It remains languishing unloved at the bottom of one of my cube crates (along with the Square-1).

LOL.. I have one Square-1 too. And I have scrambled it and never managed to solve it again. One of the things on my bucket list. I have a few Pyraminxes. The last one a Moyu. And I really like that one. I just never practiced enough. But this post of Mike got me thinking again about Pyra and 2X2. So last night I have watched a few Pyra video's and I think I am going to learn an intermediate method. I never seemed to 'get' Keyhole method. That seems a fun thing to learn. Even if it is not faster than my LBL method.

 

[Logiqx]

I bought a Pyraminx in the very first box of puzzles I had shipped from China, when I started out cubing. I don't think I ever solved it, even once, and haven't picked it up since! It remains languishing unloved at the bottom of one of my cube crates (along with the Square-1).

You might find it fun if you give it a go Mark. Figuring it out yourself is also quite nice.

I don't own a Square-1 but I have got a Skewb which has sat in my draw since I got it at Christmas.

I'll continue with the Pyra for a while then once I'm happy with my times, I might turn my attention to the Skewb.

 

[Logiqx]

I have a few Pyraminxes. The last one a Moyu. And I really like that one. I just never practiced enough. But this post of Mike got me thinking again about Pyra and 2X2. So last night I have watched a few Pyra video's and I think I am going to learn an intermediate method. I never seemed to 'get' Keyhole method. That seems a fun thing to learn. Even if it is not faster than my LBL method.

Have you watched the "How to Get Faster" video by Drew? On the basis of that, I decided not to learn keyhole for now and just get faster with LBL.

Marcel... here are my algs should you be interested.
Mark... ignore them if you ever plan to have a go at solving it yourself.

I figured these out for myself on Friday. I think they are pretty decent for speed solving based on this thread, although I know some cases can be solved in 2 less moves:

https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/...x-discussion&p=1086489&viewfull=1#post1086489

Spoiler

I sometimes find that having chosen a D colour and starting my block building, I accidentally solve a V on the front so I rotate and carry on with it on D.

I think it should also be possible to influence the last layer whilst inserting the final edge of the first layer. I don't need anything fancy like that for a little while mind you.

Flip DF in place: (R' L' R L') (R U' R')

Flip FL + FR in place: (R' L R L') (U L' U' L)
Flip FL + FR and cycle edges counter-clockwise: (R' L R L') (U' L' U L) - i.e. sledge-hammer bad sticker first
Flip FL + FR and cycle edges clockwise: (L R' L' R) (U R U' R') - i.e. sledge-hammer bad sticker first

Cycle edges counter-clockwise: (R U R') U (R U R') - i.e use U
Cycle edges clockwise: (R U' R') U' (R U' R') - i.e. use U'


LL Probabilities... I think!

2-flip - 1/4
CCW cycle with 2-flip - 1/4
CW cycle with 2-flip - 1/4

CCW cycle - 1/12
CW cycle - 1/12
Solved - 1/12

 

[mark49152]

You might find it fun if you give it a go Mark. Figuring it out yourself is also quite nice.

I did have one when I was a kid in the 80s and figured it out then. It was my favourite puzzle, although I remember thinking the tips were pointless. My problem is that I don't have enough time so tend to always spend it on the puzzles I like best. Pyra and Square1 share that crate with a bunch of old friends like helicopters, Mega, rex, gears, etc.

The only puzzles other than NxN that I've spent serious time on are cuboids and shapemods. I have a range of different cuboids, some of which I am still trying to figure out on my own, like the 3x4x5. I like that there's a lot of commonality between them, so for each new puzzle you already know 80% of what you need and can get into it quickly. My favourite shapemod is the 4x4 Fisher, which can be solved by the usual 4x4 stuff plus supercube centres but takes more thought and care. Lots of fun.

 

[Logiqx]

I did have one when I was a kid in the 80s and figured it out then. It was my favourite puzzle, although I remember thinking the tips were pointless. My problem is that I don't have enough time so tend to always spend it on the puzzles I like best. Pyra and Square1 share that crate with a bunch of old friends like helicopters, Mega, rex, gears, etc.

The only puzzles other than NxN that I've spent serious time on are cuboids and shapemods. I have a range of different cuboids, some of which I am still trying to figure out on my own, like the 3x4x5. I like that there's a lot of commonality between them, so for each new puzzle you already know 80% of what you need and can get into it quickly. My favourite shapemod is the 4x4 Fisher, which can be solved by the usual 4x4 stuff plus supercube centres but takes more thought and care. Lots of fun.

Yes. The only purpose of the tips is aesthetics. I've never tried a super cube but I do remember them being quite prevalent in the 80's... novelty factor.

At some time I must look at the clock again as I have one from 80's in my cupboard. I don't remember how I solved it back then... I kind of wish I'd written it down. Maybe I thought I wouldn't forget it but 16 years later.... I've long forgotten how I solved it. I don't like the feel of the clock compared to twisty puzzles... it is pretty noisy as well.

Pyra update... unlimited inspection time. About 3 seconds faster than yesterday but the exponential curve is starting to show itself!

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2015-6-20
solves/total: 50/50

single
best: 10.59
worst: 30.15

mean of 3
current: 22.67 (σ = 6.51)
best: 13.36 (σ = 2.97)

avg of 5
current: 18.85 (σ = 0.72)
best: 14.18 (σ = 2.01)

avg of 12
current: 16.72 (σ = 3.54)
best: 15.58 (σ = 3.06)

avg of 50
current: 18.20 (σ = 3.07)
best: 18.20 (σ = 3.07)

Average: 18.20 (σ = 3.07)
Mean: 18.37

Time List:
1. 21.69 R B U L' R B U' B' l r b'
2. 24.30 B' U' L R B U B L' r' b' u'
3. 21.37 U B U L U B' R' U l' r u'
4. 25.95 L B' U' R' B R' U' B l' r' b' u'
5. 16.77 R' B' L' R' U' L R' U' l r' b u
6. 19.26 U L U L U' L' R U l r' b' u
7. 27.56 U' B U R' U B' L B r' u
8. 15.30 L' R B L U' R' L R B l r' b' u
9. 19.22 L' U' L' U B' L U B' l' b u
10. 17.64 R U' R B U B L' B l r' b' u'
11. 26.99 U' B' L U' B' R' U L l' r' b u
12. 16.38 L R L' B' R U R' U' r' b' u'
13. 19.08 U R U' R' U' R B' L' B l b' u'
14. 14.00 L' R' B U R L R U r b' u
15. 21.29 R B' L' R' U' L U' R l' r b' u'
16. 18.12 L' R B' L B R U L l r b' u
17. 19.68 U B U' R B' U R' B R l' r b' u'
18. 19.40 R L' U L B L U L' l b' u
19. 14.86 B L' B R U' B R U l' r' b
20. 18.61 R' B' L' R' L' U' R B' l r
21. 20.04 U' B' L U' R' L B L' l' r' b' u
22. 14.07 U B' U L' B' U' L' B' U' l' u
23. 16.98 L' U B' R' B U L' R' r'
24. 16.21 U' B' U R' B' U' B L r' b' u
25. 17.32 U R' U' R' B' U B L r' b
26. 12.18 L B R B' U' R U B l' r' u
27. 19.90 L' U B R' U R' U' B l' r b
28. 18.45 R' U' B L' R' U B R' l r b' u'
29. 11.70 U L R B' R' L R' L l r' b'
30. 22.95 U B' L' R L U L R' B' b'
31. 15.85 U R' B' L U L R' B l' r' u
32. 20.54 B R B' R L B' R' L l' b' u
33. 16.76 R' L U' R U R' B' L U l r b
34. 20.50 U R' B U' L R U B R' l b u'
35. 19.83 U B L' R L U' R L' l' r b' u
36. 20.51 U R' L' B' R B' R U' l b u'
37. 12.99 U L' B' R U' B' L B' l' r b' u'
38. 16.49 U L' R' B L' B' R' B' l' r' b' u
39. 10.59 U L B' R' U' L U B' r' b u
40. 17.38 U L U R' L' B' R L' l' r b
41. 13.05 U R' B' L R' L R' B L' l' r'
42. 18.32 L' R U' L U' B' L B l' r b' u'
43. 21.27 U' L U R' B' R U B' L l' r b u'
44. 11.43 U B' R L B' L' U B' r' u'
45. 11.15 U B R' L B' L B' U' l
46. 18.05 U B R' L B U' B' L r b u
47. 18.69 U L U' R L B R L R l' r b' u
48. 18.23 U B L' R U B' U R' U l' r u
49. 19.65 U B' R' U R L B' U l' r' b u
50. 30.15 L R' L' B' L B' U' L' l r b' u'

Edit: That session was so this morning, lol.

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2015-6-20
solves/total: 107/107

single
best: 5.39
worst: 36.16

mean of 3
current: 17.09 (σ = 3.85)
best: 10.06 (σ = 4.07)

avg of 5
current: 17.81 (σ = 1.66)
best: 12.38 (σ = 0.48)

avg of 12
current: 16.49 (σ = 2.60)
best: 14.31 (σ = 1.81)

avg of 50
current: 16.10 (σ = 3.10)
best: 16.09 (σ = 3.24)

avg of 100
current: 16.58 (σ = 3.29)
best: 16.58 (σ = 3.29)

Average: 16.76 (σ = 3.20)
Mean: 16.99

Time List:
1. 17.39 B' U B R U' L' R U' L' l' r' u
2. 23.18 L R' L' R B L' U R l r' b u'
3. 15.84 L' B L B' L' B U' B l r
4. 24.79 U' L R B' R U R B' b' u
5. 18.36 R' L R' B' R U R B r u'
6. 17.99 U L U L R U' L R U l r b' u'
7. 17.07 B' U' L B R' L R U l r' b
8. 31.34 U L R B' L' U' B' U R' l' b' u'
9. 12.99 B U B L U' B L' U l' r b
10. 18.52 L' B L' U R' B L B' l b' u
11. 23.11 U R L' R L' U' L R' l' b u'
12. 15.32 U L U B U' R L' U l' r b' u'
13. 20.72 L U' B' R L B R' B l' b' u
14. 14.22 U' B L U B' L' R U' l r' b'
15. 14.07 U L' R' U' L' R' L' U R' b'
16. 18.24 U' L' R L U B' U L b
17. 19.40 L' B' U L' U' R' L' U' r' u
18. 17.05 U R' L' U' B L' R' B' L l' r u'
19. 15.52 U L U B' R' L U B' l' r b
20. 21.32 U B' R' L' R U B' L r' b u'
21. 20.49 U' R B' U' L' B U R b'
22. 16.93 B U R' L B L' U' L' l r b
23. 12.34 B' U' B L R' L R U l'
24. 36.16 U' R B' L U' B' L B' L' l' r' b
25. 14.43 L R' B L' B L' R B r' b
26. 14.51 U L R' U B R U' B' l r u'
27. 11.38 R L R' B L' R L B r u'
28. 22.05 R U R' U B U L R l
29. 15.95 R U R U B L' R' B' r' b'
30. 17.16 U L' U' L' U L' B' U' l b u'
31. 34.17 L' R' U' R L R B' U r
32. 9.97 R' U' L U' R' U' L' U r b'
33. 15.27 R U L B' L' R' L' R' r' b' u
34. 17.21 R U R' B U R' B U' l' r' u'
35. 15.95 B' L' B U L' B R' L' r u'
36. 17.44 B L' R U L' U' B' L l r b' u'
37. 15.52 U B' R' B' U L B' L l r b' u
38. 23.43 U L U L R U L B' U' L l b' u
39. 7.35 L R L' B U B' R B' b'
40. 12.16 U' L' U L' B U L' B' R l' b
41. 18.54 U L' R' U' R' L' R B l' r' u'
42. 12.27 U B L' B' L R' L R l u
43. 14.01 R' L' U' R L' U R' U' l' u'
44. 16.25 B' L' R U' L U' R U' l' u
45. 14.94 L R B' L B' L R B' u'
46. 23.42 R' L U R' U' B U B r b u'
47. 12.02 L R' B' R' L' R B L' l' b' u'
48. 13.64 U' L' U' B L' B U' L' B l b' u
49. 15.64 U' L B U' B' U' L B l'
50. 21.51 L R L U L' B R L' l' r b
51. 14.70 R L U' B' R L B' L l' b u
52. 17.04 U' L' R' L' B R U B l' b' u
53. 15.09 U L U B' L R' U L' l r' b' u'
54. 22.34 U R B U B' L U L b u
55. 15.31 U L B L' U L' B L U l' r b u
56. 18.13 U L U B' U L U' R U'
57. 23.34 B U R B L' R' B L b'
58. 21.05 L U' R U' B R U' B r' b u'
59. 18.70 B L' U' R B R U B' l u
60. 14.44 U' L B R' U' L B' R l r' b u'
61. 14.41 U L B' L' R U R' L l r b' u
62. 16.91 U' L' B' L U' B R U' l r b' u'
63. 19.69 L' U B' R L B' U R l b' u'
64. 17.55 U R' U L R' U' R L B l r' b' u
65. 16.41 R L U' R U' R B U' b u'
66. 9.38 L U L B U B L R l u
67. 21.20 U' L U' B L' U L' B l r u'
68. 17.68 L' U' L R' U B R' L l b' u'
69. 22.83 U' B' U' L B U B' R' l b
70. 16.34 U R U B' L' U' B U B r u
71. 15.79 U' R' L' R L' B R' L' l' b u
72. 17.21 U L R' B' U' R' U R L l b'
73. 13.43 U R U R U L' R U L' l' r b' u
74. 12.36 L' B' R L' B' L' U' R l' b u
75. 15.13 U' R' L' R' L B U' L' l r' u'
76. 5.39 R' B' U L B' U' R L' l u'
77. 12.87 U B L' U' B' R' L B' b' u'
78. 11.91 R' L' U L' U' R' L' R' l r b' u
79. 13.03 B' R B R B' L B' R B' l r' u
80. 16.02 U L' B L R' B' L' R l r b
81. 21.81 U B' R L B' R' U' B L' r' b' u
82. 15.36 L B U R L U' L U R' l r u
83. 20.24 U R B' U' B' R L' U' B l r' b' u
84. 15.89 U B L R B U L' R' r' b
85. 15.71 L R' U' B' L R' B U' l' r b' u
86. 8.20 R B L U L' B' U R l' r'
87. 28.02 R' L B' R L' B R' L l u
88. 10.87 U L' B' R U' R' L B' l' r
89. 19.70 B' U' B L' B U L U' r b' u'
90. 18.06 U' L R' U R L U B' r b'
91. 22.78 U' R' U' B' R U B' R' l' b u'
92. 12.43 U L R L B R' U' L' B r' b u
93. 12.40 R L' U' L B' U R' B'
94. 16.50 U R L' U B' L B L' b' u
95. 7.47 L' R U R L R U' B l' b
96. 21.09 R L' R L' U' R B' R l' r u
97. 15.43 U' R B' L' U' L R L' l b' u'
98. 15.84 U' B L' R' L' B' U' L l r' u'
99. 20.04 U L R B L' U B U' l b' u'
100. 13.50 L R L B' L R' B' U' l u'
101. 12.11 U L R L U B' U L' r' b' u
102. 14.57 U L U' L' R' B U R l
103. 18.25 U L' U' L U' L' R' B' R' l' r b'
104. 15.97 U L' U B' L' U' B' U' l' r
105. 19.42 U' R L' U' L B R' L R' l'
106. 19.20 L U' B U' L' R' B U l b'
107. 12.65 U R' U R B' L' R L l r b' u

 

[Logiqx]

Bugger... I meant to do various tasks this afternoon but I couldn't put down the Pyraminx.

Never mind. Progress has been good, I think...

 

[MarcelP]

Have you watched the "How to Get Faster" video by Drew? On the basis of that, I decided not to learn keyhole for now and just get faster with LBL.

Marcel... here are my algs should you be interested.

Thanks, they are the same as I use.

Pyra and Square1 share that crate with a bunch of old friends like helicopters, Mega, rex, gears, etc.

I solve Megaminx occaisionally. Just to relax. It takes half an hour or so because I do not know how to do LL (alg wise) so I do it with lot's of trail and error.

Pyra update... unlimited inspection time. About 3 seconds faster than yesterday but the exponential curve is starting to show itself!

Spoiler

Generated By csTimer on 2015-6-20
solves/total: 107/107

single
best: 5.39
worst: 36.16

mean of 3
current: 17.09 (σ = 3.85)
best: 10.06 (σ = 4.07)

avg of 5
current: 17.81 (σ = 1.66)
best: 12.38 (σ = 0.48)

avg of 12
current: 16.49 (σ = 2.60)
best: 14.31 (σ = 1.81)

avg of 50
current: 16.10 (σ = 3.10)
best: 16.09 (σ = 3.24)

avg of 100
current: 16.58 (σ = 3.29)
best: 16.58 (σ = 3.29)

Average: 16.76 (σ = 3.20)
Mean: 16.99

Time List:
1. 17.39 B' U B R U' L' R U' L' l' r' u
2. 23.18 L R' L' R B L' U R l r' b u'
3. 15.84 L' B L B' L' B U' B l r
4. 24.79 U' L R B' R U R B' b' u
5. 18.36 R' L R' B' R U R B r u'
6. 17.99 U L U L R U' L R U l r b' u'
7. 17.07 B' U' L B R' L R U l r' b
8. 31.34 U L R B' L' U' B' U R' l' b' u'
9. 12.99 B U B L U' B L' U l' r b
10. 18.52 L' B L' U R' B L B' l b' u
11. 23.11 U R L' R L' U' L R' l' b u'
12. 15.32 U L U B U' R L' U l' r b' u'
13. 20.72 L U' B' R L B R' B l' b' u
14. 14.22 U' B L U B' L' R U' l r' b'
15. 14.07 U L' R' U' L' R' L' U R' b'
16. 18.24 U' L' R L U B' U L b
17. 19.40 L' B' U L' U' R' L' U' r' u
18. 17.05 U R' L' U' B L' R' B' L l' r u'
19. 15.52 U L U B' R' L U B' l' r b
20. 21.32 U B' R' L' R U B' L r' b u'
21. 20.49 U' R B' U' L' B U R b'
22. 16.93 B U R' L B L' U' L' l r b
23. 12.34 B' U' B L R' L R U l'
24. 36.16 U' R B' L U' B' L B' L' l' r' b
25. 14.43 L R' B L' B L' R B r' b
26. 14.51 U L R' U B R U' B' l r u'
27. 11.38 R L R' B L' R L B r u'
28. 22.05 R U R' U B U L R l
29. 15.95 R U R U B L' R' B' r' b'
30. 17.16 U L' U' L' U L' B' U' l b u'
31. 34.17 L' R' U' R L R B' U r
32. 9.97 R' U' L U' R' U' L' U r b'
33. 15.27 R U L B' L' R' L' R' r' b' u
34. 17.21 R U R' B U R' B U' l' r' u'
35. 15.95 B' L' B U L' B R' L' r u'
36. 17.44 B L' R U L' U' B' L l r b' u'
37. 15.52 U B' R' B' U L B' L l r b' u
38. 23.43 U L U L R U L B' U' L l b' u
39. 7.35 L R L' B U B' R B' b'
40. 12.16 U' L' U L' B U L' B' R l' b
41. 18.54 U L' R' U' R' L' R B l' r' u'
42. 12.27 U B L' B' L R' L R l u
43. 14.01 R' L' U' R L' U R' U' l' u'
44. 16.25 B' L' R U' L U' R U' l' u
45. 14.94 L R B' L B' L R B' u'
46. 23.42 R' L U R' U' B U B r b u'
47. 12.02 L R' B' R' L' R B L' l' b' u'
48. 13.64 U' L' U' B L' B U' L' B l b' u
49. 15.64 U' L B U' B' U' L B l'
50. 21.51 L R L U L' B R L' l' r b
51. 14.70 R L U' B' R L B' L l' b u
52. 17.04 U' L' R' L' B R U B l' b' u
53. 15.09 U L U B' L R' U L' l r' b' u'
54. 22.34 U R B U B' L U L b u
55. 15.31 U L B L' U L' B L U l' r b u
56. 18.13 U L U B' U L U' R U'
57. 23.34 B U R B L' R' B L b'
58. 21.05 L U' R U' B R U' B r' b u'
59. 18.70 B L' U' R B R U B' l u
60. 14.44 U' L B R' U' L B' R l r' b u'
61. 14.41 U L B' L' R U R' L l r b' u
62. 16.91 U' L' B' L U' B R U' l r b' u'
63. 19.69 L' U B' R L B' U R l b' u'
64. 17.55 U R' U L R' U' R L B l r' b' u
65. 16.41 R L U' R U' R B U' b u'
66. 9.38 L U L B U B L R l u
67. 21.20 U' L U' B L' U L' B l r u'
68. 17.68 L' U' L R' U B R' L l b' u'
69. 22.83 U' B' U' L B U B' R' l b
70. 16.34 U R U B' L' U' B U B r u
71. 15.79 U' R' L' R L' B R' L' l' b u
72. 17.21 U L R' B' U' R' U R L l b'
73. 13.43 U R U R U L' R U L' l' r b' u
74. 12.36 L' B' R L' B' L' U' R l' b u
75. 15.13 U' R' L' R' L B U' L' l r' u'
76. 5.39 R' B' U L B' U' R L' l u'
77. 12.87 U B L' U' B' R' L B' b' u'
78. 11.91 R' L' U L' U' R' L' R' l r b' u
79. 13.03 B' R B R B' L B' R B' l r' u
80. 16.02 U L' B L R' B' L' R l r b
81. 21.81 U B' R L B' R' U' B L' r' b' u
82. 15.36 L B U R L U' L U R' l r u
83. 20.24 U R B' U' B' R L' U' B l r' b' u
84. 15.89 U B L R B U L' R' r' b
85. 15.71 L R' U' B' L R' B U' l' r b' u
86. 8.20 R B L U L' B' U R l' r'
87. 28.02 R' L B' R L' B R' L l u
88. 10.87 U L' B' R U' R' L B' l' r
89. 19.70 B' U' B L' B U L U' r b' u'
90. 18.06 U' L R' U R L U B' r b'
91. 22.78 U' R' U' B' R U B' R' l' b u'
92. 12.43 U L R L B R' U' L' B r' b u
93. 12.40 R L' U' L B' U R' B'
94. 16.50 U R L' U B' L B L' b' u
95. 7.47 L' R U R L R U' B l' b
96. 21.09 R L' R L' U' R B' R l' r u
97. 15.43 U' R B' L' U' L R L' l b' u'
98. 15.84 U' B L' R' L' B' U' L l r' u'
99. 20.04 U L R B L' U B U' l b' u'
100. 13.50 L R L B' L R' B' U' l u'
101. 12.11 U L R L U B' U L' r' b' u
102. 14.57 U L U' L' R' B U R l
103. 18.25 U L' U' L U' L' R' B' R' l' r b'
104. 15.97 U L' U B' L' U' B' U' l' r
105. 19.42 U' R L' U' L B R' L R' l'
106. 19.20 L U' B U' L' R' B U l b'
107. 12.65 U R' U R B' L' R L l r b' u

Wow, you have made quick progress. I have not yet acchieved these results Good job. I can see you become better than average with this event. Do you know that Sneakelyfox also is very good at Pyra. She made podium on her first (and only) competition.

 

[Logiqx]

I solve Megaminx occasionally. Just to relax. It takes half an hour or so because I do not know how to do LL (alg wise) so I do it with lot's of trail and error.

Wow, you have made quick progress. I have not yet achieved these results Good job. I can see you become better than average with this event. Do you know that Sneaklyfox also is very good at Pyra. She made podium on her first (and only) competition.

I haven't solved the megaminx in ages and it was another puzzle where I just tried to apply existing knowledge. I probably only did about a dozen solves and what I came up with was the "Bálint method". For the LL, I basically used the Dan Brown approach... EO (FRU), EP (Sune), CP (Niklas), CO (Sexy). If I was to pick it up again it would take me a few minutes to figure out how Sune and Niklas affect the Megaminx LL but it's a nice simple way to finish a solve.

I think Pyra might become one of my favoured events... alongside 3x3, 2x2 and OH. I haven't touched a 4x4 or 5x5 in months but I might return to them later in the year.

Edit 1: Sneakly has been quiet recently. Her profile says she hasn't been on for the last 4 weeks.

Edit 2: I've taken inactive events out of my signature - 4x4 and 5x5. It's been over 3 months since my last sessions with those puzzles.

 

[mark49152]

Just did a 2x2 session. I didn't realize it had been so long, but this was my first in 16 months.

Anyway, after a few practise solves to refresh my memory, ao100=7.78. My bao50 and bao12 were both PBs, I guess because my hands are just much faster from 3x3 practice. And amazingly, I got a 2.00 single! It was LL skip but all the same, it felt cool getting it

 

[Logiqx]

Just did a 2x2 session. I didn't realize it had been so long, but this was my first in 16 months.

Anyway, after a few practise solves to refresh my memory, ao100=7.78. My bao50 and bao12 were both PBs, I guess because my hands are just much faster from 3x3 practice. And amazingly, I got a 2.00 single! It was LL skip but all the same, it felt cool getting it

Cool. You've beaten my lucky single.

I found that I was slightly faster after months off as well, although for me it was just 5 months. Like you say... probably due to faster hands from the 3x3. I also recall Chris Olson saying that he doesn't practice 2x2 nowadays and his times basically stay the same. I haven't picked it up again since that return session but I will try to make an effort to do it more regularly.

My first priority is to get back on to the 3x3 next week before my times start to suffer.

 

[MarcelP]

Just did a 2x2 session.

Not bad You are faster than me.

My first priority is to get back on to the 3x3 next week before my times start to suffer.

I think that any cubing that keeps your motor running will help in many events. Like when I did Roux in the first months of this year my times did not get worse. I am a bit bored with normal 3x3 lately and therefor do other things like Roux and ZZ every now and then.