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[mark49152]

Edit: Ao50 25-move scramble = 7.14
3.5 TPS

Here's some dubious analysis based on sample size of 2

I don't know your ao50+ so based on PB ao12= 13.95 let me guess at 15, and 60 moves for a full solve. Your solve tps would be ~4 whereas mine is ~2.4.

Both our cross+1 (based on 4.18 average for the 150 you posted recently) accounts for 28% of solve time, at ~78% of solve tps. However, your scrambles are much faster - 88% of your solve tps compared to my 64% of solve tps.

Obviously I'm proportionately slower at scrambling, perhaps because I don't practise as much using computer scrambles. More interestingly, it suggests that (at least for us) scramble tps isn't a good indicator of cross speed. My cross-F2L transition sucks, so if anything, I would guess that my cross tps is proportionately faster than yours to make up for that pause. It would be interesting to do ao50 cross rather than cross+1 to eliminate the transition (my PB is 3.3 but probably more like 3.7 on a normal day).

 

[MarcelP]

marcel, ik ben in: vlaamse en nederlandse speedcubinggemeensc)hap.

Hi! Nice to see you overhere too.

@Mark/Melody

I did the 25 move scramble Ao50.. Man, my elbows cramped up.. I got to 10.69 average. (2.33 TPS)

 

[sneaklyfox]

It would be interesting to do ao50 cross rather than cross+1 to eliminate the transition (my PB is 3.3 but probably more like 3.7 on a normal day).

Well, my cross Ao50 from when all this started was 1.73. Assuming an average 6-move cross means I have almost 3.5 TPS during cross, which is about the same as my scramble TPS.

 

[MarcelP]

I just ordered this:

http://lightake.com/p/YJ-MoYu-Dian-Ma-3x3x3-Speed-Cube-Magic-Cube-Puzzle-57mm_m1214.html

Looks like a Gan III knock off I like it allready LOL..

 

[kcl]

So apparently I scramble really fast. I just did an ao12 of random state scrambling on cstimer and got 4.33..

 

[sneaklyfox]

How many moves is that? Because I think cstimer doesn't do 25 moves by default. I just went to the site and it gave me a 19-move scramble.

followed by 20, 21, 17, 19...

 

[Schmidt]

Haven't had a "long" session for a while, so I did 25 cubes in a row yesterday:

Spoiler

21.61, 26.33, 21.02, 47.30, 19.58, 28.21, 23.15, 22.11, 20.18, 24.88, 27.47, 22.19, 16.88, 24.33, 24.55, 23.97, 22.15, 23.30, 20.38, 21.80, 20.34, 19.16, 18.33, 20.91, 20.00

number of times: 25/25
best time: 16.88
worst time: 47.30


current avg5: 19.83 (σ = 0.61)
best avg5: 19.83 (σ = 0.61)


current avg12: 21.63 (σ = 1.78)
best avg12: 21.47 (σ = 2.01)


session avg: 22.35 (σ = 2.26)
session mean: 23.21

good ending!

and I set my weekly comp. PB's for 4 and 5 this week.
http://www.speedsolving.com/competitions/index.php?showRecords=127

 

[Schmidt]

Made with cstimer and an iPad

-----time    Cross     F2L-----OLL.   PLL
 1    26.98    3.07    16.77    3.27    3.86
 2    29.22    3.67    15.05    4.84    5.66
 3    27.11    5.03    13.69    4.30    4.09
 4    31.97    8.71    15.86    3.69    3.71
 5    25.81    4.23    16.36    2.65    2.58
 6    20.72    3.27    11.09    2.54    3.81
 7    28.94    3.06    17.47    3.62    4.79
 8    20.72    3.39    11.18    2.20    3.95
 9    21.36    2.58    11.62    4.06    3.10
10    24.90    2.97    14.89    3.49    3.56
11    24.80    2.43    13.40    3.39    5.58
12    27.36    4.35    14.89    4.15    3.98
13    23.66    3.62    12.50    3.39    4.15
14    25.33    4.77    12.94    2.80    4.82
15    26.85    3.38    13.26    5.47    4.75
16    27.25    6.13    12.73    3.07    5.33
17    29.16    8.71    12.50    3.24    4.71
18    24.37    3.91    12.57    4.01    3.88
19    23.84    4.71    16.05    1.88    1.20
20    21.82    3.75    11.33    3.03    3.71
21    29.37    6.21    15.20    4.08    3.88
22    25.21    4.11    13.82    4.03    3.25
23    19.62    4.59    12.23    1.97    0.83
24    20.88    2.57    12.13    3.31    2.86
25    23.16    5.87    9.25     3.96    4.08
26    17.98    2.65    8.33     2.44    4.57
27    22.40    3.35    11.94    2.70    4.40
28    18.69    2.92    9.70     2.16    3.92
29    26.18    3.14    16.94    1.97    4.13
30    25.42    2.53    16.45    2.70    3.75
31    22.92    4.09    10.76    3.01    5.06
32    30.63    6.89    17.75    2.00    3.99
33    23.09    4.14    10.84    2.99    5.12
34    20.99    3.65    11.12    2.89    3.33
35    23.40    4.83    11.52    3.12    3.94
36    20.39    3.88    10.42    1.79    4.29
37    23.20    2.46    15.29    2.59    2.87
38    20.71    4.85    10.37    2.69    2.79
39    21.97    5.77    10.77    1.90    3.54
40    24.94    8.64    9.51     2.81    3.99
41    24.19    5.15    11.85    2.81    4.38
42    22.29    5.05    11.38    3.18    2.68
43    23.16    4.26    12.97    1.98    3.95
44    25.61    2.62    14.08    3.47    5.45
45    22.14    4.73    10.56    2.53    4.32
46    26.59    3.52    13.73    5.37    3.97
47    24.82    2.87    14.85    4.36    2.75
48    20.55    3.23    12.61    2.33    2.37
49    23.80    3.82    13.20    2.52    4.25
50    26.40    3.27    15.10    4.14    3.89
solve: 50/50
mean: 24.26    4.23    13.02    3.14    3.88

this time I removed my right hand to touch the iPad to make a split time, but I think it costs too much time, so next time I will try to move the whole cube and hand down to the iPad to press instead

 

[mark49152]

New PB full step single: 17.04

Scramble: U D R B' F' L' R2 F B2 L R' U2 L2 F' B' U F2 L U2 L R' B2 D B2 R2

// white down, orange front
R' D' R D2 F' D2 // 6
R U R' U R U' R L' U L // 10/16
R' U R U' R' U' R // 7/23
U' R U' R' L U' L' // 7/30
U R U R' // 4/34
U' r U2 R' U' R U' r' // 8/42
R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U // 14/56

First time I've ever been able to successfully reconstruct a PB. I tried doing the same solve a few times over and best was 11.71 which is the fastest I ever solved a cube

Well, my cross Ao50 from when all this started was 1.73. Assuming an average 6-move cross means I have almost 3.5 TPS during cross, which is about the same as my scramble TPS.

I accidentally deleted the spreadsheet I had those numbers in, but I think the conclusion is that my scrambling sucks compared to yours.

I did the 25 move scramble Ao50.. Man, my elbows cramped up.. I got to 10.69 average. (2.33 TPS)

And my scrambling sucks compared to Marcel's. And it's pretty boring so I am going back to good old cross+1...

Welcome to
~~ Marcel's Bar ~~
Spring Festival of Cross+1
"Turn it fast and raise your glass!"​

Updates as of 15 March. Last one to get a PB gets the beers in.

[table="width: 700, class: grid"]
[tr]
[td]Jolly punter[/td]
[td]Starting point[/td]
[td]Goal[/td]
[td]PB progress[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Marcel[/td]
[td]Ao50 = 6.84[/td]
[td]Ao50 < 5 by summer[/td]
[td]6.38 - sub 5 might be tough but doable by summer. GO MARCEL! [/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Melody[/td]
[td]ao50 = 3.99[/td]
[td]ao50 < 3.5[/td]
[td]4.05 then 3.97 - been practicing planning the whole cross+1 during inspection[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Kennan[/td]
[td]ao12 = 2.39, ao5 = 1.88[/td]
[td]ao12 < 2[/td]
[td]2.04 ao12 grr, 2.00 ao12 grrr. Dude you need a new target.[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Mark[/td]
[td]ao50 = 7.03[/td]
[td]ao50 < 6 by 31 March[/td]
[td]Fluctuated between 6.58-7.86. About as much lookahead as a mole. [/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Raoul[/td]
[td]ao19 = 6.91[/td]
[td]sub 6 by summer, sub 5 3 months later[/td]
[td]6.40 nice result, but wasn't on film, so didn't happen [/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]ajayd[/td]
[td]ao12 = 4.44[/td]
[td]Sub 4 by August[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Pipkicksarse[/td]
[td]mean = 5.74[/td]
[td]Sub 4.5[/td]
[td][/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

 

[pipkiksass]

New PB full step single: 17.04

Congrats Mark.

And totally forgot about cross + 1. Need to do some work on that this week - don't want to have to buy the first round!

It's 'ass', not 'arse', by the way.

 

[mark49152]

It's 'ass', not 'arse', by the way.

Oh, and I thought I was helpfully correcting your spelling mistake

 

[pipkiksass]

Oh, and I thought I was helpfully correcting your spelling mistake

Lol!

It's a VERY long story, but intentionally mis-spelt. A trans-atlantic cultural tour-de-force covering 400+ years of British history and literature, emerging in an incidental South Park character. And, as we all know, "Cartoons kick ass"!

 

[mark49152]

It's a VERY long story, but intentionally mis-spelt. A trans-atlantic cultural tour-de-force covering 400+ years of British history and literature, emerging in an incidental South Park character. And, as we all know, "Cartoons kick ass"!

I see. Well, I shall de-correct it then on the basis that the arse being kicked is from the other side of the Atlantic. That's reasonable.

It will have to wait until I'm on my PC though, as Tapatalk kills tables.

 

[MarcelP]

@Mark (I am on iPad and quote thingy sucks major) congrats on Pb single. I got a 24.xx on that scramble. I did not have a 6 move cross solution. On second try woth your cross solution I had a 20.xx. Nicely done.

@Schmidt nice last 5 solves. We are at about same speed now.

@all, did you guys see that Worlds 2015 might be in France?

http://forum.speedcubingfrance.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=116

Would not it be nice to meet up there? I think that would be awesome..

 

[AmazingCuber]

Hi, Marcel from Holland here

Wow, worlds in France!? Awesome! I really want this to happen and would love to go!

 

[CriticalCubing]

France is nice, but I will need discount on Airfare and Hotels if I have to go...
Dosent anybody sponsor these ?? Airfare and Hotels ?

 

[kcl]

Hi, Marcel from Holland here

France is nice, but I will need discount on Airfare and Hotels if I have to go...
Dosent anybody sponsor these ?? Airfare and Hotels ?

No..? Basically the only possible way to get "sponsored" is to be somebody who can break records in like 10 events.. So basically faz.
Or if you win something like nationals iirc you get a paid trip to worlds. I could be confusing that with the yoyo world so don't quote me on that.

 

[MarcelP]

Basically the only possible way to get "sponsored" is to be somebody who can break records in like 10 events..

Ah.. someone like me? yeah.. I think I will be head to head with eighter Mats or Feliks in de 3X3 final

 

[MeJoho]

I figured out that this would be the best place to make my first post.
So I don't ******* up by posting a totally wrong place

Anyway, I'm from Denmark and I have 2 cubes.
- The classic Rubik's Cube with stickers
- "The New Rubik's Cube", which I just bought and I like much more because it does not have stickers, and it's more smooth.

I'm here to get into the community and maybe learn a lot.

When I just bought the New Rubik's Cube it was to get rid of the frustration about the classic one,
but I am fully aware that I should buy a whole other brand if I want a really good speedcube. (I don't have a speedcube yet)

I'm thinking of getting the 3x3x3 Dayan GuHong V2 II from the SpeedPuzzles shop.
I just do the cube for fun, I'm really slow, but it would be nice to become better.

Ok, looking forward to read posts from you guys.

 

[MarcelP]

I'm thinking of getting the 3x3x3 Dayan GuHong V2 II from the SpeedPuzzles shop.
I just do the cube for fun, I'm really slow, but it would be nice to become better.

Ok, looking forward to read posts from you guys.

Hi,

You have come to the right place When I started out here I could barely solve a rubiks cube under two minutes (had a 1:30 PB or so). Now I average 24 secs. You can become as fast as you want. It is just a matter of dedication. If I may make a suggestion on the new cube, take a look at lightake.com and cubezz.com. I order there frequently. It is cheap and reliable. It will take about two weeks to get to you. I would suggest a YJ ChiLong, a Gan III, V2 57mm, MoYu LiYing over any Guhung I have ever seen.