Official confirmation of the removal of Magic and Master Magic events

[cityzach]

One question (problem really): What will happen to the people and IDs that have only competed in Magic and Master Magic? Will they be deleted, hidden, or just left blank?

For example: http://worldcubeassociation.org/results/p.php?i=2011BADU01

 

[asportking]

Magic may be fun to some people, but it just doesn't fit in. It's called "speedcubing" because it involves twisty puzzles. Magics don't really do that. It we kept magics in, we may as well put speedstacking in too and make it one huge organization. Sure, some people claim it helps "relax" them, but if that's the only reason they do magic, then they can practice it unofficially. There's only a certain amount of official events that people can handle efficiently, and eliminating magic and master magic would make it a lot easier for organizers and maybe open up some space for new official events.

 

[manstrong]

With the loss of 2 competitions, will anything new becoming in for replacement?

 

[Tim Reynolds]

Zach: the current behavior, I think, is that they'll still be there but no times will be listed on their profiles.

 

[Hyprul 9-ty2]

With the loss of 2 competitions, will anything new becoming in for replacement?

If there are going to replacements, I think Skewb would be a nice addition.

 

[Michael Womack]

With the loss of 2 competitions, will anything new becoming in for replacement?

I think 8x8 and skewb should take the place

 

[asportking]

I think 8x8 and skewb should take the place

Probably not 8x8. It takes forever, it's pretty expensive, and not a lot of people have it. And I don't know what the general consensus is right now, but I remember some people considered the SS 8x8 to be a knockoff, and since that's the only 8x8 available, it might not be the best idea to create an event where the only cube available can be considered to be a KO.

 

[Michael Womack]

Probably not 8x8. It takes forever, it's pretty expensive, and not a lot of people have it. And I don't know what the general consensus is right now, but I remember some people considered the SS 8x8 to be a knockoff, and since that's the only 8x8 available, it might not be the best idea to create an event where the only cube available can be considered to be a KO.

the UWR for 8x8 is 6:50.xx

 

[uberCuber]

With the loss of 2 competitions, will anything new becoming in for replacement?

If there are going to replacements, I think Skewb would be a nice addition.

I think 8x8 and skewb should take the place

If any new events do get added, it's not going to be specifically because magics are being removed. It has already been said by more than one important person that any new events to be added would not be, and should be thought of as, 'replacements.' The removal of events and addition of others are mutually exclusive occurrences.

 

[hcfong]

If any new events do get added, it's not going to be specifically because magics are being removed. It has already been said by more than one important person that any new events to be added would not be, and should be thought of as, 'replacements.' The removal of events and addition of others are mutually exclusive occurrences.

Not mutually exclusive. If they were mutually exclusive occurences, it would mean that when one occurs, the other cannot occur. I think you mean that the addition and removal of events are unrelated.

 

[uberCuber]

Not mutually exclusive. If they were mutually exclusive occurences, it would mean that when one occurs, the other cannot occur. I think you mean that the addition and removal of events are unrelated.

Yes, thank you, that is what I meant

 

[Bob]

I think the Magic and MM times should still be listed on profiles. This was an official event for 10 years. Some people have competed in Magic for hundreds of solves. I don't think that we should just hide that. It's different than MultiBLD old style. With MultiBLD, we CHANGED the event. For this event, we're removing it. I recommend that times and rankings are still listed but they will just remain static.

 

[Thepuzzlesolver]

I think the Magic and MM times should still be listed on profiles. This was an official event for 10 years. Some people have competed in Magic for hundreds of solves. I don't think that we should just hide that. It's different than MultiBLD old style. With MultiBLD, we CHANGED the event. For this event, we're removing it. I recommend that times and rankings are still listed but they will just remain static.

Agreed

 

[Kirjava]

I see no reason to have ranking and times for an event we don't hold.

 

[antoineccantin]

I see no reason to have ranking and times for an event we don't hold.

He explained it pretty well. However, I don't think it is necessary to keep them in the "Current Personal Records", only in the History.

 

[APdRF]

I think the opposite, why should we maintain a ranking that will never change?

 

[ThomasJE]

We could have a section for 'Defunct Events', where there are the results for old Multi-BLD, Magic and Master Magic. This way, people who care about these events know that their times are still in the WCA database.

 

[Daniel Que]

Awwww, magic was fun
:') it was a good run lol

 

[Kirjava]

He explained it pretty well.

I know. I am able to read text and understand it.

I disagreed with his reasoning and posted issues I had with his idea.

 

[kinch2002]

Magic solves should go at the bottom of your profile in some sort of new section called 'discontinued events'. They should be removed from the normal rankings, records, stats pages too (moved somewhere else if needs be).