New Event ideas (Poll)

[Mike Hughey]

You are amazing
How many moves did you get for BLD FMC?
I guess I was thinking speed-blind-FMC...

Um, well, that was the real problem - I think I may have had the best move count of anyone, and yet I think I went over a hundred. So by current rules, I guess it wouldn't work. I just did a regular BLD solve.

I do think it might be possible to speed-blind-style FMC blindfolded. I was starting to practice speedBLD for a little while there with the hope I could use that to really do FMC BLD, but I gave up on it pretty quickly. I'm not very good at speedBLD, I'm afraid. But I think someone who was really good at speedBLD, like Lucas, for instance, could probably do FMC BLD pretty well, perhaps even getting sub-50 moves.

 

[Riley]

One handed magic would actually be pretty cool.

 

[Jokerman5656]

One handed magic would actually be pretty cool.

OHITA would be more cool

 

[ottozing]

i think we should make skewb, heli cube and 360 official events along with other weird twisty puzzles. doing variations on current events ie: 7x7 oh bld underwater etc is stupid.

although 7x7 oh bld underwater would be pretty awesome

 

[Erik]

I see a lot of answers of people that fail to think practically. We cant have an unlimited number of events.
I think most ppl agree that the events we do have should be a variety of different disciplines. Therefore relay, other puzzles blindfolded or onehanded dont add anything new. In the same perspective I would like to see multiBLD go since it is just doing something we already do (3x3 BLD) a lot of times. Logically an event like most cubes in 10mins would make more sense that muti BLD. Also multiBLD is VERY time consuming.

So to all ppl here proposing stuff like 6BLD or 2x2 oh: do you honestly think this adds anything significant 'new-ness' or extra dimension?

A competition where all events are held with a couple of rounds already takes 2 days of competition where on one day it often happens the comp lasts more than 12 hours a day!

New events that contribute to getting a wider variety of events could be:
- skewb (widely known, is different and doesnt take long)
- teamBLD: ive done quite some comps where it was held unofficially and always with big success. It adds a very new dimension of being a team, a social aspect. Also the sheet of paper is no hinder for both solver and caller in my experience. This event also doesnt take very long. Also since the number of competitors is at most 50% of all since its a team.

 

[Cheese11]

OHITA would be more cool

Sure it would be more cool but there would only be about 8 people in the world who could compete in it.

 

[Yuxuibbs]

we should have team bld....

and i feel like we should add new puzzles, not just make almost everything bld or OH.

relays would be fun. forces u to work on getting better at every single puzzle instead of just 1. i have trouble forcing myself to practice any cube bigger than 3x3 just because i dont bother learning parity algs and last 2 edge algs.

 

[jla]

And nobody has mentioned the rubik's twist.....

I think that would be pretty fun

 

[Yuxuibbs]

And nobody has mentioned the rubik's twist.....

I think that would be pretty fun

i thought there wasn't a "solved" position?

 

[bamilan]

"In the same perspective I would like to see multiBLD go since it is just doing something we already do (3x3 BLD) a lot of times. Logically an event like most cubes in 10mins would make more sense than muti BLD."

Logically most cubes in 10 min is also doing the same thing(normal 3x3 solving) a lot of times why would it make more sense?

 

[ben1996123]

I think helicopter/curvy copter should be added maybe. It doesn't really take that much time, especially if it was mean of 3 or something.

 

[purplepirate]

2x2 OH fo sho

 

[HelpCube]

I certaintly think skewb would be a great addition, if master magic is a competition skewb should be too. It would definately have more competitors :3. I'm curious as to why teamBLD isn't up there? Seriously, teamBLD would be the best event on planet earth. Wait no, it would be out of this world

 

[Zane_C]

"In the same perspective I would like to see multiBLD go since it is just doing something we already do (3x3 BLD) a lot of times. Logically an event like most cubes in 10mins would make more sense than muti BLD."

How would doing 3x3 lots of times logically "make more sense" than multi BLD?
You may as well say bench pressing a 1 tonne car requires the same amount of skill as lifting a 10kg weight 100 times.

Cubing is not all about finger dexterity and speed solving technique, what multi BLD does is incorporate aspects memory.
A lot argue that: 3x3 BLD repeated = Multi BLD
If that was the case, the top 3BLD solvers would be the top multi BLD solvers. It seems illogical to have to explain the difference.

 

[Thompson]

To be honest skewb was the only event on the poll that I think would make sense to add to the official events. That's what I voted for.

 

[Erik]

How would doing 3x3 lots of times logically "make more sense" than multi BLD?
You may as well say bench pressing a 1 tonne car requires the same amount of skill as lifting a 10kg weight 100 times.

Cubing is not all about finger dexterity and speed solving technique, what multi BLD does is incorporate aspects memory.
A lot argue that: 3x3 BLD repeated = Multi BLD
If that was the case, the top 3BLD solvers would be the top multi BLD solvers. It seems illogical to have to explain the difference.

Are you sure Bamilan said that?

The core of speedcubing was the 3x3 cube, and solve this cube with 2 hands as fast as you can -> WC 1982 only this.

A sub-category or a variation of this is solving the cube blindfolded. Now we don't only have this once, we have it 4 times (3 BLD, multi BLD, 4x4 BLD and 5x5 BLD). I agree with you if you say a good 3BLD cuber is not automatically a good multi cuber. Which is why I only proposed one of the 'big 3' should go in my opinion.
It is a fact though that almost all good multi BLD cubers are relatively good at 4x4 BLD and 5x5 BLD too since the technique is mostly the same. There is not much uniqueness between the 3 of them, they all are a 'memory' event where you store lots of information in your brain. In that perspective I think: is it really important we have so many events that are almost the same (and take long) or would it be cooler to have a totally different event that is nothing like we already have? Clearly I'd favor the latter.

OH is also a sub-category, but we don't do 4x4 OH, 5x5 OH or relay OH either.

 

[~Phoenix Death~]

So it seems that Skewb and Heli Cube are the most popular. They should be added! Has Tyson had any say at all? I might have overlooked a post.

 

[kinch2002]

A sub-category or a variation of this is solving the cube blindfolded. Now we don't only have this once, we have it 4 times (3 BLD, multi BLD, 4x4 BLD and 5x5 BLD). I agree with you if you say a good 3BLD cuber is not automatically a good multi cuber. Which is why I only proposed one of the 'big 3' should go in my opinion.
It is a fact though that almost all good multi BLD cubers are relatively good at 4x4 BLD and 5x5 BLD too since the technique is mostly the same. There is not much uniqueness between the 3 of them, they all are a 'memory' event where you store lots of information in your brain. In that perspective I think: is it really important we have so many events that are almost the same (and take long) or would it be cooler to have a totally different event that is nothing like we already have? Clearly I'd favor the latter.

I do see where people come from when they think that a bld event should go. Imo 4bld and 5bld are the 2 most similar, and practising one usually drags the level of the other one up quite a bit too. So if one did go, I'd vote 5bld. As for multi, which takes an hour and definitely isn't the same as solving lots of 3blds, I think it should be kept. Taking that long can be annoying for scheduling, but personally I think it can run during lunch break at most places and most people don't use the hour (2 or 3 cubes) anyway. There's always the option of reducing total time to half an hour or something?

 

[MaeLSTRoM]

So it seems that Skewb and Heli Cube are the most popular. They should be added! Has Tyson had any say at all? I might have overlooked a post.

The only problem with Heli cube is what about people who only have a curvy copter of vice versa, would they be seperate events or the same? Also would you want to include jumbling in the Heli CUbe scrambles, because a program for that would be quite complicated.

On a side note. SKEWB! yes please

 

[Zane_C]

Are you sure Bamilan said that?

Yes, I'm sure Bamilan said something along the lines of multi BLD is 3x3 BLD repeated.
My previous post is solely devoted to the concept of: Multi BLD =/= 3x3 BLD

Nothing else.

It is a fact though that almost all good multi BLD cubers are relatively good at 4x4 BLD and 5x5 BLD too since the technique is mostly the same. There is not much uniqueness between the 3 of them, they all are a 'memory' event where you store lots of information in your brain. In that perspective I think: is it really important we have so many events that are almost the same (and take long) or would it be cooler to have a totally different event that
is nothing like we already have? Clearly I'd favor the latter.

You contention is clear and true, how much I would like to disagree I can't.

OH is also a sub-category, but we don't do 4x4 OH, 5x5 OH or relay OH either.

My personal opinion, those events seem ridiculous. However, there's absolutely no point in me arguing against this:

Like you suggested, even though 5x5 OH and 5x5 BLD may be strikingly similar in a certain sense, blindfold solving is my favourite event - for that reason my opinion is bias.