new blindfolds

hdskull said:
3. I think something similar to the "black pocket" can be used. Basically what I suggest is a blindfold and a rectangular box with 3 sides cut out, 2 on the side for hands/arms, and one on the side opposite of the cuber for the audience to see, and the solve itself should be conducted inside the box. I think it will be pretty hard to cheat like this.
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I think this is a perfect idea! Require the competitor to still wear the blindfold if we want to be extra saf, and place the stackmat inside the box and it should work!

Chris
 
But that requires the cube to be at a certain height? Some might like to hold the cube quite high up? And like me, I like to move about while cubing, this would make me not able to!
 
joey said:
But that requires the cube to be at a certain height? Some might like to hold the cube quite high up? And like me, I like to move about while cubing, this would make me not able to!
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You can still move about, I mean, if the idea is implemented, then the box would certainly a little bigger with space to move about.


Derrick: thanks for the video, I want to see a really fast solve of him though, but it's still cool to see that he's real and that he's Chinese. And I don't get what you mean by nose plugs, lol.
 
I still think hdskull's idea of the 3 sided box is the best idea proposed on this board so far, by far. It is easy to implement in competition and does not require a high cost, which is good for organizers. Joey brought up a good point, this would in effect require the competitor to sit for all BLD events. Multi BLD is still possible with this setup as well I might add.

I think being forced to sit (I prefer to stand) is worth it since the tradeoff is knowing that it's impossible to peek directly. I would gladly sit for all BLD events if it clears up this peeking issue.

Derrick Eide17 said:
no problem skull :P yeah i cant find any faster vids myself sorry lol :P now can someone PLEASE comment on my idea?!!? or ill cry lol.
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I don't see how the nose plugs would prevent anyone from tilting their head slightly to the side and still being able to peek out from under the furthest left or furthest right of their field of "peek vision". Yes I agree the plugs would probably block your center field of visible area below you, but still not the sides. Of course you could just require gigantic noseplugs that block all visible area, but I don't think that's feasible for competition if we want to be considered a serious sport/activity in any sense of the word serious.



Chris
 
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cmhardw said:
I think being forced to sit (I prefer to stand) is worth it since the tradeoff is knowing that it's impossible to peek directly. I would gladly sit for all BLD events if it clears up this peeking issue.
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I don't like the idea of being forced to sit down, but if the WCA starts to use this idea, I guess I will have to learn how to do it sitting down. I know it sounds odd, but my swaying does help me.

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The worse thing about BLD at competition for me is nerves, my diabetes goes funny when I get nervous!(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia) As you can see in my vid, I had to eat some glucose before I started!http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LxSZMki7PoM) Although, thats not something the WCA can help with :P
 
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I don't think the "black pocket" would work that well for multi bld...

imagine someone is doing 20 cubes...

we'd need a pretty big box to cover all those...and it would get hard for the competitor to place the arms around the big box...

imagine a 50 cm long box...I can see that becoming very unconfortable to have your arms open around it for...20 min


I was thinking about a thing...my blindfold is quite large...I mean, in height...

we could use big blindfolds, so they cover the nose and maybe beyond it...

that way it gets almost impossible to see the cube, unless you're holding it very close to your body...

my nose is kinda big, and my blindfold just allows me to see the cube if it's actually touching my body...
 
Hi Pedro,

What I envision for mutli BLD is that only the cube being solved is covered by the black pocket. The other cubes are set to the left and right, or further in front of the competitor. I think it would be obvious if the competitor tried to cheat to look at the current cube being solved.

Also there is no greater chance of the competitor peeking at the other cubes this method than with the current method.

I think the black pocket should only completely cover the cube in the competitor's hands, and possible a bit more area to accomodate movement of the cube up and down if something is thinking or shifting position.

Chris
 
I agree with Chris on that, you can easily move the cube you're solving into it and since you can't really touch the other cubes while solving, there isn't much to peek at.
 
I think it would have to cover the bottom part of the face, since being able to look down is the problem. A bigger blindfold would be the same as the towel solution Stefan presented. The downside as someone mentioned would be that it would cover the face and would be no joy for the audience/media to watch.
 
any drawbacks to my solution i would love to hear because i can't see ANY besides the TINIEST lack of comfort. and hdskul all it would be is a normal Blindfold but u have a noseplug on it that FORCES the bottom part to cover ur nose so u CANT SEE 100% sure. so ANY drawbacks? any at all??
 
Oh, on top of the blindfold, I don't know, I don't have a nose plug to try it out.
 
THANK YOU hdskull since your the ONLY one on here who has the courtesy to at least pay attention and respond to my idea so thanks :) so basically your right but the noseplus goes on ur nose so it would be near the bottom of the Blindfold itself. Also you dont really need a noseplug to try it out just put ur Blindfold on and then pinch the part near ur nose a little. with the Blindfold basically all you need is just a TINY bit of pressure putting the blindfold closer to the skin, so noseplug would be perfect and is best solution I think. so the new Blindfold problem..... is SOLVED.
 
I'd hate to really bring this up again... but I just found my good blindfold, after having it be lost for like 4 months. Like craig's, there's a little lip at the bottom of it, so that there's really no possible way to see out of the bottom. I got it at Rite-Aid for only a couple of bucks... I think that the WCA should look into approving these types of blindfolds.
 
This is going to sound silly, but a damp cloth will stick to things (as anyone who's been wet while wearing clothing can tell you)... so another idea might be to to get a dark cloth, make it damp with warm water, and then put it over the eyes so that it sticks to the skin around the eyes. A bandana or scarf would work fine for this.

A more serious idea - if we had some kind of one-way goggles, where the audience could see the person's eyes but the person couldn't see out, it might be a bit easier to tell if they are cheating. Of course Stefan's problem where you can see with your eyes apparently closed could still happen, but it would be easier to detect other cheaters.
 
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