New 2015 WCA Regulations (Effective July 1, 2015)

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oops =) and keyhole 4 sure
Scramble: L2 D R2 B2 D2 L2 D2 U' F2 L D2 F U R' D' F D2 F' D' U'
Solution: z2 B2 D' F D R' F R U2 R U' R2 U2 R L' U L
y' z2 R' D R U' F D F' U' R' D2 R U2 R' D' R D' F D2 F' D' R' F U R' D2 R
z2 y R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R'
y' R U R' U' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F
64 Move solution Keyhole (there is one but this is not it) oops again hate FMC

Non-beginners LBL with the same scramble:
Scramble: L2 D R2 B2 D2 L2 D2 U' F2 L D2 F U R' D' F D2 F' D' U'
1L: F2 B2 U B2 R U' F' L U2 R' F2 L2 F2 L F2
2L: U2 R' L F2 B U' B' R L' D B D' L2 D' L' D' L' D' L D L D
3L: F' D2 B D B' D F D2 F L F' D2 B R' B R B2
= 54 moves

 

[supercavitation]

I use pink too...

I do, too, but not for 3x3, 4x4, blind, feet, 4BLD, or SQ-1. WE NEED MORE CATEGORIES!

Also, every color scheme for mega gets its own category.

 

[guysensei1]

I'm really curious, how many of you already tried using stickerless cubes in competitions? What was the delegate reaction when they've seen you trying to use stikerless puzzle?

Saw a few people using stickerless cubes at Perth Winter. Tim was perfectly fine and didn't say anything about it.

 

[Dene]

Stickerless puzzles are now legal so delegates shouldn't do anything about it at all.

 

[suushiemaniac]

Now that the cubic AoFu is on it's way, are there any plans to ban pillowed 7x7s because ShengShou doesn't own the "monopoly" on cubic 7x7s any more?

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

I use pink too...

but do you have his shade of pink, on an Aolong v2? What about the other shades?

 

[guysensei1]

Now that the cubic AoFu is on it's way, are there any plans to ban pillowed 7x7s because Vcubes doesn't own the "monopoly" on pillowed 7x7s any more?

ftfy?

 

[suushiemaniac]

ftfy?

Thanks, but there's no need to fix it.
What I mean is that if the WCA had banned pillowed cubes for 7x7 as they did for every other event, they would have pushed virtually everyone into buying ShengShou, thus creating a monopoly because it was the only flat 7x7 at the time (that I know of).
Now that MoYu is about to release the AoFu GT (that's how they call it officially), there's an actual *choice* when looking for cubic 7x7 puzzles so pillowed 7x7 could theoretically be banned for consistency reasons...

 

[Isaac Lai]

Thanks, but there's no need to fix it.
What I mean is that if the WCA had banned pillowed cubes for 7x7 as they did for every other event, they would have pushed virtually everyone into buying ShengShou, thus creating a monopoly because it was the only flat 7x7 at the time (that I know of).
Now that MoYu is about to release the AoFu GT (that's how they call it officially), there's an actual *choice* when looking for cubic 7x7 puzzles so pillowed 7x7 could theoretically be banned for consistency reasons...

I don't think it would be very fair though. Iirc Lin Chen used a VCube 7 to set the 7x7 WR last year. There was also that German guy who got a 2:50 single with a pillowed aofu. Most people use cubic 7x7s, but not all.

 

[suushiemaniac]

I don't think it would be very fair though. Iirc Lin Chen used a VCube 7 to set the 7x7 WR last year. There was also that German guy who got a 2:50 single with a pillowed aofu. Most people use cubic 7x7s, but not all.

Yep, fairness is definitely a point to consider. That's why I was / still am asking on this thread

 

[Lucas Wesche]

I don't think it would be very fair though. Iirc Lin Chen used a VCube 7 to set the 7x7 WR last year. There was also that German guy who got a 2:50 single with a pillowed aofu. Most people use cubic 7x7s, but not all.

Yeah I agree, I use a pillowed aofu too and used a VCube before. I think the rules don't need to change just because there are now two cubic 7x7

 

[Berd]

I think it would be better to legalise all kinds of pillowed puzzles. What's even the issue with them?

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

I think it would be better to legalise all kinds of pillowed puzzles. What's even the issue with them?

If a really good pillowed cube came out that wasn't 7x7 they might consider it... especially if a lot of people wanted it and it was 3x3...

 

[biscuit]

I do, too, but not for 3x3, 4x4, blind, feet, 4BLD, or SQ-1. WE NEED MORE CATEGORIES!

Also, every color scheme for mega gets its own category.

I now have two puzzles with pink (2x2 and 3x3) and every time I buy a new puzzle I plan to replace red with pink.

We should totally have a category solely for bluhu's

 

[Berd]

If a really good pillowed cube came out that wasn't 7x7 they might consider it... especially if a lot of people wanted it and it was 3x3...

I just feel like the rules should be "uniform" like when stickerless cubes for blind became illegal.

 

[Myachii]

Why would there be any point banning pillowed 7x7s? I have a pillowed Aofu and I think it's fine, and by banning pillowed cubes all that would accomplish is making people like me have to buy yet another cube. And 7x7s certainly aren't cheap.

 

[suushiemaniac]

Why would there be any point banning pillowed 7x7s? I have a pillowed Aofu and I think it's fine, and by banning pillowed cubes all that would accomplish is making people like me have to buy yet another cube. And 7x7s certainly aren't cheap.

I definitely agree to this argument, and I'd like to clarify that my original post was just a question out of curiosity, not an implied suggestion to ban pillowed 7x7s.
Allowing other pillowed NxNxNs would also be a possibility to make the regulations more uniform, though I know that general uniformity in each and every point of the regs is kind of utopic to aim for.

 

[Arkwell]

Good idea! Why don't we also have white cubes in a different competition than black cubes or even Zhanchis in a different competing to Aolongs? A brilliant solution!

Because if you look all over the SS Forum, the talk for years has been about stickerless not being allowed because of a perceived 'lookahead' advantage. I'm not saying put all 3x3s but stickerless cubes are not the standard different color cubes.

 

[tseitsei]

I'm not saying put all 3x3s but stickerless cubes are not the standard different color cubes.

What? I have absolutely no idea what this sentence is supposed to say...

 

[joshsailscga]

Because if you look all over the SS Forum, the talk for years has been about stickerless not being allowed because of a perceived 'lookahead' advantage. I'm not saying put all 3x3s but stickerless cubes are not the standard different color cubes.

Berd was being sarcastic about the previous suggestion