My 3x3 in 9.90 seconds video. The umm... "fake" one

[mcciff2112]

I want to see a sub-1 4x4 solve please

Lol, I have only ever had 2 sub 1 4x4's, both were extremely lucky. The 49.33 second one was 2 centres skipped, and about 5 edges skipped, with a 3x3 PLL skip. AND!!! I dont have a 4x4...

Once I had a 4x4 scramble where all the centers were solved, all the edges were solved, and the 3x3 part was solved. It was my new PB

I call shenanigans

Alright you got me

 

[jdouglasusn]

0.16 2x2?!
HAHAH WAS IT A 2 MOVE SOLUTION?
If this was some other forum, id tell you to gtfo nooblet

It was a 1 move solution... I was on an optimal scrambler and the scramble was U

:fp

And you had the audacity to consider that a solve.
Congratulations, you just took it on to a whole new level.

I know right. I used a scrambler for my 2x2. (25 moves) After I did the scramble and went to inspection. i realized I only needed to do R,U2. (.5 seconds.) I'm not counting that. LOL

 

[Robert-Y]

I wonder what are the chances of getting 2 centres (2x2) already solved and in their correct positions... (probably badly worded...)

The centre skips don't suprise me, I get it all the time (last 2 centers)... But the edges and PLL skip are just too suspicious.

:s I'm not certain but I think that skipping at least one edge is common.

But 5 isn't.

Fair enough

 

[qqwref]

I think I've had about 5 edges skipped on a hi-games 4x4 solve. (It didn't have other skips, though).

It's not that being that lucky is impossible, but I really doubt it given ben's times. Unless he's the kind of person who practices all the time for months but never gets any faster, he has to be either really lucky or not legitimate.

 

[ben1996123]

I don't average sub 17 but I recently got my new PB of 10.17

It was a 36 move solve with a LL skip

Here's the scramble (from CCT) : R D2 U2 B2 F' D2 L' R2 D2 U F' D L R2 B2 F L2 R F2 L U' B2 D R2 F

and here's my solution:

cross: z D R' D R' F'
F2L 1: U y R U' R' U2 R' U' R
F2L2: U' L U L' U2 L U L'
F2L3: L' U L
F2L4: y' R' U R U2 R' U2 R U' R' U R
LL: U2

EDIT: Lying about the scramble and solution is suspicious though, I'm just saying it's possible. But if he has never been sub 15 non-lucky I highly doubt this is a real solve. I'm very unstable and my best non-lucky is 13.xy

Sometimes you just get lucky

Non Lucky PB is 14.25

 

[ben1996123]

I wonder what are the chances of getting 2 centres (2x2) already solved and in their correct positions... (probably badly worded...)

The centre skips don't suprise me, I get it all the time (last 2 centers)... But the edges and PLL skip are just too suspicious.

The 4x4 solve was first 2 centres skipped, and it was a proper scramble from CCT v0.9.2

 

[mark3]

I wonder what are the chances of getting 2 centres (2x2) already solved and in their correct positions... (probably badly worded...)

The centre skips don't suprise me, I get it all the time (last 2 centers)... But the edges and PLL skip are just too suspicious.

The 4x4 solve was first 2 centres skipped, and it was a proper scramble from CCT v0.9.2

Your 5x5 and up times don't match with the rest of your times. They are slow for someone who is sub-1 on the 4x4.

 

[Rikane]

I wonder what are the chances of getting 2 centres (2x2) already solved and in their correct positions... (probably badly worded...)

The centre skips don't suprise me, I get it all the time (last 2 centers)... But the edges and PLL skip are just too suspicious.

The 4x4 solve was first 2 centres skipped, and it was a proper scramble from CCT v0.9.2

Your 5x5 and up times don't match with the rest of your times. They are slow for someone who is sub-1 on the 4x4.

I can easily average sub-25 on the 3^3 (I have proof of this), but I can't even sub 5min the 4^3. Does this mean I'm a fake?

Sometimes people just don't practice other cubes.

As for him being a fake? I don't really care at this point in time.

 

[joey]

Also, I don't think he says that averages sub-1.

 

[(X)]

I don't average sub 17 but I recently got my new PB of 10.17

It was a 36 move solve with a LL skip

Here's the scramble (from CCT) : R D2 U2 B2 F' D2 L' R2 D2 U F' D L R2 B2 F L2 R F2 L U' B2 D R2 F

and here's my solution:

cross: z D R' D R' F'
F2L 1: U y R U' R' U2 R' U' R
F2L2: U' L U L' U2 L U L'
F2L3: L' U L
F2L4: y' R' U R U2 R' U2 R U' R' U R
LL: U2

EDIT: Lying about the scramble and solution is suspicious though, I'm just saying it's possible. But if he has never been sub 15 non-lucky I highly doubt this is a real solve. I'm very unstable and my best non-lucky is 13.xy

Sometimes you just get lucky

Non Lucky PB is 14.25

You didn't answer to the fact that you faked the scramble/solve

 

[Carrot]

I wonder what are the chances of getting 2 centres (2x2) already solved and in their correct positions... (probably badly worded...)

The centre skips don't suprise me, I get it all the time (last 2 centers)... But the edges and PLL skip are just too suspicious.

The 4x4 solve was first 2 centres skipped, and it was a proper scramble from CCT v0.9.2

Your 5x5 and up times don't match with the rest of your times. They are slow for someone who is sub-1 on the 4x4.

I normally average 16-18 on 3x3x3... 1½ minutes on 4x4 and 6-10 minutes with 5x5x5... does that mean I'm a faker too? nice! =D

 

[CharlieCooper]

I wonder what are the chances of getting 2 centres (2x2) already solved and in their correct positions... (probably badly worded...)

The centre skips don't suprise me, I get it all the time (last 2 centers)... But the edges and PLL skip are just too suspicious.

The 4x4 solve was first 2 centres skipped, and it was a proper scramble from CCT v0.9.2

Your 5x5 and up times don't match with the rest of your times. They are slow for someone who is sub-1 on the 4x4.

I normally average 16-18 on 3x3x3... 1½ minutes on 4x4 and 6-10 minutes with 5x5x5... does that mean I'm a faker too? nice! =D

No. I think the point that is being made here is that Ben suggests that he gets lucky times of 9.xx, when his averages are not even sub 20. With 4x4 he gets lucky times that are sub 50, which is a little suspicious, when those who get such times on 4x4 are *usually* quite good at 5x5 too.

What I find odd is that to get a sub 50 solve on a 4x4, when usually averaging 20 seconds for 3x3, one would need to have centres and edges done in 30 seconds maximum, which is being quite generous and assuming that one's execution of the 3x3 part of the solve is as fast as on a 3x3 cube.

 

[waffle=ijm]

Fake or not, I don't care.

I'm just ticked off that he double posted on page 5.

 

[daeyoungyoon]

2x2 - 0.16 seconds - lucky (I was on an optimal scrambler and the scramble was U)

Square 1 - 7.39 seconds (lol, too lucky, CO, EO, EP skip, cube shape in 3 moves, CP, done.)

Lol, I have only ever had 2 sub 1 4x4's, both were extremely lucky. The 49.33 second one was 2 centres skipped, and about 5 edges skipped, with a 3x3 PLL skip. AND!!! I dont have a 4x4...

And this 3 move double extended cross...

Can you tell me your secrets of getting so many lucky scrambles????

 

[MTGjumper]

His square-1 PB is faster than my PB, lucky or non-lucky

 

[Robert-Y]

His square-1 PB is faster than my PB, lucky or non-lucky

You should let Ben scramble your square-1 at Bristol Open

 

[ben1996123]

His square-1 PB is faster than my PB, lucky or non-lucky

You should let Ben scramble your square-1 at Bristol Open

Not going to Bristol open. And I have decided to remove the 7.39 sq-1 from my channel descripton, since it was scrambled by someone else who dosent really scramble it very well.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

His square-1 PB is faster than my PB, lucky or non-lucky

You should let Ben scramble your square-1 at Bristol Open

Not going to Bristol open. And I have decided to remove the 7.39 sq-1 from my channel descripton, since it was scrambled by someone else who dosent really scramble it very well.

 

[ben1996123]

Sorry, but I am serious. I am going to UK open in manchester.

 

[Anthony]

F2L4: y' R' U R U2 R' U2 R U' R' U R

Try this to solve that pair next time (unless you see a skip coming. ).

U' R' U2 R U R' U' R.