MoYu AoChuang First Impressions

Ninja Storm said:
Out of everyone to send the cube to, it's sent to a guy who can't even get sub1:30 on 4x4.

C'mon. Any reasonably fast cuber could've done a great review on this.
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Pretty sure it's because he created a youtube that gets high traffic thanks to all the work he put into his channel and then the fact that on his own he built a relationship with ppl at Cubezz and lightake. It's who you know bro.

Would a faster person make better use of this cube? Definitely.
Would they have a better review? Maybe. I have seen some terrible reviews and tutorials from fast people however.
 
Lazy Einstein said:
Pretty sure it's because he created a youtube that gets high traffic thanks to all the work he put into his channel and then the fact that on his own he built a relationship with ppl at Cubezz and lightake. It's who you know bro.

Would a faster person make better use of this cube? Definitely.
Would they have a better review? Maybe. I have seen some terrible reviews and tutorials from fast people however.
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It did not seem like people were complaining that the review is bad. They are saying as a slower cuber he is not equipped to represent how the cube preforms for faster cubers. This is an obvious point and no one really disagrees. I don't have any issue with Paradoxcubing generally being the first to review cubes, but I always wait for multiple reviews from faster cubers before I form an opinion on a cube.
 
Bindedsa said:
It did not seem like people were complaining that the review is bad. They are saying as a slower cuber he is not equipped to represent how the cube preforms for faster cubers. This is an obvious point and no one really disagrees. I don't have any issue with Paradoxcubing generally being the first to review cubes, but I always wait for multiple reviews from faster cubers before I form an opinion on a cube.
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^^^

Maybe I was too mean on my post. I didn't mean it to insult him or his review, more of Lightake/Cubezz's choice of first testers.
 
Wow, I just started cubing recently, and joined these forums a couple months ago. I find more complaints about posting in the wrong place, or someone not being qualified to comment more that positive constructive comments. In a thread about being sub 10 someone commented how he got from sub30 to about 12 and a couple people got upset that he shouldn't be posting. So what if the reviewer is not one of the best int he world, it was a good review.

Let's lighten up and focus on comments about the cube and stop complaining.
 
ViolaBouquet said:
Wow, I just started cubing recently, and joined these forums a couple months ago. I find more complaints about posting in the wrong place, or someone not being qualified to comment more that positive constructive comments.
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That is a ridiculous statement, it seems like anytime someone is in the least bit negative suddenly people are complaining about how critical these forums are. I hope you are exaggerating and that is not what you take away from these forums, because it is simply wrong.

ViolaBouquet said:
In a thread about being sub 10 someone commented how he got from sub30 to about 12 and a couple people got upset that he shouldn't be posting. So what if the reviewer is not one of the best int he world, it was a good review.
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I assume your are talking about this post. In that example, he explained how he went from 30 to 17 seconds, which is very different from what you said and far less relevant. If you look at the initial post, The OP said he already averaged about 17-20, meaning either the poster did not read the post or decided to post what he did anyway. People replying said it did not belong in that thread, which is completely correct. If he had posted in a different thread such as this thread, I am sure it would have have gotten much more positive responses. Furthermore, following a short discussion of that post there was more than 40 posts that were far more relevant and constructive. Almost any criticism can be explained and justified similarly and those which is not are always denounced.

ViolaBouquet said:
Let's lighten up and focus on comments about the cube and stop complaining.
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The majority of the people who watched this video did not complain, those who did had a valid reason, at least in my eyes. Do you think no one should ever say anything negative? If someone simple put up a video of them smashing the cube, would you have an issue with someone complaining then? What if all they did was put the cube in frame for five minutes, then? Where do you draw the line? Certainly not when the complaints are valid and they all were. They may not have been kind, but they were fair.
 
XTowncuber said:
At least from this demonstration, I'm disappointed. It looks really locky. Obviously I could be completely wrong, but it just doesn't look too good.
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I think that's just because of his turning style, not the actual cube itself; unfortunately there is no way of knowing.

I should be getting mine soon.
 
ViolaBouquet said:
So what if the reviewer is not one of the best int he world, it was a good review.
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In what way was it a good review? I know what it looks like, how big it is compared to SS and that someone says it doesn't lock up while it quite clearly does.

IMO the review was about as relevant to the puzzle for speedcubers as a car review without access to the key or statistics is to car fanatics.

This was posted on the speedsolving forum if you need to be reminded.
 
cube-o-holic said:
In what way was it a good review? I know what it looks like, how big it is compared to SS and that someone says it doesn't lock up while it quite clearly does.

IMO the review was about as relevant to the puzzle for speedcubers as a car review without access to the key or statistics is to car fanatics.

This was posted on the speedsolving forum if you need to be reminded.
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You recieved you Aochuang??? Can you Video review it ...
I would like a few more reviews before getting it ....:D
 
Would love to get this cube to Rob Yau ASAP like I have posted previously but I haven't gotten an email from cubezz that my order has been dispatched by UPS yet.

All you would learn from me is that I can turn it slowly and barely pause to get my 'passible' times which can be viewed in my WCA profile.
 
Lazy Einstein said:
Pretty sure it's because he created a youtube that gets high traffic thanks to all the work he put into his channel and then the fact that on his own he built a relationship with ppl at Cubezz and lightake. It's who you know bro.

Would a faster person make better use of this cube? Definitely.
Would they have a better review? Maybe. I have seen some terrible reviews and tutorials from fast people however.
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While I do agree with you and am in no way taking credit out of paradox, I think faster cubers should get new puzzles first (or at least as soon as testers/youtubers do). They are the ones who can really say what a cube is capable of, which I guess is what people are hoping to hear about. As soon as i get mine (which won't happen soon) I'll do my best to deliver a nice, comprehensive review.
 
Thank you all for your input. I don't take this is as "hate" or "insults", but as feedback to help me improve my videos. Now I know I should start practicing a certain puzzle before I get a new one to make a proper first impressions video. And yes, you're right that someone with more knowledge and expertise on 5x5 could probably make a better review and recommendation than I did, which was why I admitted that I don't know a lot about 5x5 and I'm not sure if what I experienced about the AoChuang will create problems or not. After playing with it for a day now and practicing my 5x5 fingertricks, I realized that it does not catch or lock up at all how I showed in the video. That was just me messing around with it, you don't normally need to cut middle layers during a 5x5 solve. It's very fast and helps me execute the parity and flipping algorithms fluently unlike on the SS 5x5. And another thing to note is that being fast on 5x5 is not all fingertricks and TPS, it's also look ahead, and that's what slows me down the most. Now that I am a bit warmed up on 5x5, I think I might make a solve video, should I? I am also waiting on faster cubers who are more experienced with 5x5 to make reviews and see what they think. I personally think this is the AoSu of 5x5s. It will revolutionize this event just like the AoSu did for 4x4.
Thanks everyone for having my back and defending me, but I also somewhat agree with the people who think this first impressions video was not very useful in determining whether this is the next best 5x5. But that's not what a first impressions video is for, that is what reviews are for, and I'm still playing with this to get some thoughts on it. Right now I think it's amazing.
 
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Paradox Cubing said:
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I appreciate both your honesty and your video. Regardless of what people thought of the video, it showed more than we previously knew about the cube and IMO would have been scrutinized a LOT less if it were not the very first vid. I appreciated the footage (as a slower solver myself) and look forward to the follow up
 
This whole thread isn't even about the AoChuang. Every one needs to relax until other reviews are out or buy the cube yourself and form your own opinion.
 
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