Moving down from 50 to 40

[roaggarwal]

Hi. I am having trouble consistently going below 50. I use Fredrich f2l and 4 look ll( i am learning 1 look pll) I cant seem to cut off time on F2l. I am at about 35 seconds. Any tips to bring that time down.

 

[waffle=ijm]

yes.

use Fridrich since Fredrich is a fail method.

Look ahead more. Don't worry about speed rather aim for smoothness in execution.

 

[V-te]

Lol. Dare I say it???

practice.....

 

[*LukeMayn*]

Lol. Dare I say it???

practice.....

LOL, I thought you were going to say

Or you could just use petrus.

anyway, practise watching other pieces and not what you're doing.

 

[Jokerman5656]

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

 

[Tim Major]

Get your cross under 4 seconds. Be able to do it blindfolded. Make sure you do cross on bottom. This will actually improve your f2l, working on your cross. Also, you do not have to turn fast to be fast.

 

[Jokerman5656]

just to add to what i said, dont time yourself until your cube NEEDS new stickers lol. start with a new one now i guess

 

[Cyrus C.]

Practice, your F2L is horrid, try to not use many cube rotations.

 

[DavidSanders]

For F2L work on fingertricks and looking ahead. I do not know how your cubing style is, so I can not really give you many more tips.

 

[Kxg]

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

 

[nigtv]

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

I would avoid practicing in the car as well.

 

[Cyrus C.]

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

I would avoid practicing in the car as well.

Why?

 

[Arendil]

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

That happened to me once....

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

I would avoid practicing in the car as well.

Why?

bad things happpen in cars.... (Pieces go flying and you end up forgetting your cube places.)

 

[Cyrus C.]

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

That happened to me once....

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

I would avoid practicing in the car as well.

Why?

bad things happpen in cars.... (Pieces go flying and you end up forgetting your cube places.)

That made no sense.

 

[Arendil]

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

That happened to me once....

stop timing yourself and just solve it. teach a friend. play with it all the time; in class, at home, in the car, at a store, on the toilet, watching tv, between deaths on MW2 hardcore, between texts from people, on the phone, anything. but my main suggestion is to stop timing yourself until you are VERY confident you can get below 50 every time.

Not if you cube tends to pop.

I would avoid practicing in the car as well.

Why?

bad things happpen in cars.... (Pieces go flying and you end up forgetting your cube places.)

That made no sense.

Bad things happen in cars. You can get a pop and end up losing a piece. Generally if you're in a car, you're going somewhere and wherever you're going you're probably bringing your cube with you. Therefore, its easy to end up forgetting your cube wherever you're going. (Is that any clearer? )

 

[JackJ]

yeah use the "calm cubing" style on your F2L. Its all look-ahead. I only know 17 of the 21 PLL's, and I'm sub 25. I've only learned one algorithm since October. LOL

 

[SuperNerd]

Are you using algorithm F2L? If you are, that can slow down a lot because you have to recognize the case, then recall the alg. I recommend using intuitive F2L. If you have trouble figuring out Intuitive F2L, try using RobH0629's tutorials on YouTube.

Hope this helped!
-SuperNerd

 

[TheMachanga]

Instead of timing, just do fewest moves F2L.

 

[Ranzha]

Introduction to intuitive F2L, 2-look OLL, and full PLL (from 2-look), with times to get you sub-40:

Break up your solve. This ensures that you get consistent times in the different steps of solving. The times listed are for your personal gain. Here's how I would do this:

USE INSPECTION TIME. Oh my gawd, have I hated the times where I haven't inspected the cube. Inspection is meant to plan out your cross. As you probably know, a cross can be executed in 8 moves 100% of the time. 7 moves is liek 99.99% of the time. Considering this, with slower times (say, over 45, where I was a month or so ago, and now I'm getting sub-30s), if you're getting 9 or 10 moves on your cross is OKAY. Look for impulsive ways on getting a cross solved, and make sure you remember where all of the cross pieces are! Time: sub-4 seconds.

F2L: intuitive or algorithmic? I use a different type of method for F2L, but have enjoyed the feeling I get when I do intuitive F2L. Many people like to use this because, unlike learning algorithms to solve cases, you learn the cases and use muscle memory for your own algorithms. This saves time for thinking and recognition. On YouTube, RobH0629 has a great beginner intuitive F2L video, if you need it. Time: 20-25 seconds.

OLL: 2-look. Unless you have a ginormous block of time to learn full OLL, 2-look is both easy to learn and to use. Personally, I do edges, then corners. This way, my middle and ring fingers don't lock up when trying to do M2s and M's. The simple {F sexy move F'}, {f sexy move f'}, and {F sexy move S sexy move f'} are easy to learn and to execute for edges. Time: sub-3 seconds.
Corners are completely different. There are seven cases. Before learning seven new algorithms, you should already know the Sune and Antisune.
Sune: R U R' U R U2 R'.
Antisune (inverse): R U2 R' U' R U' R'.
These keep the orientation of the edges, orient some, if not all, corners, and H-perm-plus-U2 the edges. Quite simple. Experiment with this until you want to learn the algorithms.Time: sub-4 seconds.

PLL: transition from 2L to full. This is a milestone step in your ways of being a cuber.
Full PLL is a beast to learn if you haven’t ever spent time learning algorithms at one time. These 21 algorithms will quicken your execution time by shaving seconds off of your time.
For 2-look, you should know 7 of them. Time: sub-6 seconds.
These should be:
● The 2 A-perms and E-perm for corners.
● The 2 U-perms, H-perm, and Z-perm for edges.
These are good for a while, but once you consider the possibilities of PLL, you should notice that full benefits you.
Here’s how I’ve been learning them (I have 17/21—I don’t want to learn the Gs):
The 2-look algs (7).
T-perm and Y-perm: easy to remember, execute, and to finger trick.
Rs and Js, separately: These’ll help a bunch. Not kidding. Make sure you know the differences between a J and an R, and (J/R)1 from (J/R)2!
F and V: You’ll need them. Nuff said.
Ns and Gs: hard to recognise for a beginner, and not many good algorithms for them.
For all of this, I advise you to look on the wiki for good algs. Time: 2-4 seconds (full PLL).

I used this before, and I'm using it again.

 

[PatrickJameson]

bad things happpen in cars.... (Pieces go flying and you end up forgetting your cube places.)

Especially if you get into a car crash. (I almost lost a piece when I was involved in an accident. Found it on the highway after I got out of the car ).