Melbourne unnoficial comp

[xpboy]

oh no, if the offical comp is during Australia open 2009 problely i wont attend, cuz i will back to china until 13th feb T_T

 

[Faz]

sure, xpboy, you will prbably win bld by the looks of it.

 

[Faz]

UPDATED:

Schedule and address and list of pre registered competitors is up.

I have been away for a week and im coming back saturday night.

 

[TimMc]

I just got a 1.11 and 1.19 the other day, with a few other sub 1.3 solves and broke my Magic :-(

Hopefully I can get some strings or a new Magic by then ;-)

Tim.

 

[joshuali]

sorry guys...my magic record is pathetic i know...hehe

 

[Ton]

- A delegate
- An official judge (who wants to learn the rules off by heart and not compete?)
- Scramblers
- Judges & Recorders (see WCA rules and regulations for more info)

I suggest you video the unofficial event , so the you can show the WCA you can handle an event and know the rules, this could result in a local delegate

- An official judge (who wants to learn the rules off by heart and not compete?)

-Well you need a person per event that is not competing , this will be the main judge for that event. So it is not needed to have one person for the whole competition.
-Judges and scramblers can be the compititors if you work in groups, a score taker is very helpfull as this a lot of work

 

[Rubixcubematt]

- A delegate
- An official judge (who wants to learn the rules off by heart and not compete?)
- Scramblers
- Judges & Recorders (see WCA rules and regulations for more info)

I suggest you video the unofficial event , so the you can show the WCA you can handle an event and know the rules, this could result in a local delegate

- An official judge (who wants to learn the rules off by heart and not compete?)

-Well you need a person per event that is not competing , this will be the main judge for that event. So it is not needed to have one person for the whole competition.
-Judges and scramblers can be the compititors if you work in groups, a score taker is very helpfull as this a lot of work

i was originally planning on recording events to put on youtube, but we could also use the video footage to prove we can organise one. THANKS A TON

 

[Leviticus]

I was waiting for the "Thanks a Ton" pun, lol that rhymes.

 

[TimMc]

Hmm, once the events are confirmed. Do you want to confirm the format?

I.e. 3x3x3 Best of 12 / Average of 5 etc

This will let you determine how many scrambles will be required on the day. I can get a work colleague to print some out and seal them in an envelope for each event. Just to ensure fairness...

It might be worth delegating some tasks (scramblers, judges etc) at this stage in preparation. There's probably enough people to start that at least.

Tim.

 

[Rubixcubematt]

tim, the order of events is confirmed (apart from magic), just not the format. i don't mind what format that everything is, but for OH i say just have an average of 5, i think an average of 12 would take too long. for BLD, definately just have the best solve out of 3. also for 4x4 and 5x5,i think we should have them as an average of 5 because ,IMHO, i think an average of 12 for those would just take too long. what are other peoples ideas on the format???

 

[TimMc]

Events: You only need two competitors to warrant having an event
Competitions: 12 overall.

Tim.

 

[Rubixcubematt]

Events: You only need two competitors to warrant having an event
Competitions: 12 overall.

Tim.

ok, but atm you are the only one doing magic, if you have it fixed/get a new one. if someone else shows intrest in goin in the magic event/or you teach others on the day and let them use ur magic (only if you want to) then we're more than happy to have magic as an event. also (just an idea about judging/scrambling) i think that any experienced cubers (people who have been cubing for a while and understand a lot about it e.g. tim) has to help scramble/judge when they aren't cubing, so have one cuber per person, just make sure that the next person to cube isn't judging. that way, we won't have people being excluded from the comp/ puts less strain on others

 

[TimMc]

what are other peoples ideas on the format???

2x2x2 Best of 12
2x2x2 Average of 5

3x3x3 Best of 12
3x3x3 Average of 5

3x3x3OH Best of 5
3x3x3OH Average of 5

3x3x3BLD Best of 5

4x4x4 Best of 5
4x4x4 Average of 5

5x5x5 Best of 5
5x5x5 Average of 5

Magic Best of 20
Magic Average of 5

Required Scrambles:
2x2x2 = 17
3x3x3 = 32
4x4x4 = 10
5x5x5 = 10

To save on scrambles, is it normal to have the Average as a continuous subset of the Best Of event?
I.e. The last 5 scrambles in the 12 would be used as the average and any solve would be valid for Best Of.

As for the Magic, this event isn't really time consuming. It can be held whenever there's some free time. You could knock it out of the way during the 2x2x2.

EDIT:

The above was assuming that there was only one round. x.x
We'll need to also figure out how many rounds we want to have...

Tim.

 

[Rawn]

Wow, I can't believe there's so much organizing and planning involved in getting an unofficial tournament running. I can't imagine organizing an official comp......

 

[TimMc]

Wow, I can't believe there's so much organizing and planning involved in getting an unofficial tournament running. I can't imagine organizing an official comp......

It's just a series of really simple tasks. Most with dependencies... so practice will make perfect

Someone who currently hosts WCA events saying it's easy, just do this this and this, is analogous to telling a noncuber that solving a Rubik's Cube is easy.

Tim.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Don't you should go with more normal formats? There are pretty standard formats for most of those events, and I would think you'd want to go with the standard formats to get everyone used to what official competitions will be like.

Normal would be:
2x2x2, 3x3x3, 3x3x3 OH, 4x4x4, 5x5x5, Magic: average of 5
3x3x3 BLD: best of 3

Did I miss some reason for the odd formats?

Sorry - I know I'll never go to this, but I'm just fascinated watching the first cubing competition on your continent taking place. In a way, it's exciting.

 

[TimMc]

Don't you should go with more normal formats?
Did I miss some reason for the odd formats?

Yeah, we probably should.

No reason, just looking at possible formats.

@Magic: One string broke, so I can still solve it normally with no problems. Except now it's possible to do illegal moves (not that I need to). Hmm, Ninja can solve one - not sure about others though... I'll probably bring one anyway, even if it's not an event.

Tim.

 

[Faz]

Don't you should go with more normal formats?
Did I miss some reason for the odd formats?

Yeah, we probably should.

No reason, just looking at possible formats.

@Magic: One string broke, so I can still solve it normally with no problems. Except now it's possible to do illegal moves (not that I need to). Hmm, Ninja can solve one - not sure about others though... I'll probably bring one anyway, even if it's not an event.

Tim.

OK I'm back from holidays.

First off, all events are average 3/5 in case of DNF's. Except for bld obviously - best of 3.

Tim, you can get your colleague to print off:

5 x 2x2 scrambles
5 x 3x3 scrambles
3 x 3x3 bld scrambles
5 x 3x3 oh scrambles
5 x 4x4 scrambles
5 x 5x5 scrambles.

I will have another batch in case you forget them.

With the scrambling, we can just have 1 person scrambling all of them, but just make sure they dont look at their own cube or anyone elses.

Tim, who will read out results? Also, i will print off rego and comp sheets. we can announce the aus records for peoples information as well

Prizes are certificates, Maybe some prize for the winner of 3x3?

 

[Ton]

Wow, I can't believe there's so much organizing and planning involved in getting an unofficial tournament running. I can't imagine organizing an official comp......

Lol, I know....thats why Ron and me do this as team...Do you have so help? Need tips? Mail me or Ron

 

[TimMc]

With the scrambling, we can just have 1 person scrambling all of them, but just make sure they dont look at their own cube or anyone elses.

Tim, who will read out results? Also, i will print off rego and comp sheets. we can announce the aus records for peoples information as well

Prizes are certificates, Maybe some prize for the winner of 3x3?

Scrambling: The same scramble would be used for all cubes in one round wouldn't it? So someone will have to sit out for each event (i.e. each take a turn). I don't mind sitting out of the 5x5x5 and *maybe* the 4x4x4. ;-)

Anyone who can project their voice can read out the results. I don't mind, as long as I don't have a cold

Prizes: Maybe 2x2 3x3 4x4 5x5 sets of smooth tiles from cubesmith? Just one set for 1st place in each category (with 2x2 winner getting a 2x2 set etc).

Tim.