Maskow: 50 cubes multiblind attempts

[AvGalen]

I'm definitely the first real MBLD solver. It was my first main event, it was always my main event. I don't know anyone else who's main event is MBLD ^ _ ^ (tell me if I'm wrong)

I think you are wrong: https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/p.php?i=2006MOND01
He was really seriously practising big memo. I visited his house in Japan almost 5 years ago and he was practising a journey with a hundred pictures. It had taken him years to get to his level.
A year before that I had met Wicaksono Adi who was very quickly developing.
Both have stopped cubing a couple of years ago and never developed your speed of memo and execution, but they were very serious
http://www.mzrg.com/rubik/multi.shtml

 

[tseitsei]

I think you are wrong: https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/p.php?i=2006MOND01
He was really seriously practising big memo. I visited his house in Japan almost 5 years ago and he was practising a journey with a hundred pictures. It had taken him years to get to his level.
A year before that I had met Wicaksono Adi who was very quickly developing.
Both have stopped cubing a couple of years ago and never developed your speed of memo and execution, but they were very serious
http://www.mzrg.com/rubik/multi.shtml

I find it Hard to believe that 9/10 result takes years of practise...

 

[guysensei1]

I find it Hard to believe that 9/10 result takes years of practise...

Look at his multiBLD old results. They're good... Right?

 

[amostay2004]

One of the best BLD threads ever. Looking forward to that 50/50 sub-60

 

[tseitsei]

Look at his multiBLD old results. They're good... Right?

Yeah. I missed that but still the attempt was 6 hours so 50 cubes is not really that impressive... it's less than 10 cubes/hour. If someone would practise seriously for years I would expect them to be much better. No offense to anyone that's just what I think. For comparison: I did my first mbld attempt after Euros so less than 2 months ago and now I am already able to fit 17 cubes in an hour...

 

[JediJupiter]

Yeah. I missed that but still the attempt was 6 hours so 50 cubes is not really that impressive... it's less than 10 cubes/hour. If someone would practise seriously for years I would expect them to be much better. No offense to anyone that's just what I think. For comparison: I did my first mbld attempt after Euros so less than 2 months ago and now I am already able to fit 17 cubes in an hour...

It doesn't matter how good they got, it was a great achievement for them at the time and they dedicated a lot of time to it. He never said they were good, just that they also practised it seriously.

 

[Goosly]

The attempt was 6 hours so 50 cubes is not really that impressive... it's less than 10 cubes/hour.

50 cubes is not impressive? Not sure if serious or just trolling...

 

[Bindedsa]

50 cubes is not impressive? Not sure if serious or just trolling...

I really doubt he's trolling.

 

[tseitsei]

50 cubes is not impressive? Not sure if serious or just trolling...

I don't troll. I Never do.

50 cubes is alot but 6 hours is also a lot. I mean, do you find for example 13/13 mbld new style particurarly impressive? Because I don't. And 50 cubes in 6 hours is only 8.something cubes/hour. That really isn't much if you know what you are doing...

 

[Goosly]

I mean, do you find for example 13/13 mbld new style particurarly impressive? Because I don't.

I do.

 

[asierrayk]

First of all congratulations!!! I am pretty sure you can do it

I'm definitely the first real MBLD solver. It was my first main event, it was always my main event. I don't know anyone else who's main event is MBLD ^ _ ^ (tell me if I'm wrong)
But it doesn't mean I'm the last one. It's really easier than it look : PPP We only need more people interested in MBLD.
Thanks for that.

I am really interested in MBLD, and I would like to see some video of you giving tips. I know you have one in Polish but I dont understand it at all . Now im trying 13 cubes and my PB is only 10/11 ~50 mins

My youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/asierrayk

 

[tseitsei]

I do.

Ok. Then we kind of disagree here but that's ok.

Don't get me wrong tough. I think 13/13 (or even attempting 50 cubes old style) is quite good result but just not good or impressive if someone has REALLY practised SERIOUSLY for YEARS.

 

[Deathranger999]

Ok. Then we kind of disagree here but that's ok.

Don't get me wrong tough. I think 13/13 (or even attempting 50 cubes old style) is quite good result but just not good or impressive if someone has REALLY practised SERIOUSLY for YEARS.

Wait...you don't think years of practice and devotion makes something impressive? Or am I getting this wrong?

 

[tim]

I'm definitely the first real MBLD solver. It was my first main event, it was always my main event. I don't know anyone else who's main event is MBLD ^ _ ^ (tell me if I'm wrong)
But it doesn't mean I'm the last one. It's really easier than it look : PPP We only need more people interested in MBLD.

It was my main event as well.

Wait...you don't think years of practice and devotion makes something impressive? Or am I getting this wrong?

Devotion itself might be impressive, the result achieved through it isn't necessarily impressive though. I think that's what he's getting at.

 

[CyanSandwich]

I'll add myself to the list of people whose main event is MBLD.

 

[qqwref]

Keep in mind that when Mondo was doing multi there was little point in going super fast, it was all about doing as many cubes as possible. I don't think he ever really got fast at it but the number of cubes he was capable of was quite incredible for the time.

In 2007 he had 11/12 in competition, with the WR at the time being just 5/5 - unfortunately the rules at the time placed any N/N above any other result, so that didn't even win the competition. Then in 2008 he did 17/18 in competition, with the WR being 10/10, same problem. It's important to remember that these numbers of cubes were huge for the time, and Tim's 24/24 shocked many people, especially since 10/10 was the previous WR I don't think it's fair to compare Mondo's results to the standards of today when there is so much more competition in the event, and so much better results showing what is possible.

 

[CuberM]

I can't wait till you beat your WR

 

[tseitsei]

Wait...you don't think years of practice and devotion makes something impressive? Or am I getting this wrong?

That is correct. The post below already says what I think quite well.

Devotion itself might be impressive, the result achieved through it isn't necessarily impressive though. I think that's what he's getting at.

Keep in mind that when Mondo was doing multi there was little point in going super fast, it was all about doing as many cubes as possible. I don't think he ever really got fast at it but the number of cubes he was capable of was quite incredible for the time.

In 2007 he had 11/12 in competition, with the WR at the time being just 5/5 - unfortunately the rules at the time placed any N/N above any other result, so that didn't even win the competition. Then in 2008 he did 17/18 in competition, with the WR being 10/10, same problem. It's important to remember that these numbers of cubes were huge for the time, and Tim's 24/24 shocked many people, especially since 10/10 was the previous WR I don't think it's fair to compare Mondo's results to the standards of today when there is so much more competition in the event, and so much better results showing what is possible.

Ok, 17/18 is starting to be somewhat impressive, but still if someone practises for years seriously I am quite sure he (or she) could do much better.

The point that multibld wasn't nearly as developed back then as it is today is actually a good one and I don't really know that much about the "old times" to comment on that topic

 

[Ollie]

That is correct. The post below already says what I think quite well.





Ok, 17/18 is starting to be somewhat impressive, but still if someone practises for years seriously I am quite sure he (or she) could do much better.

The point that multibld wasn't nearly as developed back then as it is today is actually a good one and I don't really know that much about the "old times" to comment on that topic

I could go as far as to say that anything below 20 points isn't that impressive anymore (I'm not even that impressed with my own 25/27) since Maskow has shown that attempts in the 25 point region are possible with more basic methods. 100% attempts are the most impressive for me, nowadays, but only Maskow and Grzegorz's official times are really impressive at the moment.

 

[Maskow]

I added 6th attempt. It was a good attempt ^ _ ^

I think you are wrong: https://www.worldcubeassociation.org/results/p.php?i=2006MOND01
He was really seriously practising big memo. I visited his house in Japan almost 5 years ago and he was practising a journey with a hundred pictures. It had taken him years to get to his level.
A year before that I had met Wicaksono Adi who was very quickly developing.
Both have stopped cubing a couple of years ago and never developed your speed of memo and execution, but they were very serious
http://www.mzrg.com/rubik/multi.shtml

Of course I know them. But I don't believe that they really was that serious. It was not-much-time-involving hobby for them I guess. For me it was always something more. I always calculated everything, checked what can I do better, faster, improve every aspect of my multi. The diet, physical sport for better concentration, 30 pills per day for better memory. Seconds are important. I remember times when I practiced MBLD 1 hour attempt 2 times per day everyday. I was half-professional, it was my JOB : P But my own stupidity and two addictions stopped me for over one year. My dream always was to be true 100% professional speedcuber and practice MBLD in professional conditions. Now I'm back and I really believe it will be possible in near future (sponsors, sposnsors, sponsors, of course it's not that easy). I have ideas how to improve MBLD to the much higher level but it will need months or even years of full days practice. It's serious business for me, this is why nobody is even close to me This is why I don't have time for 4x4 and 5x5.

Of course I respect them. They were my idols when I started. Then I became faster than they after 5 months, from zero, using old pochmann method only : P Maybe this is the reason why I just forgot them easily.

I am really interested in MBLD, and I would like to see some video of you giving tips. I know you have one in Polish but I dont understand it at all . Now im trying 13 cubes and my PB is only 10/11 ~50 mins

I'm glad to read that. Maybe it will be a good idea to share my MBLD experience with all of you and help you avoid all the mistakes I did in the past. It will be very nice to see more people doing 30 or even 40+ cubes official : P [and believe me or not: it's not that hard and you don't need to devote all your life for it, I wasted a lot of time]