Making A New Speedcubing Method

[Michael Wimberly]

I think it would be more efficient to use EO right after the temporary cross, then you can get a cross case on the last layer and solve it using Pseudo-OLL, as I like to call it, you just assume that the white and yellow pieces are the same colour. Now you can just use M and S moves to orient and solve the last 8 edges in their correct place, and we can invent algs for that

Sounds good. I haven’t really thought about EO yet, as I don’t know how to do it.

 

[Caleb Valenzuela]

Sounds good. I haven’t really thought about EO yet, as I don’t know how to do it.

try learning ZZ or any method that uses EO as part of the method and try to implement it into your method

 

[CrossPetrus]

Sounds good. I haven’t really thought about EO yet, as I don’t know how to do it.

I’d say go to zzmethod.com, they have a pretty good tutorial (though it doesn’t really go over a quick way to inspect eo). Phil Yu algo has great eoline videos from like 10 years ago. Trying ZZ would definitely be a good way get eo on your radar, as it has many uses in methods (especially modern ones). You could try doing a pseudo-eocross then do f2l, and finish with the algset you’ll use for ll+fixing cross.

 

[Michael Wimberly]

try learning ZZ or any method that uses EO as part of the method and try to implement it into your method

I’d say go to zzmethod.com, they have a pretty good tutorial (though it doesn’t really go over a quick way to inspect eo). Phil Yu algo has great eoline videos from like 10 years ago. Trying ZZ would definitely be a good way get eo on your radar, as it has many uses in methods (especially modern ones). You could try doing a pseudo-eocross then do f2l, and finish with the algset you’ll use for ll+fixing cross.

I'll probably do this. My schedule just got cleaned up and I have quite a bit of time to learn eo.

 

[Nitrophenol]

Yes. EO would be especially efficient for the last layer cases and orienting the edges because doing that with flipped edges is a pain.

 

[Michael Wimberly]

I’d say go to zzmethod.com, they have a pretty good tutorial (though it doesn’t really go over a quick way to inspect eo). Phil Yu algo has great eoline videos from like 10 years ago. Trying ZZ would definitely be a good way get eo on your radar, as it has many uses in methods (especially modern ones). You could try doing a pseudo-eocross then do f2l, and finish with the algset you’ll use for ll+fixing cross.

just want to comment to say, the zzmethod.com tutorial is really good.(I have read other tutorials that were pretty vague, I’m starting to understand it now.)

 

[Nitrophenol]

For EO, the only concept that you need to understand is the difference between bad and good edges; it's pretty easy once you understand what it does. Implementing EO to the method would also make the average move count of the method go down, as there aren't any dot cases.

 

[pTr]

Mwah, I think this method more now...

 

[Michael Wimberly]

Mwah, I think this method more now...

This started out as something to do in my free time. I'm much more dedicated to this now, did not expect this to happen (wouldn't have if I had never made this thread...).

 

[Nitrophenol]

So I came up with a variant of the method that contains some elements of ZZ, ROUX, CFOP, and PFCL, that being EO, F2L pairs, M-slice abusing, and Pseudo Cross. So unlike the FIRST variant of the method, we start by doing EO. Then, we make the Pseudo Cross, and fixing the cross will have lower move count than the first variant of the method, because the edges are oriented. Now, we can do ZZ block building F2L, a pretty fluent F2L with lower move count, as you don't constantly need to do R and R' moves. Then, we get Pseudo COLL(that's what I like to call it), then we can use Roux and do last 8 edges, which involves s moves, and it is likely expected to double the number of moves that is required to do LSE in Roux. If you want to do LSE in PFCL, you can just solve the same color edges that are opposites, but that's basically the same thing as doing EO Roux.

 

[Michael Wimberly]

So I came up with a variant of the method that contains some elements of ZZ, ROUX, CFOP, and PFCL, that being EO, F2L pairs, M-slice abusing, and Pseudo Cross. So unlike the FIRST variant of the method, we start by doing EO. Then, we make the Pseudo Cross, and fixing the cross will have lower move count than the first variant of the method, because the edges are oriented. Now, we can do ZZ block building F2L, a pretty fluent F2L with lower move count, as you don't constantly need to do R and R' moves. Then, we get Pseudo COLL(that's what I like to call it), then we can use Roux and do last 8 edges, which involves s moves, and it is likely expected to double the number of moves that is required to do LSE in Roux. If you want to do LSE in PFCL, you can just solve the same color edges that are opposites, but that's basically the same thing as doing EO Roux.

So this sounds cool, but what is PFCL?

 

[Twisted101]

So this sounds cool, but what is PFCL?

Bro you named it PFCL

 

[Michael Wimberly]

Bro you named it PFCL

Oh shoot completely forgot, i'm slow