Magnets Discussion and Help thread

[DMCubing]

The N35's are a little weak, however I do prefer a slightly weaker magnet to the snap of a stronger one.

35s in a GTS V1 are fairly weak. N48s work nicely. And they feel a little more subtle in a black cube than they do in the primary plastic of an Illusion.

 

[phreaker]

I will have to check into that. The new, clear Gorilla glue (not superglue) is great as a temporary adhesive. It's sticks well, but it is a bit rubbery and is extremely easy to remove from the cubie piece plastic, and then removes from the magnets easily too. Yet, it is still strong enough that you could probably use the cube with it anyway.

I used it for my Valk M, and GTS2M. My GTS2M is my current OH main, and my Valk M is my 2H/BLD main.

My technique is a bit simple, I put a bit on the bottom of the magnet, then put the magnet into position, which may smear the blu-tack a bit.

But overall, the blu-tack works well and holds well. I've dropped my Valk M onto concrete from hands level. (~3.5-4 feet for me) and it's fine. People seem all worried about the cube holding up... it is fine.

I need to find out what the current recommended magnet set for a Wuque is, and order up some. I'm getting into 4x4, and really enjoying it... and magnets do make everything better (Suggestions taken, gladly!)

 

[newtonbase]

Actually, aligning the edge piece to the center is very easy. It is just the process of gluing the blasted thing that's kind of a pain.

As for performance, I asked Chris Tran about this, and he said that there are advantages to doing a cube this way. Particularly with the M slices, how the weight and force of the magnets is more centrally located and has the potential for smoother middle slices.

Roux or M2 maybe. I'll have to try one.

 

[CornerCutter]

What would be the best magnets for a Chewen 2x2? I'm planning on getting one and making it magnetic.

 

[Underwatercuber]

What do you think would be the best way to magnetize a Rubik's clock?

 

[supercavitation]

For the first time since I started magnetizing cubes (Back in October), tomorrow, at Nova Cube 2017, I will be using a magnetic cube for every event (3x3,4x4,6x6,7x7,OH, 3BLD).

 

[newtonbase]

What do you think would be the best way to magnetize a Rubik's clock?

I think a magnetic clock would be fantastic but it should be designed from scratch

For the first time since I started magnetizing cubes (Back in October), tomorrow, at Nova Cube 2017, I will be using a magnetic cube for every event (3x3,4x4,6x6,7x7,OH, 3BLD).

Good luck. I'm using magnetic only at the World Championships but then I'm only doing two events and I don't even like my pyraminx.

 

[DMCubing]

Roux or M2 maybe. I'll have to try one.

Center magnetized GTS2. Magnets (N52 4x2) too weak for distance between magnets. Here it is, corners removed, and the magnetic layout.

 

[Parity Cuber]

Center magnetized GTS2. Magnets (N52 4x2) too weak for distance between magnets. Here it is, corners removed, and the magnetic layout.

Hey DM, will N50's work for a GTS2?

 

[DMCubing]

Hey DM, will N50's work for a GTS2?

Not if they're real ones unless you like a very pronounced magnetic feel. But, there seem to be a lot of weaker (perhaps N35s) N50s that people have been buying off eBay and elsewhere, and those can be used in cubes like the GTS2, Air, and Valk. But a true N50 would be very strong.

I've used N35, N38, and N42. 42 is the highest I'd ever go if you like a pronounced magnetic feel. The N38 feel perfect and if you like a lighter more subtle feel, the N35s are great.

 

[Parity Cuber]

Not if they're real ones unless you like a very pronounced magnetic feel. But, there seem to be a lot of weaker (perhaps N35s) N50s that people have been buying off eBay and elsewhere, and those can be used in cubes like the GTS2, Air, and Valk. But a true N50 would be very strong.

I've used N35, N38, and N42. 42 is the highest I'd ever go if you like a pronounced magnetic feel. The N38 feel perfect and if you like a lighter more subtle feel, the N35s are great.

I bought them from SCS. I currently have a magnetic Fangshi and I used N35's on it. I can't even feel the magnets, and the plastic isn't that thick. I think I'll try to get some N38's. Where would you recommend buying them?

 

[DMCubing]

I bought them from SCS. I currently have a magnetic Fangshi and I used N35's on it. I can't even feel the magnets, and the plastic isn't that thick. I think I'll try to get some N38's. Where would you recommend buying them?

Definitely gaussboys.com ! He knows about us cubers!!! I recommend calling. Ask for Dave and tell him I sent you! Seriously though, I've bought magnets from just about every available source and his are the highest quality! He's also going to start carrying N35s and N50s for us cubers!!!

 

[Parity Cuber]

Definitely gaussboys.com ! He knows about us cubers!!! I recommend calling. Ask for Dave and tell him I sent you! Seriously though, I've bought magnets from just about every available source and his are the highest quality! He's also going to start carrying N35s and N50s for us cubers!!!

Alright! I will! Thanks for your help!

 

[Parity Cuber]

I bought them from SCS. I currently have a magnetic Fangshi and I used N35's on it. I can't even feel the magnets, and the plastic isn't that thick. I think I'll try to get some N38's. Where would you recommend buying them?

Just ordered them!

 

[mitja]

https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/...rick-to-fix-m-slices-in-magnetic-cubes.64033/
I gave this idea some thought. I think it makes sense. That's one of the reasons why my wuque M is so well balanced, better then 3x3's. I have made far simpler sollution: instead of gluing washers, I inserted 3 magnets into each centerpiece, no need for glue. That balances for 12 magnets difference between outer and inner layers. I think this difference is more noticable on lighter cubes, and bigger-heavier magnets. This works well for test, and if you don't like the added magnets weight, you can just remove the magnets. Anybody gave this a thought?

 

[IamSpeedcubing]

Hi! I want to make a magnetic wuque, but do not know what magnet size and grade to use, as well as how to place them. My friend wants me to magnetise his qiyi cavs, but I have the same issue with that. What would you reccomend

 

[IamSpeedcubing]

Oh, well how am I supposed to know what grade I should use in a cube I never had any experience with? I do not want to waste a perfectly good $22 cube, glue and magnets because they were too strong or weak. I have some experience with 3x3's, but none with higher order puzzles, or with 2x2's that I have never used, so I think my question was actually fairly valid as opposed to yours, unless you have an index of cube plastic thicknesses in your mind. In addition, this is kind of the purpose of this thread.

 

[mitja]

I magnetised my first 4x4 juxin blue stickerless yesterday. I used inner N45 4x1mm for inner slice and N454x1,5mm for the 3x3 part. I believe it turns out amazing. Can hardly wait to do it on my Wuque. It is very hard to get 4mm in the narrow edge place, but can be pushed in and after glueing it holds even better. I can see that inner slice has stronger attraction comparing to outer slice. But I think not too much for me. It is great, because it helps 3x3 part really to be stable, fast and smooth. I have a feeling that, if you try to insert 50% weaker inner magnets to balance the attraction ,you don't get such a nice 3x3 part. Also, it is great that inner slices stay together for H or Z pll. If someone likes to spin single inner slices a lot, then I would reccomend weaker inner magnets. That means: calculate 50% weaker inner magnets.
After i tried this magnetic 4x4, I understand this new 4x4 records that come from everywhere. The cube feels easy like 3x3.

This was my experience, wuque is even easier, also changed the springs on Wuque with thunderclap and added 2 washers to make it longer. The qube gets amazing.

 

[IamSpeedcubing]

This was my experience, wuque is even easier, also changed the springs on Wuque with thunderclap and added 2 washers to make it longer. The qube gets amazing.

Ah, cool, this made a lot of things clearer. What about the polarity during parity?

 

[mitja]

You put your magnets in one long column. Mark one side with piece of paper bitween magnets. Then use the magnets always from the same end. That way the polarity stays ok. Check some DMCubing videos on YT. You can make a helper magnet, it means make the first corner part or edge part and keep using the same for all. But, you don't need it as long as you use the same end of the magnets.