[NAR] Lucas Etter - 7.52 3x3x3 Official Average

[Please Dont Ask]

Why the next Feliks? Can't he stay hisself?
Not kidding, what in. Lucs gets world champions would we say "the next next feliks"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhCk57UmE6o
check out this

 

[CriticalCubing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhCk57UmE6o
check out this

Agree. Everyone is Unique so we are the first we and not next someone Nice share but I watch this on TV all the time!

 

[ryanj92]

sigh, yet another problem caused by scramblers not verifying that they've scrambled the cube correctly...

 

[~Adam~]

Sigh, yet another problem caused because video footage was uploaded.
Maybe a reg change before people stop uploading footage?

 

[goodatthis]

I don't see how scrambling orientation has that much of a bearing on the solve. People with different color schemes (I.e. black as white) have their cubes scrambled in a different orientation than others, yet black and white are still functionally the same thing, so people who start their cross on white would also start their cross on black. Yet they get a scramble from a different orientation anyway, so the scramble other people are getting on white is not what this person would be getting on black.

 

[~Adam~]

[NAR] Lucas Etter - 7.52 3x3x3 Official Average

People with different color schemes (I.e. black as white) have their cubes scrambled in a different orientation than others, yet black and white are still functionally the same thing, so people who start their cross on white would also start their cross on black. Yet they get a scramble from a different orientation anyway, so the scramble other people are getting on white is not what this person would be getting on black.

That is what is supposed to happen. I know that it doesn't always and I dread to think how many of my solves would be DNFed if I uploaded video footage. As an opposite neutral solver (black and yellow) it literally makes no difference to my times if the scramblers mess up but it happens even with experienced scramblers.

 

[SolveThatCube]

If something isn't your fault it doesn't mean you never should be penalised for the mistake.

This. It seems like the delegate just lets anyone scramble. Don't they check that they know what there doing? I understand delegating is a hard job, but these scramblers are costing people records.

I don't see how scrambling orientation has that much of a bearing on the solve. People with different color schemes (I.e. black as white) have their cubes scrambled in a different orientation than others, yet black and white are still functionally the same thing, so people who start their cross on white would also start their cross on black. Yet they get a scramble from a different orientation anyway, so the scramble other people are getting on white is not what this person would be getting on black.

This too.

 

[~Adam~]

[NAR] Lucas Etter - 7.52 3x3x3 Official Average

It seems like the delegate just lets anyone scramble.

Have you ever tried to find scramblers for later rounds when almost everyone who is out of the event has left the venue? Also experienced scramblers make mistakes as well.

 

[goodatthis]

Honestly, Lucas, if I were you, take down the video until the controversy passes, then re-upload it once this has been resolved.

 

[ryanj92]

I don't see how scrambling orientation has that much of a bearing on the solve. People with different color schemes (I.e. black as white) have their cubes scrambled in a different orientation than others, yet black and white are still functionally the same thing, so people who start their cross on white would also start their cross on black. Yet they get a scramble from a different orientation anyway, so the scramble other people are getting on white is not what this person would be getting on black.

Let me give you a example that illustrates the point:
At my most recent competition, one of the 3x3x3 scrambles had a 2 move green cross. Had the scramble been performed in the wrong orientation, I could have been given a scramble which had a 2 move white or yellow cross. Had this happened, I would have been given an advantage, as I am better at solving with white and yellow cross than green cross.

Scrambling from the wrong orientation is nothing less than a mis-scramble, and should be treated as such.

Spoiler

I agree you should take the video down though, Lucas

 

[goodatthis]

Let me give you a example that illustrates the point:
At my most recent competition, one of the 3x3x3 scrambles had a 2 move green cross. Had the scramble been performed in the wrong orientation, I could have been given a scramble which had a 2 move white or yellow cross. Had this happened, I would have been given an advantage, as I am better at solving with white and yellow cross than green cross.

Scrambling from the wrong orientation is nothing less than a mis-scramble, and should be treated as such.

Spoiler

I agree you should take the video down though, Lucas

Actually you do have a point here, scrambling orientation does have an effect on the solve. I shouldn't have said that it doesn't. But, if you were given word that the 2 move cross was on a specific color, you could switch out your cube for one with black instead of white, and then get that cross on the color you solve on. So some people who are not color neutral could have an advantage of having different crosses on colors they solve on if they have different stickers.

 

[Kirjava]

But, if you were given word that the 2 move cross was on a specific color, you could switch out your cube for one with black instead of white

This is against the rules.