LHC didn't kill us yet

[JBCM627]

I don't get why people care about all of this stupid space crap!1! Why can't people use all of that time and money to do something that we need, like cancer research and stuff like that!? These kinds of people make me so freaken mad!!!

I completely agree. Why research subatomic physics, which provides us with better computers, which provides us with the ability to conduct most research in biology at all?

 

[hawkmp4]

I don't get why people care about all of this stupid space crap!1! Why can't people use all of that time and money to do something that we need, like cancer research and stuff like that!? These kinds of people make me so freaken mad!!!

Because these people are physicists and chemists, not cancer researchers, maybe?

 

[crabs!!!]

I don't get why people care about all of this stupid space crap!1! Why can't people use all of that time and money to do something that we need, like cancer research and stuff like that!? These kinds of people make me so freaken mad!!!

Cancer is insignificant compared to discovering more about the universe.

 

[Guoguodi]

There's actually a live webcam stream from the LHC (don't know what you'd watch it for, though).

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

 

[Swoncen]

I don't care if we die.. I like it when people say that the earth is exploding or something because then my girlfriend says: "Come let's make sex the last time before we die!".

ahahahaha.. NICE!!

 

[CAT13]

You people don't seem to like my opinions

 

[cpt.Justice]

CAT13...
What they are doing at Cern is basic research. They don't know exactly what results to expect, but that doesn't make it useless.

 

[brunson]

i also admit that i have not done much research on the subject, and i also do not know much abotu astrophysics. maybe we should ask tyson, he got a degree in astrophysics from Caltech, he might know a little on the subject.

These don't involve much astrophysics, they mostly entail quantum mechanics.

Educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole

 

[DavidWoner]

i also admit that i have not done much research on the subject, and i also do not know much abotu astrophysics. maybe we should ask tyson, he got a degree in astrophysics from Caltech, he might know a little on the subject.

These don't involve much astrophysics, they mostly entail quantum mechanics.

Educate yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole

that was an interesting read. thank you, now i know a little bit about micro black holes.

 

[Carson]

There's actually a live webcam stream from the LHC (don't know what you'd watch it for, though).

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

Very Interesting Page

 

[CAT13]

Here we go, people. This is basically what I mean.
What is wrong with the world today that requires us to spend so much money on a thing like this, and not donate it to the poor starving children in Africa?

 

[tim]

Here we go, people. This is basically what I mean.
What is wrong with the world today that requires us to spend so much money on a thing like this, and not donate it to the poor starving children in Africa?

It needs more than just money to help the "poor starving children in Africa".

 

[fanwuq]

Here we go, people. This is basically what I mean.
What is wrong with the world today that requires us to spend so much money on a thing like this, and not donate it to the poor starving children in Africa?

You are too simple minded. The world doesn't just work that way. It's like, why don't we just print more money?!:rolleyes:
INFLATION

For this problem:
There needs to be technological advanced to make the production possibility curve larger. So more things can be produced to enlarge the economy. I suppose it also makes sense to help the Africans so we can trade with them to increase profits. But there should be some sort of logical explanation why we aren't just giving everything away to help the Africans.
We have some debate in English class a few days ago about what is objective and subjective. One of the arguments was that we actually research about biology so much. In order to be purely objective, we should just study space dust because that's the most abundant thing in the universe.
People will always want to study what they want to study, so let them!
Why do you waste money on cubes and good food? Why don't you just never have fun and only eat canned foods and donate everything else to the Africans?

 

[Kurzeja]

Of course the LHC hasn't killed us.
Thats not until 2012.

 

[CAT13]

Why do you waste money on cubes and good food? Why don't you just never have fun and only eat canned foods and donate everything else to the Africans?

I've spent maybe $150 on cubes at most. I would have to say that 5.3 billion dollars is nowhere close to 150 dollars.
Food doesn't cost anywhere near 5.3 billion dollars, either
What does fun have to do with eating only canned foods?

Whatever. I just think that researching stars and stupid stuff like that will never get us anywhere. Just go through life happily. One day maybe a big fat meteor will come and kill us all. So be it.

 

[Bounb]

I think that NASA needs to stop wasting their dang money and DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!!!!!
There is no point in researching space and everything out in space. If there is any other life supporting planet, we already know that it is NOT in our solar system. It will take us years after years to get there. Centuries and centuries there is no freaken point. "Oh lets go jump on the moon and see if there are any rocks up their. Maybe there used to be life there..." WHO CARES!?!? Focus on your own planet

I don't get why people care about all of this stupid space crap!1! Why can't people use all of that time and money to do something that we need, like cancer research and stuff like that!? These kinds of people make me so freaken mad!!!

"WHY WUD A SIENTISTS RISCK A BLAK HOLE FOR AN STUPID EXPERMENT WHO CARSE!!1! WAT A WAST OF MONIES"

It's people like you that make me so "freaken" mad. Once again you display your scientific ignorance.

This research is absolutely fundamental.
The LHC is the greatest scientific endeavour in history. The questions it will answer are so basic, yet so burning. The current accepted model of particle physics is called the standard model. This has basically passed every test so far and is fairly robust. But really, there are many things we can't explain about it. And there are many questions to be answered. Why does the universe expand? Are there multiple universes? What is the nature of dark matter and dark energy? What if our current model is totally wrong? These are just a few. Essentially the LHC is a big microscope and a sort of time machine. It allows us to revisit the first few moments of the creation of the universe when it was just fundamental particles. The LHC hopes to find the Higgs Boson which has been so long elusive yet so crucial to our basic understanding of why we are here. It will help us explain what it is that "makes stuff, stuff".

This research is inherently expensive.
5,6,7 billion dollars or so? Yes. It is a fair bit of money, but keep in mind that the world's GDP in 2007 was estimated at 54,620,000 million USD. This thing is a beast. It uses a hell of a lot of energy. The tunnel is very long. The controls are state of the art. The protons must be accelerated to 99.9% of the speed of light (that's fast, if you didn't know). It produces a raw data stream of 300gb/sec which is stored in a distributed grid. It's a massive undertaking, but it is well worth the time.

This may pave the way to totally unexpected technology.
Tim Berners-Lee was working at CERN when he developed the idea of the World Wide Web, proposed as a way of researchers to share data. A good deal of money has been spent on the the LHC Computing Grid. This helps analyse, store, and collate all the data by combining processing power from thousands of computers and utilising private optical fibre and existing high speed internet. It is very possible that it will pave the way towards a future, faster internet.

There is no risk of a dangerous black hole or stranglets or giant purple buffalo being produced.
Big machines may be scary but it doesn't mean that they are harmful just because some crank heard about it and the media spun it into a good yarn.

You should be interested and supportive of this project.

 

[kickinwing2112]

There is no risk because the annihilation of anti matter is devistating but it doesn't creat black holes. It is a controled experiment so they will not come in contact with any matter and will not react. Hopefully this reaseach will eventually lead to efficent alternative fuels.

 

[CAT13]

I think that NASA needs to stop wasting their dang money and DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE!!!!!
There is no point in researching space and everything out in space. If there is any other life supporting planet, we already know that it is NOT in our solar system. It will take us years after years to get there. Centuries and centuries there is no freaken point. "Oh lets go jump on the moon and see if there are any rocks up their. Maybe there used to be life there..." WHO CARES!?!? Focus on your own planet

I don't get why people care about all of this stupid space crap!1! Why can't people use all of that time and money to do something that we need, like cancer research and stuff like that!? These kinds of people make me so freaken mad!!!

"WHY WUD A SIENTISTS RISCK A BLAK HOLE FOR AN STUPID EXPERMENT WHO CARSE!!1! WAT A WAST OF MONIES"

It's people like you that make me so "freaken" mad. Once again you display your scientific ignorance.

This research is absolutely fundamental.
The LHC is the greatest scientific endeavour in history. The questions it will answer are so basic, yet so burning. The current accepted model of particle physics is called the standard model. This has basically passed every test so far and is fairly robust. But really, there are many things we can't explain about it. And there are many questions to be answered. Why does the universe expand? Are there multiple universes? What is the nature of dark matter and dark energy? What if our current model is totally wrong? These are just a few. Essentially the LHC is a big microscope and a sort of time machine. It allows us to revisit the first few moments of the creation of the universe when it was just fundamental particles. The LHC hopes to find the Higgs Boson which has been so long elusive yet so crucial to our basic understanding of why we are here. It will help us explain what it is that "makes stuff, stuff".

This research is inherently expensive.
5,6,7 billion dollars or so? Yes. It is a fair bit of money. This thing is a beast. It uses a hell of a lot of energy. The tunnel is very long. The controls are state of the art. The protons must be accelerated to 99.9% of the speed of light (that's fast, if you didn't know). It produces a raw data stream of 300gb/sec which is stored in a distributed grid. It's a massive undertaking, but it is well worth the time.

This may pave the way to totally unexpected technology.
Tim Berners-Lee was working at CERN when he developed the idea of the World Wide Web, proposed as a way of researchers to share data. A good deal of money has been spent on the the LHC Computing Grid. This helps analyse, store, and collate all the data by combining processing power from thousands of computers and utilising private optical fibre and existing high speed internet. It is very possible that it will pave the way towards a future, faster internet.

There is no risk of a dangerous black hole or stranglets or giant purple buffalo being produced.
Big machines may be scary but it doesn't mean that they are harmful just because some crank heard about it and the media spun it into a good yarn.

You should be interested and supportive of this project.

I hope that that post was entertaining to write, because I'm not going to read it all.
And I never said "WHY WUD A SIENTISTS RISCK A BLAK HOLE FOR AN STUPID EXPERMENT WHO CARSE!!1! WAT A WAST OF MONIES" using that spelling and uppercase and stuff. but I did accidentally put a 1 in there
this is going to be my last post in this thread and the last time I look in here so just forget that I ever said anything. Or just pretend like you forget or something.
And as I said before, I just have a different opinion than everyone else. And I don't really see what is wrong with that
And I don't think I said anything about "RISCK A BLAK HOLE"

 

[hawkmp4]

Nah nah nah nah nah, nah, I'm not listening!

...
Ok, so maybe I paraphrased.

 

[Dene]

And as I said before, I just have a different opinion than everyone else. And I don't really see what is wrong with that

Because your opinion is stupid?

What I say is this: The experiment is fun, I'm sure (honestly, I'd love to be there!) However I think the money would be better spent developing a faster computer. Once we have a computer faster than a human brain, experiments will become pointless, the computer can solve all our problems!