Is AIDS a disease?

[PEZenfuego]

Okay, here is the problem:

I'm having an argument with a friend (not serious) about AIDS. I think that it is not a disease, but he is firm in the belief that it is.

My premise is that diseases MUST have characteristic symptoms and AIDS does not.

His premise is that syndrome=disease.

Acquired Immunodeficiency syndrome



Now, what do you think?

PLEASE use sources.

 

[shicklegroober]

AIDS is the result of a disease, so I think it could be argued either way

 

[MTGjumper]

Wikipedia says that AIDs is a disease, therefore AIDs is not a disease.

 

[El Veintitres]

Wikipedia says that AIDs is a disease, therefore AIDs is not a disease.

Disagree, Wikipedia is the best.

On the more serious topic, no AIDS is not a disease, it is the condition that results from the virus HIV.

 

[puzzlemaster]

Wikipedia says that AIDs is a disease, therefore AIDs is not a disease.

Disagree, Wikipedia is the best.

On the more serious topic, no AIDS is not a disease, it is the condition that results from the virus HIV.

Agreed.

 

[Ethan Rosen]

AIDS is obviously caused by not accepting Jesus into a person's life, therefore it isn't a disease, it's a disorder.

 

[ConnorCuber]

AIDS is obviously caused by not accepting Jesus into a person's life, therefore it isn't a disease, it's a disorder.

But SUPER AIDS is a whole different story....

 

[Muesli]

HIV and AIDS are completely different things, although AIDS develops from HIV. You could argue that AIDS is a condition caused by the HIV virus, but then Cholera is a condition caused by the Cholera bacteria.

This leads you to wonder wether diseases like Parkinsons are really diseases, or just conditions caused by certain factors.

tl;dr: Disease is such a broad term. It really isn't accurate enough a definition to argue either way.

 

[elcarc]

isnt aids an std (sexually transmitted disease)
i could be wrong though

 

[mcciff2112]

I think this has to do with the way you look at it. IMO, a disease is something that causes someone to be sick, permanently or temporarily, mentally or physically. So I would say yes. But this is just my view. Others may look at the word "disease" in a different way.

 

[puzzlemaster]

isnt aids an std (sexually transmitted disease)
i could be wrong though

HIV is an STD. However it has been renamed an STI standing for a Sexually Transmitted Infection. AIDS can result from the HIV virus however AIDS itself is not an STD/STI.

 

[Lorenzo]

Wikipedia says that AIDs is a disease, therefore AIDs is not a disease.

Disagree, Wikipedia is the best.

On the more serious topic, no AIDS is not a disease, it is the condition that results from the virus HIV.

On Wikipedia, anyone can just make an account and change whatever information they want. Don't rely on it too much. But if you already knew that, then ok.

 

[Kian]

isnt aids an std (sexually transmitted disease)
i could be wrong though

HIV is an STD. However it has been renamed an STI standing for a Sexually Transmitted Infection. AIDS can result from the HIV virus however AIDS itself is not an STD/STI.

I don't think you understand the difference between an STD and an STI. While the two are basically interchangeable, you may consider someone to have an STI if they are a carrier but do not show signs of disease. It wasn't changed because it can be both (depending on different stages and the like).

On Topic- AIDS is certainly a disease. A disease is basically anything that inhibits normal body functions with some pretty basic exceptions, of course. HIV is the cause for the disease, like the H1N1 virus is the cause for "Swine Flu", or anything else. I'd suggest some light reading on what a "disease" is if you'd like to understand further but it's really quite obvious that AIDS is a disease.

 

[DAE_JA_VOO]

AIDS is obviously caused by not accepting Jesus into a person's life, therefore it isn't a disease, it's a disorder.

This kind of joke is REALLY uncalled for. Have some respect for people on this forum who ARE Christians.

 

[rahulkadukar]

AIDS is a condition caused by HIV where your body is defenceless. Theoretically you could develop AIDS even without HIV

 

[Escher]

AIDS is obviously caused by not accepting Jesus into a person's life, therefore it isn't a disease, it's a disorder.

This kind of joke is REALLY uncalled for. Have some respect for people on this forum who ARE Christians.

I'm not Christian, but I thought that it was just a parody of a ridiculous view that some hold and then try to back up using their religion. It's no parody of the religion itself (which clearly teaches acceptance etc etc).

 

[Tyson]

AIDS is obviously caused by not accepting Jesus into a person's life, therefore it isn't a disease, it's a disorder.

This kind of joke is REALLY uncalled for. Have some respect for people on this forum who ARE Christians.

I find it uncalled for that you insult his Christianity by telling him to have respect for people who are Christians. There's nothing in the Bible about AIDS. Leviticus 18:22 says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." As AIDS is easily transmitted through homosexual intercourse, it is completely reasonable, if you believe in the bible and in Christianity, that god created AIDS as a way to punish homosexuals for their sins.

It's like how women who use epidural anesthesia are also sinning and going against god. The Bible says that a woman's pain during childbirth is punishment for Eve's original sin. For a woman not to feel pain during childbirth is going against god's wishes.

 

[elcarc]

AIDS is obviously caused by not accepting Jesus into a person's life, therefore it isn't a disease, it's a disorder.

This kind of joke is REALLY uncalled for. Have some respect for people on this forum who ARE Christians.

I find it uncalled for that you insult his Christianity by telling him to have respect for people who are Christians. There's nothing in the Bible about AIDS. Leviticus 18:22 says "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." As AIDS is easily transmitted through homosexual intercourse, it is completely reasonable, if you believe in the bible and in Christianity, that god created AIDS as a way to punish homosexuals for their sins.

It's like how women who use epidural anesthesia are also sinning and going against god. The Bible says that a woman's pain during childbirth is punishment for Eve's original sin. For a woman not to feel pain during childbirth is going against god's wishes.

almost the same way you have to care and pay attention to crops. its bassicly punishment for sin

 

[Tyson]

Speaking of which, you should probably burn all your clothes that are polyester nylon blends. I'm pretty sure god wants everyone's clothes to be of only one material.

"Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together." -- Deuteronomy 22:11

This statement is pretty clear. If you go through and read all of Deuteronomy in context, it doesn't change the meaning of this verse. Bon fire anyone?

Wait wait wait... Ethan is totally right! If you get AIDS, it's your own fault!

"If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee." -- Exodus 15:26

Right there, it says that if you get AIDS, it means that you are not right with Jesus.

 

[brunson]

Be careful, there are a lot of people here that don't get subtlety and sarcasm. What's that principle that states it's impossible to differentiate between a fundamentalist and someone mocking fundamentalism?