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Investigation results regarding unsportsmanlike behaviour

Ah, thank you for the information.

That sounds very ambitious of him, if CCA does come to fruition, I wonder how relationships between WCA and CCA would go.
As well as the issue of records.


Very very fascinating!
 
I highly doubt CCA records would be acknowledged by the WCA. Although, I suppose they could run a CCA comp, and have it WCA official.

No. The WCA should not interact with anything associated with CCA.
 
Obviously the only possible explanation is he's on steroids. :rolleyes:

That's kind of a bummer. I want to give away most these cubes he gave to me even faster now.

It also makes me want to get better at blind really fast so I can beat his record and see how he reacts.

But that's not going to happen.


Oh no offense Hai Yan, if you're reading this. Which you probably are, last activity being 26 minutes ago and all. You can try and explain if you want. Most people may not listen though.
 
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WCA should acknowledge CCA as a national organization just like other organizations such as the Swedish and Danish national organizations. But only if they share and follow the same rules and core values of the WCA.

CCA are free to define their own rules and keep their own records, but I hope that they decide not to. I personally would not like to see multiple competing associations just as they have in professional boxing.
 
China Cube Association?

Fascinating!
Do tell more, I'm really curious about this.

What does the CCA entail?
What are the main differences between CCA and WCA?

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he has discussed with 3 organisers this afternoon. i only know that one organiser has refused. dunno whether the other two agree or not though

difference? delegates chosen by him; rules made by him. he is the organiser, the ruler, the delegate, the boss.

I find it interesting that in this thread, he says that the WCA is unfair and Chinese competitions need to have democracy for choosing WCA delegates.
 
I find it interesting that in this thread, he says that the WCA is unfair and Chinese competitions need to have democracy for choosing WCA delegates.

I find it interesting that you posted in this thread, when you could just have posted it in original thread :-)

I might be wrong, but isn't this the thread about the suspension of HaiYan, while the other thread is about HaiYan?
 
Oh my. How shocking.

I mistakenly thought it was Iril who did this, and I said something about it at a competition.
If I said that to you, my bad. D:

I know Iril personally, he is a silent man. He won't do that.
And I am so shocked to hear about this. Though I have heard rumors about Haiyan... I never thought he's gonna be banned or something.
Haiyan is a nice person also... as I know...
Well, let WCA continue the investigation.
 
China Cube Association?

Fascinating!
Do tell more, I'm really curious about this.

What does the CCA entail?
What are the main differences between CCA and WCA?

199s93.jpg


he has discussed with 3 organisers this afternoon. i only know that one organiser has refused. dunno whether the other two agree or not though

difference? delegates chosen by him; rules made by him. he is the organiser, the ruler, the delegate, the boss.

I find it interesting that in this thread, he says that the WCA is unfair and Chinese competitions need to have democracy for choosing WCA delegates.

And if Haiyan wasn't voted as a delegate, he would be saying that the WCA needs to choose delegates based on their BLD time. His motivation here is that he wants to be a delegate.

We don't choose delegates based on votes because someone being popular does not necessarily make them responsible.

"quite a few people dont believe Anders, Tyson, Ming Zheng, Chris Crueger, Danyang Chen etc. they have their "faith""

Yeah, this is always true. I wish people were simply logical, but many cubers still have "faith" over other issues as well. Not something I can change.
 
I guess the same thing could be said for Haiyan, that 'all' Chinese cubers know his personalities and blah blah.
meh
 
Update: Letter to IAC from the organiser of Hangzhou Open
Dear Anders Larsson,


We feel really sorry about not organizing Hangzhou Open well.


Here is what happened that day.


The schedule was published online in our BBS by Ming Zheng, the WCA delegate of this competition, before January 31 on which Hangzhou Open was hold. There was only one round in 3x3 BLD according to that schedule. It was our fault not to print it out and gave it to every competitor, and didn’t state clearly in the beginning of the competition. It was possible that Haiyan Zhuang didn’t see the schedule in the internet and kept thinking that there were two rounds in 3x3 BLD. Also, one of our workers told him that there was still one round when he asked after he finished first round.


In the afternoon, he was a little angry when he found there was no second round. He came to me and Xiaoping Liu, asking if we could add another round in 3x3 BLD. We discussed with Ming Zheng. First we decided to add one round if there were plant of time. Haiyan was told about this decision. However, time was not rich and Chris Krueger suggested that adding a round was not appropriate. So finally we didn’t add. Haiyan was really angry at that time and he took the microphone in the middle of the competition saying that it was not fair to him and that WCA delegates should be selected by vote but not by nomination. It was awkward at that time. In awarding ceremony, Haiyan said to us that he would tear up his award certificate. But he didn’t and claimed in public that he was sorry about interrupting the competition.


After that, in the following few days, Haiyan kept telling people how unfair he was and how Chris didn’t want him to break the record.


We can understand that he is eager for breaking up the record because he practiced very hard before competition. As organizers, we do want new records appear in our competition, but first we want our competition to be in good order.


If you have further questions, please let us know.
 
China Cube Association?

Fascinating!
Do tell more, I'm really curious about this.

What does the CCA entail?
What are the main differences between CCA and WCA?

199s93.jpg


he has discussed with 3 organisers this afternoon. i only know that one organiser has refused. dunno whether the other two agree or not though

difference? delegates chosen by him; rules made by him. he is the organiser, the ruler, the delegate, the boss.

I find it interesting that in this thread, he says that the WCA is unfair and Chinese competitions need to have democracy for choosing WCA delegates.

And if Haiyan wasn't voted as a delegate, he would be saying that the WCA needs to choose delegates based on their BLD time. His motivation here is that he wants to be a delegate.

We don't choose delegates based on votes because someone being popular does not necessarily make them responsible.

"quite a few people dont believe Anders, Tyson, Ming Zheng, Chris Crueger, Danyang Chen etc. they have their "faith""

Yeah, this is always true. I wish people were simply logical, but many cubers still have "faith" over other issues as well. Not something I can change.

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