In general, who has the advantage: Right or left-handed OH cubers?

[shadowslice e]

Because most people use lefty therefore the algs are better suited for lefty solvers, similar to how CROP has so much extensions to it and or subsets that can be added to it because it's the most popular method, and it's been developed more because of more people using it

It's easy enough to mirror the algs though.

Plus the algs are more suited to recognition with the right eye so ot basically evens out

 

[TDM]

Yes, you cannot really argue that right-handed OHers have fewer resources since you only need to mirror what's available. It's not like, for example, cross on D vs COL where there's a significant difference in how cases are fingertricked.

 

[MennoniteCuber1]

I am right handed and use right hand for OH. Been doing it for about half a year now.

 

[IAmAPerson]

I didn't realize that solving OH right handed was any harder….? I just do a z' and do all of my algs from there (the U-perm R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2 becomes U L' U L U L U L' U' L' U2). I can do essentially any algorithm like this. It's not hard for me. Sune becomes U L U' L U L2 U'.

I also solve OH using normal ZZ for left block, but a mirrored version of ZZ-LOL for right block (Line on Left).

 

[gewinnste]

Obviously left hand is better because most of the top OH cubers use left hand.
Just like fridrich is obviously the best method because so many people use that too.

Wrong. If you're right-handed (brain-wise) you are better with your right hand. Period.

The reason why most top OH cubers use their left hand (even though they are right-handed) is because they were too lazy to mirror algs that are more suited for the left hand (which are a lot and so it's conceivable that actually the whole community refrained from doing so. But that was a big mistake).

Had they taken the time to do that (mirroring) and gone for the right hand (if they're right-handed, obviously), they would have better times now and throughout and we would have better WRs.

Please flame on. It doesn't matter because my argument is theoretically irrefutable (obviously meaning it's practically irrefutable as well).

 

[TMarshall]

Wrong. If you're right-handed (brain-wise) you are better with your right hand. Period.

The reason why most top OH cubers use their left hand (even though they are right-handed) is because they were too lazy to mirror algs that are more suited for the left hand (which are a lot and so it's conceivable that actually the whole community refrained from doing so. But that was a big mistake).

Had they taken the time to do that (mirroring) and gone for the right hand (if they're right-handed, obviously), they would have better times now and throughout and we would have better WRs.

Please flame on. It doesn't matter because my argument is theoretically irrefutable (obviously meaning it's practically irrefutable as well).

Please give us evidence that a right hander will be better with their right hand. I've talked to people about this, and most of the time it's because they felt more comfortable with their left hand, not because of algorithms.

 

[GuRoux]

Please give us evidence that a right hander will be better with their right hand. I've talked to people about this, and most of the time it's because they felt more comfortable with their left hand, not because of algorithms.

really?! that's the opposite of my personal experience. being right handed, i chose to use my right hand since it was easier for me to turn the cube with it compared to with my left hand.

 

[sqAree]

I feel more comfortable with my left hand (even just when I started iirc). Ofc the fact that most cubers chose their left hand and I was too lazy to mirror algs also played its role, admittedly.
And I'm usually right-handed.

 

[YouCubing]

I use my right hand and I'm right-handed because that's what felt natural to me when I started. Now left-hand OH feels weird to me.

Also, I fingertrick my RUgen algs like this:
z'
Us = L fingertricks
Rs = U fingertricks

 

[ViliusRibinskas]

I think left-handed cuber has more advantage, especially for begginer oh solvers, bet maybe later it's the same

 

[Ordway Persyn]

I use my right hand because it's more dexterous. I really don't do OH that much but I could probably mirror my algs if I started getting into it.

 

[WACWCA]

Wrong. If you're right-handed (brain-wise) you are better with your right hand. Period.

The reason why most top OH cubers use their left hand (even though they are right-handed) is because they were too lazy to mirror algs that are more suited for the left hand (which are a lot and so it's conceivable that actually the whole community refrained from doing so. But that was a big mistake).

Had they taken the time to do that (mirroring) and gone for the right hand (if they're right-handed, obviously), they would have better times now and throughout and we would have better WRs.

Please flame on. It doesn't matter because my argument is theoretically irrefutable (obviously meaning it's practically irrefutable as well).

this is one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen. You are calling the fastest OH solvers LAZY? that makes absolutely no sense, they've spent countless hours practicing and improving, obviously if they thought righty was better they would use that
Until you can speak with some experience, you should be making no assumptions about them.
now dont get me wrong, i don't mind people who use righty, but your post just makes me angry

 

[b0ssGuy23]

I'm completely ambidextrous, so it really doesn't affect me. However, I prefer using my right hand for algorithms because more algorithms were better optimized for it. I get sub 1 times on both, but I'm around 15 seconds faster with my left. However, that's not me, it's just my practice time.

Just use the hand that you want, there is no real physical disadvantage holding you back.

 

[frogmanson]

Most QWERTY keyboard typists are more dexterous with their left hand. I suspect some of this dexterity translates into the popular choice of left hand OH cubing.

 

[gewinnste]

this is one of the stupidest posts I've ever seen. You are calling the fastest OH solvers LAZY? that makes absolutely no sense, they've spent countless hours practicing and improving, obviously if they thought righty was better they would use that
Until you can speak with some experience, you should be making no assumptions about them.
now dont get me wrong, i don't mind people who use righty, but your post just makes me angry

As said above and obviously: The cube is symmetric
This, plus the fact that the dexterity of hands is not = right-handed is better.

I don't even have to solve a cube 2H in under 2 min or at all to know that for a fact.

P.S. Most top cubers were high-school kids, when they started. They are usually impatient and they are usually not willing to thoroughly think through a principle. At this point in life, even the brightest kids are in a system of knowledge-absorption rather than generation.

 

[sqAree]

Are you sure that cubers in general are not willing to thoroughly think through a principle? ._.

 

[Kudz]

As said above and obviously: The cube is symmetric
This, plus the fact that the dexterity of hands is not = right-handed is better.

I don't even have to solve a cube 2H in under 2 min or at all to know that for a fact.

P.S. Most top cubers were high-school kids, when they started. They are usually impatient and they are usually not willing to thoroughly think through a principle. At this point in life, even the brightest kids are in a system of knowledge-absorption rather than generation.

I started doing OH with my right hand (dominant), but I switched. Why? I use CFOP this method is mainly about (F2L) RU and rotations.. While using tight hand, od have to think a bit more to do this pairs than while using left hand. Also I find it harder to lookahead, when cube is rotated.

LL algs where mainly gen to use RU+F/D/M moves, why would I'd like to relearn them, when I can do all my algs OH automatically after learning them 2HH(only with left). Maybe it's my laiziness, but I mind relearning few hundred algs...

This is really specific for me. I probably have less colagen in my hands, etc so I can move them unnaturally. Left hand got bigger ability for that (keyboard?) so using left hand is logical choice.

That should be obvious, but maybe not for you. Most ppl use left hand, just because it's easier to do RU with them. You also said we would get greater WRs. Well I don't think so. If child born left hand dominated, but parents thought it to write with right hand and do everything with right hand, it won't be great situation, but after some practice it will be doinga better using non-dominant hand. Same in cubing, practice matters not hand. If you can prove me that using right hand I would be second faster than I am using my left hand, I'll switch. Lefty got advantage of practice which matters most.

 

[Kit Clement]

It doesn't matter because my argument is theoretically irrefutable (obviously meaning it's practically irrefutable as well).

Your theory is irrefutable under the assumptions that you have made. Theory is only right in practice if your assumptions are correct, none of which you have proven to be true or have even given empirical evidence, other than state that people are generally right-hand dominant, which doesn't necessarily imply that one-handed cubing is an activity that relies on the dominant hand. Think about when you type on a keyboard, do you think your right hand is doing a better job of hitting keys than your left hand? Flicking a cube is not a particularly more taxing task on your hand than hitting a key, and like typing on a keyboard quickly, techniques for being quick at one-handed solving have to be learned on either hand (or both hands in the case of the keyboard).

In the case of either right or left hand, to maneuver a cube with one hand, you have to teach yourself how to manipulate the cube with one hand. It doesn't come naturally for either hand -- you have to learn pinky flicks, flicking with the back of your fingers, how to grip the cube, etc. Since you have to teach yourself these specific things, it's very plausible to think that the learning curve on either hand is the same or at least comparable, so why not take advantage of the large base of knowledge you already have from two-handed solving? Having been a righty OH solver who converted to lefty, I don't think the learning curve in terms of dexterity is any different for either of my hands. (yay sample size of 1)

I'm not saying that I'm right or wrong with my examples here, but you are making broad generalizing claims that go against the experiences of cubers who have tried OH with both hands and have developed resources based on the things they have learned and tried, and appear to have little experience in this yourself.

Also, thanks for bumping an old topic for the purposes of starting a flame war. You should probably drop the rude, flame-bait language here if you want to have a civil discussion and not face infractions.

 

[muchacho]

If child born left hand dominated, but parents thought it to write with right hand and do everything with right hand, it won't be great situation, but after some practice it will be doinga better using non-dominant hand. Same in cubing, practice matters not hand.

Forcing left handed children to write with the right hand is considered a bad thing, they won't probably achieve the same speed/dexterity at writting as if they were allowed to use their left hand.

But practice, algs and dominant eye are more important for cubing, so most people are right choosing to use their left. But if time is not an issue, algs can be learned, and one could learn LU algs for 2H also.

 

[Kudz]

Forcing left handed children to write with the right hand is considered a bad thing, they won't probably achieve the same speed/dexterity at writting as if they were allowed to use their left hand.

But practice, algs and dominant eye are more important for cubing, so most people are right choosing to use their left. But if time is not an issue, algs can be learned, and one could learn LU algs for 2H also.

Yes, but after some practice non-dominant hand will be faster from other one. Not potentially faster. The difference is too small.. I never said that it's a good thing, but sometimes it happens..
For me: right=left
This thread is something like, what would happen if i learn petrus before cfop. Pointless, just stop.