Now, how would those changes improve the forum or community discussion in general? I am not being sarcastic here, but quite serious.
The changes don't have to /improve/ the forum. As long as they're
not detrimental to the discussion the argument can be made that it is a perfectly valid rulechange.
If you want changes implemented, then try to be persuasive about how those changes would improve things. If you've already made posts arguing your stance, then I at least have not seen them. Provide a link, or type out your reasons in this thread. Simply saying that the admins won't agree would pretty much guarantee that the admins won't agree.
I haven't elaborated on them yet, but I will. You should know that I'm not on a crusade to have these changes implemented, simply that these are the changes I would make. I'm happy for them to stay as they are, too.
As to removing 1b: How would this improve (or not change) the quality of discussion on the forum as a whole? By as a whole, I mean for most people the change should be at least no worse than it is now. If this change were implemented I can see a new members being flamed with phrases like "f*ck your stupid thread. Eat sh*t and die you f*cking noob, gtfo"
People can be flamed just as powerfully without having to resort to being profane.
Alternatively, swearing doesn't have to be used as an attack. FRUR'U'F' is a Y-Perm, bitᴄhes!
We used to have a swearing filter on IRC too, but we removed it because it was fᴜcking annoying.
If you think I am exaggerating to the extreme with this comment then you are kidding yourself. Mods already delete posts that are very similar to this tone in flame threads on the forum.
I don't. Those should be deleted.
I don't see how this would improve the quality of discussion on this forum.
Sometimes I will type something out that contains banned words. Often I will have to paraphrase this into something else, as simply replacing the word doesn't seem to work. It's about expressing yourself.
However, anyone who abuses these words should have relevant action taken against them.
There is middle ground to be found, but there's no point in getting someone to waste time implementing something just so someone can say fᴜck.
I've sworn a few times in this post, and none of these uses were malicious. Language can be used responsibly.
As to removing rule 1c:
How does this improve the quality of discussion on the forum (or at least not make it worse than it is now)? I can understand the counterpoint that this is information that people discuss anyway, so why not allow it on the forum here?
The improvement should be obvious. Ability to freely discuss all types of cube make.
However, what about sponsors who donate to speedsolving.com? It costs money to run this site, and even if the quality of discussion is improved by allowing people to discuss knock-offs, this will mean that members would need to donate more money to offset any lost income from advertisements and sponsors who do not wish to advertise their products on a site that promotes (or does not dissuade) knock-off producers. If you would be willing to host a quarterly or semi-annual fund-drive to help offset any lost income, then I imagine the admins would be more receptive to your idea.
As far as I know, VCubes don't advertise on this site. (idk, I use adblock) KO discussion wouldn't hurt advertising. Why would Lightake be annoyed that people were discussing knock offs? They sell them! Also, since the whole Guhong vs V Cubes fiasco went down I think the KO thing is much less of an issue these days.
Don't be so defeatist. If an idea is important to you, then come up with a solution for how to implement that idea. Start by presenting that solution to the admins, if nothing else. It's better than just accepting the fact that the "Admins won't agree."
Honestly, it's not that important to me. If I had the power to make those changes myself, I would - but I'm not going to make the effort to force someone to make a decision that they do not wish to make.
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