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x2y' L2 D' F L D'
y F2 U' L' U L2 F' L'
y U L' U L F' L'
y' R U2 R' U' R U' R U2 R' U' R
R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R'
y' U-perm U2

(47), I'm no Johannes in fast linear solving.

from the highlighted part your solve goes wrong i think. i have 2 'f2l' pairs in, but when i do that move i loose one. but i can't really find the good way to do it.

Hrm, probably is an L2 instead of L. By the way, I don't use pairs in this solution.
 
x2y' L2 D' F L D'
y F2 U' L' U L2 F' L'
y U L' U L2 F' L'
y' R U2 R' U' R U' R U2 R' U' R
R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R'
y' U-perm U2

yes the L2 works. is this a petrus solve?


Scramble: U2 B2 R D L2 B’ R’ F D’ B2 R2 F’ D F2 D’ L’ R2 F’ D2 L B F2 D’ L’ R2
cross: u R' y R B' R2 D' (6)
1st pair: U2 R U' R2 U R (6)
2nd pair: u L' U L u' (5)
3rd pair: U R U R' (4)
4th pair: y' L' U L y' U2 R U R' (7)

f2L: 28

OLL: U R' U' y' R' U R B (7)

lol and i just realised its Pll skip hahaha

whole solve move count = 28 + 7 = 35
nice 2nd pair solving. and a nice pll skip :D. do you always use that alg for your OLL? i use B'(U'R'UR)B. i tried my OLL alg, and that gives me an PLL skip too. only need a U turn as 'PLL'.
edit: :) i now see that your alg is actually the same as mine, only performed a bit different
 
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Cross F' U' R' F L' B L
F2L 1: U2 L' U L
F2L 2: U' R U' R' U2 R' U R
F2L 3: U' R U' R' U' y L' U L
F2L 4:y R U R' U' R U R'
OLL: F R U R' U' F'
PLL: U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L
 
cross x2 U F' L B' L2 U' x2 (6)
pair 1 U2 L U' L2 U L (6)
pair 2 D y' L' U L D' (5)
pair 3 U y' R U R' (4)
pair 4 y R' U R U2 y R U R' (7)
OLL f' L' U' L U f (6)
PLL U (1)
35 moves
 
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Cross y F' U' R' F L' B L
F2L 1: U2 L' U L
F2L 2: U' R U' R' U2 R' U R
F2L 3: U' R U' R' U' y L' U L
F2L 4:y R U R' U' R U R'
OLL: U F R U R' U' F'
PLL: U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R L U'

nice solve, but i think these moves need to be added.


cross x2 U F' L B' L2 U' x2 (6)
pair 1 U2 L U' L2 U L (6)
pair 2 D y' L' U L D' (5)
pair 3 U y' R U R' (4)
pair 4 y R' U R U2 y R U R' (7)
OLL f' L' U' L U f (6)
PLL U (1)
35 moves

good solve malcolm. only your y2 from your cross needs to be x2. and another PLL skip, nice. it's the same OLL as the solve of joshuali. i think it's also almost the same solve.
 
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it's the same OLL as the solve of joshuali. i think it's also almost the same solve.
Yeah, there's only a very small difference in LL. Both solves in basic UDFBRL notation:

D B' L F' L2 U2 D' L U' L2 U L D B' U B U D' L U L' F' U F U2 R U R' U R' U' F' U F R
D B' L F' L2 U2 D' L U' L2 U L D B' U B U D' L U L' F' U F U2 R U R' B' U' R' U R B U
 
Yeah, I saw his after mine, and thought hey, thats the same =X only difference is he did the U for PLL before OLL, and I did it afterwards. Fixed the mistake, thankyou. Can we have another scramble? I like this stuff
 
first make a cross then put the corners on the right place then do the second layer then 3rd layer then 4th-5th layer......:) that's what i will do so far
 
first make a cross then put the corners on the right place then do the second layer then 3rd layer then 4th-5th layer......:) that's what i will do so far

What 4th and 5th layer???? and anyway you're meant to explain what moves you do, also BTW matijn_cube I think I may of forgot to put z,x or y in my cross. >.< oh well.
 
also BTW matijn_cube I think I may of forgot to put z,x or y in my cross. >.< oh well.

do you know wich one? i like to do your solve.


Yeah, I saw his after mine, and thought hey, thats the same =X only difference is he did the U for PLL before OLL, and I did it afterwards. Fixed the mistake, thankyou. Can we have another scramble? I like this stuff

i don't know if i should post a new scramble in this topic or make a new topic.
 
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*****ok second scramble for the ones who like to do another one*****
scramble with your cross color on bottom

this is how i solved it. bit lucky with the cross and pairs.

U B2 L B2 R2 B2 R' D2 L' U' L' B L B D L2 U L2 B2 L B' R' F D2 F

Cross: y2 B (U F D’ L D’ F) (7)
1st: y’ L’ U L (3)
2nd: RUR’y U’ R U’ R’ (7)
3rd: U’ L’ U’ L y RU’R’ (7)
4th: U L U L’ U L U’ L’ (8)

F2L: 32

OLL: y’ F’ r U R’ U’ r’ F R (8)
PLL: y M2U’ M’U2M2U2M’ UM2 (9)
Total: 49

Did the B move to save the pair(didn’t really know if it would help, but I tried.) And it gave me a second pair solved to. So that saved some moves.
And I got an OLL I new, that saved some moves too.
 
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*****ok second scramble for the ones who like to do another one*****

U B2 L B2 R2 B2 R' D2 L' U' L' B L B D L2 U L2 B2 L B' R' F D2 F

OK, this is my solve. I haven't tried to optimise it, or look up algs where I didn't know them. This is just how I'd solve the cube if someone handed me one in the state described above.

Cross: D' L2 R D' F

Corner/Edge Pairs:
U2 B' U B
R U' R' B U B'
U2 R U2 R' F' U2 F
U L' U' L U F U F'
Giving a F2L (HTM) move count of 30. Not my best, but certainly not my worst. (My actual solve would probably have some rotations in there, but I wrote it out like that for simplicity.)

OLL:
R U B U' B' R' y' R' F' L F R F' L' F
As you can see, I use a 2LOLL, in this case it was 14 moves.

PLL:
U2 L U2 L' U' L U2 R' U L' U' R
Yay, J-Perm - my favorite. 12 moves there.

So that's a 56 move solve there. Not too bad. I'm usually pretty happy with anything below 60 moves, considering that I only know the cross OLLs, and about half the PLLs.
 
PLL: y M2U’ M’U2M2U2M’ UM2 (9)
Total: 49
If we're counting in HTM, that PLL is 14 moves, bringing your total up to 54 moves.

yeah i useally count U2 and M2 as one move. so that would be STM right? i don't really know what the 'real' movecount is. stm or Htm. i mean the one that is used for counting solves.
 
U B2 L B2 R2 B2 R' D2 L' U' L' B L B D L2 U L2 B2 L B' R' F D2 F

D2 R d L U2 L
y2 z U2 R' y' R U2 B R2' U' R L U' L'
x'y' R' U R U' R2 U R U' R U2 R' U' R U R'

(33) :(

I would've used 58 moves including the LL, but that's ugly enough.
 
U B2 L B2 R2 B2 R' D2 L' U' L' B L B D L2 U L2 B2 L B' R' F D2 F

Cross: B D' R L2 u'
Slot 1: U2 y' L U L'
Slot 2: d' L' U L
Slot 3: U2 L U L' U L U' L'
Slot 4: U2 y' R' U2 R U' R' U R

F2L move count: 28

OLL: U' R' U' R' F R F' U R
PLL: U'

Total: 38

I got 13.98 on this scramble. :D
 
*****ok second scramble for the ones who like to do another one*****

U B2 L B2 R2 B2 R' D2 L' U' L' B L B D L2 U L2 B2 L B' R' F D2 F

OLL:
R U B U' B' R' y' R' F' L F R F' L' F
As you can see, I use a 2LOLL, in this case it was 14 moves.

PLL:
U2 L U2 L' U' L U2 R' U L' U' R
Yay, J-Perm - my favorite. 12 moves there.

can't really get your OLL to work..


U B2 L B2 R2 B2 R' D2 L' U' L' B L B D L2 U L2 B2 L B' R' F D2 F

D2 R d L U2 L
y2 z U2 R' y' R U2 B R2' U' R L U' L'
x'y' R' U R U' R2 U R U' R U2 R' U' R U R'

(33) :(

I would've used 58 moves including the LL, but that's ugly enough.

what is normally your average move count then? 58 total isn't that bad right? i don't really know what method you use. some sort of petrus? after what you wrote down i have 2 'f2l' and 2 edges done.

I got 13.98 on this scramble. :D

wow very good solve. does this actually count as an PLL skip? can't really call U' as a PLL right? but really nice f2l, can't get much better i think.
 
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