How would you solve this scramble?

[dChan]

Ugh. I think I found it through a link on Speedcubing.com's Links page. I am pretty sure I saw it there.

EDIT: I believe his site ahs been destroyed by nefarious aliens. Sorry.

 

[martijn_cube]

what do you call 'f2l tricks' dchan?

 

[dChan]

@martijn_cube: Extended cross/ block-building, empty slot usage, and a little bit of LL orientation control. It is basically Macky-style F2L although I found out about extended cross of Chris Hardwick's page, learned to use block-building from Petrus, figured out empty-slot usage from Joel's guide to Keyhole F2L(it is a great jumping off point for learning empty slotting), and LL orientation control from a stint with ZBF2L. Of course I learned some of the more advanced LL control techniques from Macky's site so he does deserve credit.

There are probably more tricks that I don't know of but that's what I use. Check out Macky's site and Chris Hardwick's page for some good guides on this kind of stuff.

 

[martijn_cube]

ok thanks. i see that i still can learn alot more

 

[Dirk BerGuRK]

U2 B2 R D L2 B’ R’ F D’ B2 R2 F’ D F2 D’ L’ R2 F’ D2 L B F2 D’ L’ R2

1) (u) R2 F U' r2 F (r') U2 r U' (r)
2) r' U' r' U' R' U' (R' M') U2 (r2 R) U' R
3) U' L' U2 L U L' U L2 U' R' U L' U' R
4) U M' U' M U' M2 U M' U2 M2 U2 M

stm=47

 

[martijn_cube]

hoe do you do that solve? if i do all the moves i end up with a scambled cube? what do you do with the moves between the ()?

 

[Dirk BerGuRK]

The way I posted that is kind of confusing. (r), (u), and (f) notation is another way to write x, y, and z notation. Maybe this is easier...

1) y R2 F U' r2 F x' U2 r U' x
2) r' U' r' U' R' U' R' M' U2 r2 R U' R
3) U' L' U2 L U L' U L2 U' R' U L' U' R
4) U M' U' M U' M2 U M' U2 M2 U2 M

I hope that is correct. I always get confused when using x, y, and z notation. The other parentheses meant that those moves were performed simultaneously.

 

[martijn_cube]

wow nice solve. roux method. and if you know what (r) means it is easier than x. so now i know .

 

[*LukeMayn*]

mine would be
cross: R' D' y2 F R2' U' F2 R (X-cross) (8)
F2L
2. d R U2 R' U' L U L' U L' U' L (11)
3. U' L' U L y' R' U' R U' F' U F (11)
4.U R' U2 R U2 y R U2 R' U R U' R' (12)
OLL:y R U2 R2 U' R U' R' U2 F R F' (11)
PLL: U l' U R' D2 R U' R' D2 R2 (10)
I need to get some alg F2L for joint pairs but incorectly joint. I didn't count whole cube rotations as a move.

 

[martijn_cube]

could you review your cross? i can't seem to get i to work.

 

[Erik]

U2 B2 R D L2 B’ R’ F D’ B2 R2 F’ D F2 D’ L’ R2 F’ D2 L B F2 D’ L’ R2
cross:
LuL'R' y R'u' (6)
F2L:
1. u'RUR'DU' (6) (yes I know it would cancel one move doing u2 but I wouldn't do it like that)
2/3. L'ULRUR'U2L'UL (10)
4. y' L'U2LU'L'UL (7)
LL: RU2R2U'FRDR2D'F'R'UR (13)
total: 42 (time: 9.03)
sorry about the 1 look LL and the semi-multislotter it's not very usual, but this was a nice one

 

[martijn_cube]

wow very nice solve erik. i like your 'u' using. like your first cross piece and your first f2l pair. how many 1LL algs do you use? also very nice time

 

[Erik]

Haha normally I hate u moves but lately I've been using them more. I don't know many 1 LLL algs, just trivial ones like flipping some stuff only or a J perm with 2 flipped edges etc, and about 75% of ELL

 

[martijn_cube]

what is more usefull to learn, ELL or CLL?

 

[Swordsman Kirby]

Learn both!

x2y' L2 D' F L D'
y F2 U' L' U L2 F' L'
y U L' U L F' L'
y' R U2 R' U' R U' R U2 R' U' R
R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R'
y' U-perm U2

(47), I'm no Johannes in fast linear solving.

 

[Cerberus]

Cross: D B’ L F’ L2 D’ (6) (same^^)
f2l:
#1: U2 L2 F' L2' F (5)
#2: y U' R U R' U2 R U R' (8)
#3: D2 R' U' R D2 (5) (MUCH luck that I saw it)
#4: y' U' R U' R' U' F' R F (8)
32 moves so far
OLL: U' R U R' U R U2 R' (8)
PLL: y2 R' U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F' R2 U' (14)
so i end up with 54

alternate if I would not have seen the keyhole:
Cross: D B’ L F’ L2 D’ (6) (same^^)
f2l:
#1: U2 L2 F' L2' F (5)
#2: y U' R U R' U2 R U R' (8)
#3: R' U2 L' U' L U2 L' U L (9) (just all intuitive :-S)
#4: U' R' U' R U2 R U' R (8)
36 moves
OLL: U F U R U' R' F' + U R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R' (17) (2-look)
PLL: y R2 u' R U' R U R' u R2 y R U' R (12)

so I got 65 in total

 

[martijn_cube]

Cross: D B’ L F’ L2 D’ (6) (same^^)
f2l:
#1: U2 L2 F' L2' F (5)
#2: y U' R U R' U2 R U R' (8)
#3: D2 R' U' R D2 (5) (MUCH luck that I saw it)
#4: y' U' R U' R' U' F' R F (8)
32 moves so far
OLL: U' R U R' U R U2 R' (8)
PLL: y2 R' U2 R U2 R' F R U R' U' R' F' R2 U' (14)
so i end up with 54

nice solve. i like your first and 3rd pair. totally different then my usual. good stuff to learn from. that 3rd pair, never new to use that emty slot like that, but it can be very usefull.

Learn both!

x2y' L2 D' F L D'
y F2 U' L' U L2 F' L'
y U L' U L F' L'
y' R U2 R' U' R U' R U2 R' U' R
R2 D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R'
y' U-perm U2

(47), I'm no Johannes in fast linear solving.

from the highlighted part your solve goes wrong i think. i have 2 'f2l' pairs in, but when i do that move i loose one. but i can't really find the good way to do it.

 

[Sin-H]

U2 B2 R D L2 B’ R’ F D’ B2 R2 F’ D F2 D’ L’ R2 F’ D2 L B F2 D’ L’ R2

Cross: y D R' B L' B2 D' (6)
1st/2nd pair: y R' U2 R y U' L' U L R U R' (10)
3rd pair: D' R' U' R D (5)
4th pair: y R U' R' U R U R' (7)
OLL: y' R U R' U' R U' R' F' U' F R U R' (13)
PLL: U' L' U2 L U L' U2 R U' L U R' (12)

so it would be 53 moves...

 

[martijn_cube]

nice solve. nice 1st/2nd and again i see this way of solving the third pair, i have to remember that one. ow and your PLL alg insn't right.

 

[joshuali]

Scramble: U2 B2 R D L2 B’ R’ F D’ B2 R2 F’ D F2 D’ L’ R2 F’ D2 L B F2 D’ L’ R2
cross: u R' y R B' R2 D' (6)
1st pair: U2 R U' R2 U R (6)
2nd pair: u L' U L u' (5)
3rd pair: U R U R' (4)
4th pair: y' L' U L y' U2 R U R' (7)

f2L: 28

OLL: U R' U' y' R' U R B (7)

lol and i just realised its Pll skip hahaha

whole solve move count = 28 + 7 = 35