How to "set up" OLLs?

[MusicalPulse]

Hey everyone!

I'm pretty new to the community. I've recently finished memorizing PLLs and started working on the OLLs. One of the main "problems" I've had so far is "setting up" the scenarios.

In PLL, you can set up the real PLL scenario by doing the alg from a solved state, or in other cases, doing the mirrored alg. (Ua, Ub) In OLL, doing the alg usually gives you a completely different scenario (amirite?) So my question is, is there a way to purposely set up the OLL case for practice? Sure you could just do the alg backwards or something, but is there a way to set it up...while benefiting the memorization of algs?

I ask this because I think setting up the real case helps in real solves. (For me at least.) Doing the alg over and over, but with nothing registering in my eyes/head, I don't really develop recognition/experience for the case.

Thanks!

 

[CRO]

Do inverses, or learn them in pairs (which oll generates which oll from solved state)

 

[avgdi]

Do the alg a few more times.

 

[Cubenovice]

Just keep repeating the alg on a solved cube:
- trains muscle memory
- it will rerurn to solved: before the last repetition you'll have it set-up
- if you look at the cube while doning this you'll also find some relations between algs (I found OLL 49 and 50 in this way)

 

[Cheese11]

So would the same thing work for CMLL?

 

[PandaCuber]

So would the same thing work for CMLL?

It will work on some. It usually shoots you to another figure.

 

[Cube Equation]

When I learned COLL, I used commutators to affect the orientation cases that I would get. I suppose this would also apply to OLL.

 

[bigbee99]

I'm pretty sure there was a tool or software for this, I'll look for it...

 

[wontolla]

Prisma Puzzle Timer has a category for practicing PLLs and OLLs. It gives you scrambles that generate a random case. If you don't want to practice all OLLs, you can copy and paste the cases you are practicing to a text file and then open it with the timer.

Those scrambles are long though. So what I did is to generate 11-move scrables using cube explorer for the OLLs I didn't know. Another advantage of this is that, for the same OLL, you can get several different scrambles so you don't end up "learning" the scramble and guessing the OLL case that will come up. (I use to practice recognition as well, so the OLL is generated on the down layer of the cube and I time myself recognition and execution.

I can post the files I've got if you want, but they are only for the OLLs I'm currently learning. L-shapes, lightning bolts and others.

 

[Niki_Petrov]

This is a copy from site of Dan Harris....


Case #01
Do F R' F' R U R2 B' R' B U' R' to set-up
• R U (x') U' R U l' R' U' l' U l F'
• R U2' R2' F R F' U2 R' F R F'

Case #02
Do R U2 R2 F R F' U2 R' F R F' U2 to set-up
• F R U R' U' F' f R U R' U' f'
• (y) l U' R' U F2 R U' R' U2 F2 U'
• (y2 x) U R' U' R B2' U R' U' R2 B2' R'

Case #03
Do L' R B' L U2 L' B' R B' R2 L U to set-up
• (y') r' R2 U R' U r U2 r' U R' r
• L U2' (x) L U' L' U (y') L U L U' L F'

Case #04
Do R L' B R' U2 R B L' B L2 R' U' to set-up
• (y) r' R U' r U2 r' U' R U' R2' r
• R' U2 (x) R' U R U' (y) R' U' R' U R' F

Case #05
Do R' F' U2 F2 U R U' R' F' U2 R U2 to set-up
• (y2) r' R U R U R' U' r R2' F R F'
• (y2) l' U2' L U L' U l2 U2' L' U' L U' l'
• R U2' B' R' U' R U (y) R2 (z) R2 (z'x) R' U'
• U2 R' U2 F R U R' U' F2 U2 F R

Case #06
Do F R' F' R U2 R d' R U' R' F' to set-up
• (y2) l' U' L U' L' U2' l2 U L' U L U2' l'
• F R U R' d R' U2 R' F R F'
• F R U R' U (y') R' U2 l' U l F'

Case #07 - "3"
Do F R' F' R U2 F R' F' R U' R U' R' U' to set-up
• (y) R U R' U R' F R F' U2 R' F R F'
• R' F R (y') R' U2 R' d R' U R B

Case #08
Do B' R B U2 R' U' R U' R2 U2 R to set-up
R' U2 R2 U R' U R U2 (x') U' R' U

Case #09
Do B' R' U' R d' R U R' U R to set-up
• R' U' R U' R' d R' U R B
R U R' U R d' R U' R' F'

Case #10
Do F R U R' U' R U R' U' F' U to set-up
• (y) f R U R' U' R U R' U' f'
• (y') F U R U' R' U R U' R' F'
L d R U' R' U R U' R' F'

Case #11
Do L' B' L R' U' R U R' U' R U L' B L to set-up
• L' B' L U' R' U R U' R' U R L' B L
F R U R' U' R (y') R' F R B' R' F'

Case #12
Do F U R U' R' U R U' R' F' to set-up
F R U R' U' R U R' U' F'

Case #13
Do F' U' L' U L U' L' U L F to set-up
F' L' U' L U L' U' L U F

Case #14
Do R B' R' B U2 R2 F R F' R to set-up
• l' U R' U' R l (U2 x') U' R U l'

Case #15
Do B' R B R' y' d2 R2 B' R' B R' to set-up
• l U' R U R' l' U2 F R' F' R
R B' R B R2' d2 (y) R B' R' B

Case #16
Do r' U2 R U R' U' R U R' U r to set-up
r' U' R U' R' U R U' R' U2 r

Case #17
Do r U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U' r' to set-up
r U R' U R U' R' U R U2' r'

Case #18
Do to set-up
R' U' R (y'x') R U' R' F R U l'

Case #19
Do to set-up
R U R' (xz') R' U R B' R' U' l

Case #20
Do L F R' F R F2 L' U' to set-up
• (y) r U2 R' U' R U' r'
• (y2) r' R U' R U2 R' U' R U' R' r R'
(x') D R2 U' R' U R' D'

Case #21
Do R' F' L F' L' F2 R U' to set-up
• (y) l' U2 L U L' U l
• (y2) r R' U R' U2 R U R' U R r' R
B' R2' F R F' R B

Case #22
Do F R2 B' R' B R' F' to set-up
• (y) r U R' U R U2 r'
(x') D R U' R U R2' D'

Case #23
Do B' R2 F R F' R B to set-up
• (y) l' U' L U' L' U2' l
B' R' F R' F' R2 B

Case #24
Do r R' U R' U2 R U R' U R2 r' U2 to set-up
• (y2) r R2' U' R U' R' U2 R U' R r'
r' U' R U' l U' R' U l' U2' r

Case #25
Do r' R U' R U2 R' U' R U' R2 r U2 to set-up
• (y2) r' R2 U R' U R U2 R' U R' r
r U R' U l' U R U' l U2 r'

Case #26
Do F U F' R' F R U' R' F' R to set-up
R' F R U l' U' l (y') R U' R'

Case #27
Do F' U' F L F' L' U L F L' U2 to set-up
(x') R U' R' F' R U R' (x y) R' U R

Case #28
Do L F L' U R U' R' L F' L' to set-up
L F L' R U R' U' L F' L'

Case #29
Do L' B' L U' R' U R L' B L to set-up
L' B' L R' U' R U L' B L

Case #30 - "5"
Do r' R U R U R' U' r2 R2' U R U' r' to set-up
r' R U R U R' U' r2 R2' U R U' r'

Case #31
Do R' U2 l U' R U R' l' U2 R to set-up
R' U2 l R U' R' U l' U2' R

Case #32
Do F R U' R' U R U R' F' U' to set-up
• (y) F R U' R' U' R U R' F'
(y x) U R' U' l U R U' R'

Case #33
Do F R' F' R U R U R' U' R U' R' U' to set-up
• (y) R U R' U R U' R' U' R' F R F'
F R U R2' U' (y') R' U R B R'

Case #34
Do B' R B R' U' R' U' R U R' U R to set-up
R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' R' U

Case #35
Do R B' R' U' R d L d' R' to set-up
• (y x') U' R U l' U' R' U' R U R' U R
• R d L' d' R' U R B R'
(y2) L d R' d' L' U L F L'

Case #36
Do R' F R U R' d' L' d R to set-up
• (y' x) U R' U' l U R U R' U' R U' R'

Case #37
Do F R U R' U' F' U' to set-up
• (y) F U R U' R' F'
• (y') f R U R' U' f'
R d L U' L' B'

Case #38
Do F' L' U' L U F U to set-up
• (y') F' U' L' U L F
• (y) f' L' U' L U f
L' d' R' U R B

Case #39
Do B2 R' U R U' R' U' R2 B R' B to set-up
B' R B' R2' U R U R' U' R B2

Case #40
Do l U' l' U' R2 U R' B R U' R2 to set-up
R2' U R' B' R U' R2' U l U l'

Case #41
Do F U R U R' y' U' R' U2 R U R' U2 to set-up
• (y') R U2' R' U' R U' R2 (y) L' U' L U F
Case #42
Do B' U' R' U' R y U R U2 R' U' R to set-up
• (y') R' U2 R U R' U R2 (y) R U R' U' F'
R' U R U2' R' U' (y') R' U R U B

Case #43
Do R' U' F U R U' R' F' R to set-up
R' F R U R' U' F' U R

Case #44
Do L U F' U' L' U L F L' U2 to set-up
• (y2) L F' L' U' L U F U' L'
R B' R' U' R U (y) R U' F'

Case #45
Do R U B' R B R' U' R' to set-up
• R' U' l' U l F' U R
R U (x') R U' R' U (x) U' R'

Case #46
Do B' F R' F' R B U R U' R' to set-up
R U R' U' (x) D' R' U R E'

Case #47
Do F U R U' R' F' to set-up
F R U R' U' F'

Case #48
Do F R U' R' U' R U R' F' to set-up
• R U R' U' R' F R F'
F R U' R' U R U R' F'

Case #49 - "The Wheel"
Do R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R2 U2 R to set-up
R U2' R2' U' R2 U' R2' U2 R

Case #50
Do R U R' U R U' R' U R U2' R' to set-up
• (y) R U2 R' U' R U R' U' R U' R'
• R U R' U R U' R' U R U2' R'
(y) F R U R' U' R U R' U' R U R' U'

Case #51 - "Sune"
Do R U2 R' U' R U' R' to set-up
• R U R' U R U2' R'
• (y') R' U2 R U R' U R
• (y2) L U L' U L' U2' L'
(y) L' U2' L U L' U L

Case #52 - "Anti-Sune"
Do R U R' U R U2 R' to set-up
• R U2 R' U' R U' R'
• (y') R' U' R U' R' U2 R
• (y2) L U2' L' U' L U' L'
(y) L' U' L U' L' U2' L

Case #53
Do F R' F' R L' U R U' R' L to set-up
• R U R' U' r R' U R U' r'
L' R U R' U' L R' F R F'

Case #54
Do R U R' U' r R' U R U' r' to set-up
• (y2) r R' U R r' U2 r R' U R r'
F R' F' R L' U R U' R' L

Case #55 - "Superman"
Do R U2 R D R' U2 R D' R2 to set-up
• R2' D R' U2 R D' R' U2 R'
(y2) R' U' R U' R' U2 R2 U R' U R U2' R'

Case #56
Do R' F' L' F R F' L F to set-up
• l' U' L U R U' r' F
(y') R U2 R' U' R U' R2 U2 R U R' U R

Case #57 - "Bowtie"
Do R' F' L F R F' L' F to set-up
• l' U' L' U R U' L U (x')
(y2) R' F R B' R' F' R B

GOOD LUCK!!!

 

[Godmil]

It's a waste of time doing scrambles or inverting the alg (unless that's another OLL) doing it over and over (or learning inverse pairs) is by far the most efficient method. Just don't concentrate on looking at the cube until you've got the correct setup.