how long to get sub 30?

[Cride5]

What if there's a ZZ, Petrus, Roux user asking to be sub-30 too....you can't just shut them out just because you don't use roux. It's a lot better for them to at least grab some info from a thread like this and not make one that's not really as needed.

For all intents and purposes, can we just assume Fridrich for everyone?

no. If you can't cope with the fact that there are also non-Fridrich users
, then you still have a lot to learn about cubing and you shouldn't give general advice.

++1 ... I think that the popularity of Fridrich has a lot to do with its natural progression from LBL and its ease of learning. To quote a conversation I had with someone on youtube...
"...im stuck o eoline ... I think ill just use fridrich..."

Personally, I'm really enjoying the challenges and discoveries involved in using a relatively new, non-proven method. However, its not for everyone. Some folks just want to get fast (and quickly) which is perfectly understandable.

I do wish though, that more Fridrich users would acknowledge the alternative methods and drop the automatic assumption that more popular = faster!

 

[sarank14]

just practice. i think it took me about 4 or 5 months to get to sub 30

 

[Innocence]

You must have a much faster LL than me(Which I rarely practise) because my cross+f2l is usually under 20 seconds, unless it's a really off solve. Practise f2l until you have sub-20, it's not hard to get when you look ahead.

(Wow, I've diagnosed my own problem, being barely sup-30. Thanks!)

 

[miniGOINGS]

What if there's a ZZ, Petrus, Roux user asking to be sub-30 too....you can't just shut them out just because you don't use roux. It's a lot better for them to at least grab some info from a thread like this and not make one that's not really as needed.

For all intents and purposes, can we just assume Fridrich for everyone?

no. If you can't cope with the fact that there are also non-Fridrich users
, then you still have a lot to learn about cubing and you shouldn't give general advice.

++1 ... I think that the popularity of Fridrich has a lot to do with its natural progression from LBL and its ease of learning. To quote a conversation I had with someone on youtube...
"...im stuck o eoline ... I think ill just use fridrich..."

Personally, I'm really enjoying the challenges and discoveries involved in using a relatively new, non-proven method. However, its not for everyone. Some folks just want to get fast (and quickly) which is perfectly understandable.

I do wish though, that more Fridrich users would acknowledge the alternative methods and drop the automatic assumption that more popular = faster!

Little side story, I taught my friend CF (D corners, U corners, 3 R edges, 3 L edges, L & R edges, EO, M edges) and he was sub-1 in a few days. I taught him CF instead of LBL because he wanted to progress to Roux or Waterman, in which CF was the logical first step.

It makes sense that most people use Fridrich because it is a step up from LBL, which is the most common beginner method.

 

[rob558]

it took me about 2 weeks from were you are

 

[Truncator]

It took me about six months to get sub-30, but it can be much faster depending on not only how long you practice, but how you practice.

Unrelated note, but miniGOINGS, how is your average of 5 faster than your non-lucky single?

 

[miniGOINGS]

It took me about six months to get sub-30, but it can be much faster depending on not only how long you practice, but how you practice.

Unrelated note, but miniGOINGS, how is your average of 5 faster than your non-lucky single?

4 of the 5 solves were lucky, the fastest of them was a CMLL skip. The A12 has 6 or 8 lucky solves, but I'm only sub-25 now.

EDIT: 5 lucky solves, all of them sub-18

 

[cubekid57]

Sub 30 is a hard barrier to break, you are transitioning form a begginer speedcuber to a more advance speedcuber. You have to start learning more algs and practicing your turnspeed and f2l. MOst of all, practice, practice, practice!